Bar Complaint Against Former Lawyer Picazio Filed By Crystal Sheffiel

[elle1919]

do you mean the custody hearing elle?

Hi Pondering, no, I am looking for any information about the hearing that was supposed to take place after Haleigh went missing. I understand that Ronald and Crystal had been served subpoena's to appear at the hearing and I am trying to find out when they were served on them. If you have any idea where I could find that I would really appreciate reading into it. I am looking as we speak though and I will post anything I find as long as i am not breaking any rules.

 

[elle1919]

Okay I found this Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #7

posted here back when Haleigh didn't have her own forum yet. I am still reading it but wanted to post in case anyone else wanted to read it as well.

ETA...last record from court

snip from post at link~2009-02-10
055.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30 ~end snip

 

[atherella]

Can anyone direct me to where I might find information about the motion filed by the State of Florida and when Ronald and Crystal received their subpoena's for that hearing?

Those are two shots of the paperwork. The first shows the paperwork was filed on February 3rd. The 2nd one shows that there is someone representing the Department of Revenue. (The DOR is the one that filed the Motion for Contempt. In FL, the DOR is the agency responsible for collecting Child Support).

There is also this:

A motion was filed by the state's Department of Revenue on Ronald Cummings' behalf against Sheffield for contempt. It was dated February 3rd, a week before Haleigh disappeared.

A hearing was set for Sheffield for March 27.

Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, told First Coast News he received a copy of the document about the hearing the day before Haleigh vanished. Cummings appeared frustrated about the timing of the document's arrival and his daughter's disappearance.

Sheffield's mother, Marie Griffis, said her daughter did not want to discuss the issue.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132134&catid=3

 

[Pondering Mind]

yeah i get that .. my post is just basically my opinion that neither parent really did what they shouldve for haleigh .. ron had her in his home yes supported her yes but there is much more to be a parent than that .. they both seem to have failed her .. i think the grandmas are the true caregivers for haleigh no crystal didnt pay support or get off drugs((which i dont know for an absolute fact i wasnt there ))however court records show crystal was ordered to pay and didnt .. while ron didnt stop his lifestyle for his kids .((police reports show he didnt stop that type of lifestyle )

bbm~
That is So True zadari! and I too believe that most everything was left up to the grandmothers, as happens all too often these days.

Thing is though I don't believe that any drug use played into HaLeighs disappearance tho. (unless as I've stated before, it had to do with state of mind due to drug use, which would be a very likely possibility imo ) What a sad state of affairs for poor HaLeigh, who's disappearance, IMHO has somehow gotten lost in this battle of who's the worst OR better parent. She deserves so much more and I beginning to believe they are ALL letting her down ....again. That fact really has me worried about Jr's future, I tell you that much!

 

[elle1919]

Those are two shots of the paperwork. The first shows the paperwork was filed on February 3rd. The 2nd one shows that there is someone representing the Department of Revenue. (The DOR is the one that filed the Motion for Contempt. In FL, the DOR is the agency responsible for collecting Child Support).

There is also this:


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=132134&catid=3

Thank you ath, your post seems to represent that it was the Department of Revenue that was filing for contempt. I found an old post by Leila in the thread and posted it above. It says the same thing that there was a hearing scheduled for March.

I apologize for the off topic because this might not have anything to do with the bar complaint. Maybe there is a thread more suitable that was started and got left behind..?

 

[zadari]

bbm~
That is So True zadari! and I too believe that most everything was left up to the grandmothers, as happens all too often these days.

Thing is though I don't believe that any drug use played into HaLeighs disappearance tho. (unless as I've stated before, it had to do with state of mind due to drug use, which would be a very likely possibility imo ) What a sad state of affairs for poor HaLeigh, who's disappearance, IMHO has somehow gotten lost in this battle of who's the worst OR better parent. She deserves so much more and I beginning to believe they are ALL letting her down ....again. That fact really has me worried about Jr's future, I tell you that much!

i dont know that it did either i just know people become idiots when they get addicted to drugs .. nothing matters but the drugs .. and kids get left alone so the parent can go party .. i think this is what happened with misty .misty wasnt there and someone nabbed the poor baby im talking more about the elements that were around haleigh .. the drug element ect..

