Bar Complaint Against Former Lawyer Picazio Filed By Crystal Sheffiel

[curvecuti]

I thought the bar complaint was ruled unfounded?

It was. KP presented lots and lots of evidence, unfortunately it reveals the truth about Crystal, Marie, Chad and some others. And it also reveals the concerted action plotted by many people to sway public opinion about RC and family and the plot to CONCEAL the truth about Crystal and family. It spells out exactly how this was done on crime forums, and how out and out lies were told as fact. It was/is a horrible, horrible thing to read. For anyone who hasn't read it, it is very eye opening. imo.

 

[Bathbuddys]

It was. KP presented lots and lots of evidence, unfortunately it reveals the truth about Crystal, Marie, Chad and some others. And it also reveals the concerted action plotted by many people to sway public opinion about RC and family and the plot to CONCEAL the truth about Crystal and family. It spells out exactly how this was done on crime forums, and how out and out lies were told as fact. It was/is a horrible, horrible thing to read. For anyone who hasn't read it, it is very eye opening. imo.

and where is the link to this file?

 

[curvecuti]

and where is the link to this file?

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[chicoliving]

I'm opening this thread back up for discussion of the bar complaint filed by CS.

If you post on this thread just to stir it up then you will suffer the consequences.

I'd rather herd cats than close a thread for clean up and delete several dozen posts that are in violation of the rules and meant to stir chit.

If you see a post going in the wrong direction and I don't mean just off topic a bit then alert to it and I will get to it just as soon as I can.

Don't quote the post and respond. Your response may be just fine but it's going to end up tossed out if the quoted post is then deleted. This applies to the entire forum not just this thread.

It's not like this is not our first dance folks.

 

[curvecuti]

As of today we all should realize that bashing anyone of these people is not finding HaLeigh. WE NEED TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS and FINDING THE ANSWERS.

We have focused our attention on many since the beginning and have been told many things that now need a second look and reconsideration as to if there are any indications from day one that this is an abduction orchestrated by Marie or Marty/Connie. The grandparents have shown suspicious behavior IMO and would have the means and motive. I have mentioned before the united front and then the fall out between them all. IMO at this time Crystal is not the one we need to worry about.

It would be interesting if these two (Marie and Marcus) where brought in for questioning by LE, in fact we should be e-mailing PCSO and urge them to and PR some facts and truths............Like they have found HaLeigh and she is safe and well!~!!!!!!!!!

ITA. I wish we knew if MG, MS, CS and CG were questioned by LE. And if all of them were given LD in the beginning. iirc MG was not? I also would like to know what in the search of MG's property caused them to give CG a LD test at that time.

It's apparent that from the way the case looks to be going, they can not point to a POI so why not take the other road and rule out some people? IMO, This should be easy to do and I wish we knew if anything like this had been done. I think the PCSO should make some basic statements such as we have ruled out the following people or we can/have not at this time ruled out anyone as a suspect. It's been long enough, and it's time to lay the cards on the table and get on with things. imo.

ETA: do I need to delete the quote? I see it is gone.

 

[believe09]

I read the complaint and the response. I can see why the bar ruled the way it did. I would also think that it might generate some discussion with the AG office in FL regarding the contributions made to the family as well as whether or not Crystal should keep custody of her remaining children.

I think the snap shot it introduced into the lives of these people is incredibly sad. Really, really sad. Babies having babies, drug use instead of adequate prenatal care, absentee parenting....it is a cycle that is just being perpetuated by all of them. JMVHO.

 

[texasmommy39]

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFIBsFxTVM8"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]
This interview was before Kim P. was on the scene.

 

[texasmommy39]

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E32-t1uLY_M"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]
This interview IMO says it all.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

Finally got to re-read the bar complaint a bit more thoroughly...and I think it is enlightening on a couple levels...clearly given the information provided about CS--it is highly unlikely that she could mastermind such an abduction--KWIM? also...interesting to note that KP mentions Teresa being a blogger with blogging buddies....not that I was surprised one iota about either of these elements...JMO MOO ETC..