 

[s1rebecca]

Maybe if Crystal paid her child support Ron could have hired a real sitter or paid for daycare. As a single parent that was once on a limited income a good affordable babysitter is hard to come by. I don't see why she gets a free pass on this. I am a fan of neither of them but she obviously failed as a mother.

 

[elle1919]

Maybe if Crystal paid her child support Ron could have hired a real sitter or paid for daycare. As a single parent that was once on a limited income a good affordable babysitter is hard to come by. I don't see why she gets a free pass on this. I am a fan of neither of them but she obviously failed as a mother.

No pass from me, she is still their mother and has every opportunity to prove that she is a good Mom. Had Haleigh NOT gone missing none of us would have a glimpse into these people lives. I don't think it does any good to blame either Crystal or Ronald at this point or to focus on what either of them should have done to be good parents. It is easy in retrospect to say if this had happened, and if that had happened but in my opinion it's not going to solve the question of where Haleigh is now by determining who the better parent was. I hope that both Ronald and Crystal have the opportunity to be better parents to both Haleigh and RJ in the future.

 

[PorcineGranny]

Maybe if Crystal paid her child support Ron could have hired a real sitter or paid for daycare. As a single parent that was once on a limited income a good affordable babysitter is hard to come by. I don't see why she gets a free pass on this. I am a fan of neither of them but she obviously failed as a mother.

Rebecca, hi, and I'm just going to throw a little personal opinion in here. Ron has kept the basically same living standard through this all. He had three vehicles and the ability to maintain his girlfriend, feed, and provide shelter. Although now he seems to have a little more cash, I don't really know, he dresses better, but we have not seen a public improvement in Butterbeans life. To my knowledge Butterbean is not enrolled in a nursery school or provided with enriching activities outside his family circle. I believe Ron was forced through the courts to allow psychiatrist visits. Now, there is another rumor in Ron's life and rumors don't come cheap, JMO

 

[Pondering Mind]

i dont know that it did either i just know people become idiots when they get addicted to drugs .. nothing matters but the drugs .. and kids get left alone so the parent can go party .. i think this is what happened with misty .misty wasnt there and someone nabbed the poor baby im talking more about the elements that were around haleigh .. the drug element ect..

I agree with all of your post except I believe that somebody's temper got out of control, prolly made MUCH worse due to all aspects of drug use. I'm not sure whether I believe Misty left the MH that night or not, but to be honest I haven't concentrated on that a whole lot because it's MO that something happened to HaLeigh at the hands of Ron or Misty, not intentional but nevertheless... The only reason that whether Misty was home or not matters to me at this point would be because if she was gone, I feel she was either disposing of ___, you know.. (and I don't want to type it ) or the fact that if she was with someone else, maybe she said something....(although that's not looking too promising)

You are SO RIGHT about the drugs/drug elements around HaLeigh and I have a feeling that her and Jr's whole life have been surrounded by that. It's hard for some to believe that otherwise good, decent people when using/abusing drugs can very quickly turn into someone that while they love their family they 'love' their drugs so much more that NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else matters, but sadly it does happen every minute of every day and it happens everywhere and anywhere. You know what 'they' say... There but for the grace of God go I....ok, I just realized that I am WAY OT soooo, I'll be on my way..
eta~Glad to see you posting zadari, maybe you have been for the last few months and our paths just haven't crossed!

 

[s1rebecca]

I just don't have much sympathy for mothers that walk out or don't fight for their children. I was raised by my father and yes my grandmother and other relatives played a big part in raising my brother and I. My mother never paid child support but within a year of leaving my father had another child. She could have done more but chose not to.