 

[texasmommy39]

ITA. I wish we knew if MG, MS, CS and CG were questioned by LE. And if all of them were given LD in the beginning. iirc MG was not? I also would like to know what in the search of MG's property caused them to give CG a LD test at that time.

It's apparent that from the way the case looks to be going, they can not point to a POI so why not take the other road and rule out some people? IMO, This should be easy to do and I wish we knew if anything like this had been done. I think the PCSO should make some basic statements such as we have ruled out the following people or we can/have not at this time ruled out anyone as a suspect. It's been long enough, and it's time to lay the cards on the table and get on with things. imo.

ETA: do I need to delete the quote? I see it is gone.

I am sorry I deleted after reading Chico's post--I do value my privliges:angel:. I do believe PCSO has been aware of MISINFORMATION that those Neighbors, Family and Friends that seem to be soooooo helpful are giving. I pray that PCSO is getting the truth to their questions now. HaLeigh Is probable right under their nose... in Putnam or Baker County.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

I am sorry I deleted after reading Chico's post--I do value my privliges:angel:. I do believe PCSO has been aware of MISINFORMATION that those Neighbors, Family and Friends that seem to be soooooo helpful are giving. I pray that PCSO is getting the truth to their questions now. HaLeigh Is probable right under their nose... in Putnam or Baker County.

Texasmommy--I agree with you that family and friends would be partial and not particularly helpful--but why would the neighbors give misinformation? Didn't some have kids who rode the bus with Haleigh? I mean they had to have concerns for their own children, one would think....JMO etc....

 

[texasmommy39]

Texasmommy--I agree with you that family and friends would be partial and not particularly helpful--but why would the neighbors give misinformation? Didn't some have kids who rode the bus with Haleigh? I mean they had to have concerns for their own children, one would think....JMO etc....

I am sure there are many that where genuinely helpful, but, MPO is that there are a few that have had to have some connection to CRYSTAL, MARIE OR MARTY and where willing to provide misinformation to further the confusion...I have read a few post on the Internet that infer they are neighbors and have furthered the gossip mill. JMO and of course it is not stated as fact.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I am trying to sort out what we learned about the environment of Haleigh's disappearance from the bar complaint. First, it's clear that at least in Crystal's case, her lawyer was the one in contact with LE. That may be true in Ron's case, as well. While Crystal's relationship with her attorney ended up in a furball (my descriptive term for two cats in a fight), we can see from the documents why some parents in missing child cases either feel they need an attorney or really do need one. KP was working child custody, child support, and being a point person with LE. She was doing PR work for the media and trying to manage her client's and the extended family's interaction with the blogosphere. Putting aside how the relationship worked out, we can see how a parent or family might need counsel even if they are in no way involved in an abduction. I hope we can put to rest the comments, in regard to any of the principals in this case, that argue having legal representation makes a person a suspect or, worse, guilty of or complicit in the abduction. Both parents here were represented by people who tried to do the right thing and carry out the child support issues in private, rather than going back to court while Haleigh was missing. Whatever KP did wrong, she did that right, for sure.

We can also see WHY people want their story in the media, above and beyond publicity about the missing child, since some nice person paid Crystal's child support arrearages to the tune of $12,000.

I was surprised at how many people involved in the case appear to be blogging, posting on forums, etc. That's something we all need to keep in mind, and why it is so important to post links from reputable sources, to be careful of picking up overgeneralized or exaggerated statements about peoples' past histories, and to be very wary of "insider information," which may be disinformation from the innocent, the guilty, the self-serving, and/or the well-intentioned but ill-informed.

Finally, look at what we've learned about the initial custody hearing from Crystal's lawyer (whose response made offers of documentary proof throughout). It's not important, really, that Crystal lied about not being served; if she is an addict, that is to be expected, as lying is part of the "disease" of addiction. (Speaking here as someone with alcoholics hanging all over the family tree, and therefore with firsthand experience.) What should matter to us is that her lie was taken up as "evidence" that Ron somehow arranged for the notice to go to the wrong address. That Crystal was cheated, etc. The notice was served in person. Mail was never an issue. Maybe a little sleuthing into how these things are handled in this jurisdiction would have made the lie obvious to us. We might also have wondered why the judge wouldn't have reprimanded Ron if he was responsible for giving a wrong address. That story should never have stood up to sleuthing scrutiny. Just because someone says, "I didn't get the notice" doesn't mean that it is true. And we can't begin to build any kind of case for or against anyone based on unverified claims and assertions.

It also occurs to me that the length of this case has produced a lot of the craziness we see playing out in the media. Had Haleigh been found quickly, alive or not, the parents, stepparents, grandparents, etc. would have faded from this scene--unless one or more emerged as suspects. There wouldn't be a need for lawyers, and spin; there wouldn't be the attempts to paint one side as evil in order to buff up the reputation of the other.

 

[curvecuti]

Finally got to re-read the bar complaint a bit more thoroughly...and I think it is enlightening on a couple levels...clearly given the information provided about CS--it is highly unlikely that she could mastermind such an abduction--KWIM? also...interesting to note that KP mentions Teresa being a blogger with blogging buddies....not that I was surprised one iota about either of these elements...JMO MOO ETC..

That is one thing she shows no proof of. If someone has proof of this I would like to see it. TIA.

 

[elle1919]

Finally got to re-read the bar complaint a bit more thoroughly...and I think it is enlightening on a couple levels...clearly given the information provided about CS--it is highly unlikely that she could mastermind such an abduction--KWIM? also...interesting to note that KP mentions Teresa being a blogger with blogging buddies....not that I was surprised one iota about either of these elements...JMO MOO ETC..

After re-reading the bar documents you feel the most enlightening of the information was that Kim P mentioned that Teresa was a blogger and had blogging buddies?

Personally I have never thought that Crystal, Haleigh's mother, was the mastermind behind what Law Enforcement is calling a non stranger abduction. That thought never entered my mind.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

That is one thing she shows no proof of. If someone has proof of this I would like to see it. TIA.

Yes, this appears in an email, as I recall. She might not have documented that point as TN's blogger status isn't directly connected to the complaint.

 

[cajun]

Finally got to re-read the bar complaint a bit more thoroughly...and I think it is enlightening on a couple levels...clearly given the information provided about CS--it is highly unlikely that she could mastermind such an abduction--KWIM? also...interesting to note that KP mentions Teresa being a blogger with blogging buddies....not that I was surprised one iota about either of these elements...JMO MOO ETC..

I do think most of us think Crystal didn't have the gumption to pull something like that off anyway, but that doesn't mean someone else in her family didn't. Teresa is not a blogger, has never been a blogger no matter what was said.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

I don't think most of us think Crystal didn't have the gumption to pull something like that off anyway, but that doesn't mean someone else in her family didn't. Teresa is not a blogger, has never been a blogger no matter what was said.

Do you have a link? Per TOS upstairs we need links so I'm gonna go with what an officer of the court has stated in a legal document. I respect your opinion but see no documented proof to refute what KP stated. JMO

 

[Nana46]

Do you have a link? Per TOS upstairs we need links so I'm gonna go with what an officer of the court has stated in a legal document. I respect your opinion but see no documented proof to refute what KP stated. JMO

Gosh I would not argue with anybody for a thousand bucks but how in the world do we know "anyone" is not a blogger? How do we know this especially about TN? Boy I am confused as per usual,lol. TIA


Sorry meant to bounce that off Cajun. an error by me as always,lol

 

[curvecuti]

Do you have a link? Per TOS upstairs we need links so I'm gonna go with what an officer of the court has stated in a legal document. I respect your opinion but see no documented proof to refute what KP stated. JMO

Not to be confrontational, but does this mean you believe everything in those docs.? I waiver on some things, not just TN but the that KP said she never "blogged"/posted on the boards herself, we know that is not true. Just wondering your take on it.