 

[elle1919]

I agree with all of your post except I believe that somebody's temper got out of control, prolly made MUCH worse due to all aspects of drug use. I'm not sure whether I believe Misty left the MH that night or not, but to be honest I haven't concentrated on that a whole lot because it's MO that something happened to HaLeigh at the hands of Ron or Misty, not intentional but nevertheless... The only reason that whether Misty was home or not matters to me at this point would be because if she was gone, I feel she was either disposing of ___, you know.. (and I don't want to type it ) or the fact that if she was with someone else, maybe she said something....(although that's not looking too promising)

You are SO RIGHT about the drugs/drug elements around HaLeigh and I have a feeling that her and Jr's whole life have been surrounded by that. It's hard for some to believe that otherwise good, decent people when using/abusing drugs can very quickly turn into someone that while they love their family they 'love' their drugs so much more that NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else matters, but sadly it does happen every minute of every day and it happens everywhere and anywhere. You know what 'they' say... There but for the grace of God go I....ok, I just realized that I am WAY OT soooo, I'll be on my way..
eta~Glad to see you posting zadari, maybe you have been for the last few months and our paths just haven't crossed!

I agree 100% about the drug issues and how drug abuse might affect a family. People can get clean and go on to lead a very productive life and there is always hope. the statistics aren't great about those that are able to recover but I personally know one who did! Thank God in heaven

 

[DenVIP]

let me see I read the heading for this thread, it its not the crystal or ron thread....at least not by topic....did you folks lose sight of this?

 

[DenVIP]

this is about a frivolous lawsuit brought by Crystal because she was influence by a poster just like you or me....the differece is that poster felt her opinion were truths....uh maybe in her own head....and now ultimately Haleigh is paying the price.....we can all give opinions......anyway this thread is not the place for bickering over whose more fit Crystal or Ron....its about a meddling poster and how it damages us as users in these forums

 

[atherella]

Rebecca, hi, and I'm just going to throw a little personal opinion in here. Ron has kept the basically same living standard through this all. He had three vehicles and the ability to maintain his girlfriend, feed, and provide shelter. Although now he seems to have a little more cash, I don't really know, he dresses better, but we have not seen a public improvement in Butterbeans life. To my knowledge Butterbean is not enrolled in a nursery school or provided with enriching activities outside his family circle. I believe Ron was forced through the courts to allow psychiatrist visits. Now, there is another rumor in Ron's life and rumors don't come cheap, JMO

BBM

How do you know whether or not Junior is enrolled in any type of schooling? It is not OUR business! I applaud Ron & Crystal for keeping Junior out of the public eye as much as possible. Many of the people involved in blogging about this case are VULTURES, IMO. We, the internet world, do NOT have the right to know everything that goes on in this little boy's life. While I hope and pray that he is in school, it is NOT my business and I have no delusions that I should be allowed to know everything about him. He is 4 year's old and should be allowed some privacy.

As far as counseling, we do NOT know that Ron was "forced" to allow counseling for Junior. We do NOT know the circumstances at ALL surrounding that. All we DO know is that Crystal filed a Motion with the Court. We do not know if Ron and Crystal could not agree on a counselor, we do not know if Crystal never discussed this with Ron - we don't know anything about it - and again - it's NOT our business. What we DO know because unfortunately certain things are public record in FL is that Junior is in counseling. I'm glad for that.

As far as RUMORS - this is not the rumor thread so there really is no point discussing RUMORS upstairs where they don't belong, IMO.

We've strayed WAY off topic.

To get back on topic, TJ Hart has "chirped" that he has ordered the documents pertaining to the Bar Complaint that Crystal has filed against Kim Picazio. I wonder how long it will take him to get those? I imagine he'll get the original complaint Crystal filed against Kim, and probably any subsequent answers that Kim filed. We should be able to find out if there was a hearing, or if the bar made their decision based upon the filings.

 

[cajun]

Rebecca, hi, and I'm just going to throw a little personal opinion in here. Ron has kept the basically same living standard through this all. He had three vehicles and the ability to maintain his girlfriend, feed, and provide shelter. Although now he seems to have a little more cash, I don't really know, he dresses better, but we have not seen a public improvement in Butterbeans life. To my knowledge Butterbean is not enrolled in a nursery school or provided with enriching activities outside his family circle. I believe Ron was forced through the courts to allow psychiatrist visits. Now, there is another rumor in Ron's life and rumors don't come cheap, JMO

You would be wrong in your knowledge of Jr. not being enrolled in something.

 

[cajun]

let me see I read the heading for this thread, it its not the crystal or ron thread....at least not by topic....did you folks lose sight of this?

It has everything to do with Crystal and Kim

 

[cajun]

BBM

How do you know whether or not Junior is enrolled in any type of schooling? It is not OUR business! I applaud Ron & Crystal for keeping Junior out of the public eye as much as possible. Many of the people involved in blogging about this case are VULTURES, IMO. We, the internet world, do NOT have the right to know everything that goes on in this little boy's life. While I hope and pray that he is in school, it is NOT my business and I have no delusions that I should be allowed to know everything about him. He is 4 year's old and should be allowed some privacy.

As far as counseling, we do NOT know that Ron was "forced" to allow counseling for Junior. We do NOT know the circumstances at ALL surrounding that. All we DO know is that Crystal filed a Motion with the Court. We do not know if Ron and Crystal could not agree on a counselor, we do not know if Crystal never discussed this with Ron - we don't know anything about it - and again - it's NOT our business. What we DO know because unfortunately certain things are public record in FL is that Junior is in counseling. I'm glad for that.

As far as RUMORS - this is not the rumor thread so there really is no point discussing RUMORS upstairs where they don't belong, IMO.

We've strayed WAY off topic.

To get back on topic, TJ Hart has "chirped" that he has ordered the documents pertaining to the Bar Complaint that Crystal has filed against Kim Picazio. I wonder how long it will take him to get those? I imagine he'll get the original complaint Crystal filed against Kim, and probably any subsequent answers that Kim filed. We should be able to find out if there was a hearing, or if the bar made their decision based upon the filings.

Kim said they were open records and if he requested them yesterday we should know something by the middle of next week anyway.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Maybe if Crystal paid her child support Ron could have hired a real sitter or paid for daycare. As a single parent that was once on a limited income a good affordable babysitter is hard to come by. I don't see why she gets a free pass on this. I am a fan of neither of them but she obviously failed as a mother.

maybe...but I doubt it considering he had free childcare at his disposal. I don't believe that she failed as a mother at all...she may have left a lot to be desired, but failed, nah...I wouldn't consider Ron a failure as a father either (although IMHO he too leaves much to be desired as a parent) Thing is...I DO believe that he is either responsible for or complicit in his daughters disappearance, therein lies a HUGE difference imo. Now, if one believes the same of Crystal..then I can totally understand such judgement of her...if not....I was FAR from a perfect parent (although I did pretty dang good if I do say so myself :blushing..so I'll leave that there....
OT, but one last note..once upon a time when my children were growing up I might have even partaken of the ganja myself.. If I did, of course it would not have been in front of or around them and I still would still think of myself as a very good mom AND grandmom. Of course there would be those who would have burned me at the stake (some while taking a big swig of their own cocktail ) ..Just saying that IF one believes that she is responsible for HaLeigh being missing, then ALL of this carp is important into the investigation, but if not, wth is the point? Just to crucify her because you don't agree with her choices and lifestyle? Each to their own, but I'll take my own inventory first if that's the case............

 

[elle1919]

Is there a cost for the records that one must pay when making a formal request for them? I know nothing about the Florida Sunshine law so I was just wondering.