Belgium - 32 Killed In Suicide Bombing At Brussels Airport, 22 March 2016 *arrests, Guilty*

[MelmothTheLost]

He has probably trained other individuals how to make these bombs and his expertise was no longer essential. Is there any news about these killers going to Pakistan etc possibly for terrorist training?

I haven't seen anything about him going to Pakistan or somewhere similar but perhaps it's too early for much information to have come out yet.

In terms of him training others in bomb-making, that's obviously very possible but I would be surprised if an organisation unnecessarily sacrificed a trainer who had to have greater experience than anyone he trained. Unless he really did want his "martyrdom".

 

[fabvab]

It has emerged during the day that the two brothers attacked different targets, one the airport and the other the metro train. However it's now become clear that the second dead bomber at the airport was the bomb-maker himself.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-suicide-bombing-mystery-man-white-run.html

This is interesting because one has to ask why someone who obviously had longterm value to Daesh should kill himself instead of staying alive to build more bombs for future attacks. Two possible explanations are:

1. The person who should have detonated the second bomb chickened out at the last minute and the bomb maker was forced to stand in as a substitute to ensure the attack went ahead;

2. This was not actually a Daesh cell but an independent home-grown one, and with the death of the last of the cell's members in this attack the bomb-maker saw his job as done.

I can't decide whether the one in white, not yet captured, ever intended to die in the attack. His seems to have been the bomb that failed to detonate, but then again he did not seem to be wearing a glove so not concealing a detonator. His role seems to be very unclear, especially considering that the bomb-maker died in the attack.

It looks like all their blackmluggage was identical. Am I correct? And did anyone else notice the same thing?

Btw. I think 3 young guys look odd walking together and each one is using a luggage cart which appears to hold only one bag per cart.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-23/brussels-attacks-manhunt-for-suspect/7268710

 

[dotr]

Representative Devin Nunes of California, chairman of the U.S. House intelligence committee, said the attacks may have been aimed at U.S. citizens, noting that the airport blast struck close to U.S. airline counters and that the metro station hit was near the U.S. embassy.

"It looks like it was targeted toward Americans to some degree," Nunes told reporters.

Apart from the eight Americans confirmed as wounded, U.S. media reported on Wednesday that relatives of at least four other Americans who had been traveling in Belgium were still trying to track them down.
Husband and wife Justin and Stephanie Shults, originally from Tennessee and Kentucky, respectively, but now living in Belgium, have not been heard from since they dropped a relative at the airport shortly before the blasts, a family member said.

"We haven't been able to contact them going on 30 hours," Justin Shults' brother, Levi Sutton, told Reuters in a Facebook message. "Stephanie's mom is fine but she was separated from Justin and Stephanie."

DEATH TOLL COULD RISE

Sister and brother Sascha and Alexander Pinczowski, who had been living in New York, remain unaccounted for, the New York Daily News reported. The Pinczowskis' citizenship was unclear. A woman who identified herself on social media as Alexander Pinczowski's girlfriend said she had been unable to contact him since Tuesday morning.

Belgian officials have said the death toll could increase because some victims at the subway station were blown to pieces and hard to identify, and several survivors were in critical condition.

http://news.yahoo.com/not-u-citizens-yet-accounted-brussels-state-department-123455901.html#

 

[Gigi-G]

It has emerged during the day that the two brothers attacked different targets, one the airport and the other the metro train. However it's now become clear that the second dead bomber at the airport was the bomb-maker himself.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-suicide-bombing-mystery-man-white-run.html

This is interesting because one has to ask why someone who obviously had longterm value to Daesh should kill himself instead of staying alive to build more bombs for future attacks. Two possible explanations are:

1. The person who should have detonated the second bomb chickened out at the last minute and the bomb maker was forced to stand in as a substitute to ensure the attack went ahead;

2. This was not actually a Daesh cell but an independent home-grown one, and with the death of the last of the cell's members in this attack the bomb-maker saw his job as done.

I can't decide whether the one in white, not yet captured, ever intended to die in the attack. His seems to have been the bomb that failed to detonate, but then again he did not seem to be wearing a glove so not concealing a detonator. His role seems to be very unclear, especially considering that the bomb-maker died in the attack.

Either way. They were paid handsomely to offer their services to Daesh/ISIS be it in life or death. They're promised martyrdom after they have caused maximum impact to the Kuffar (us everyday citizens) And yet it's YES a cowards way out. Using civilian soft targets. Bit like keyboard warriors really. Or bullys. Our fight with them is that of a political one. That's why our countries have come together to stop their perverse ideologies and genocide. Hard targets like their money making ventures. Oil pipes and the like. As well as Intel revealing where the top established members are hiding out.
Citizens get caught up in any battle and that's awful in any way. But to kill and maim our children our families is nothing but short of barbarism. Imo as always.

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[Gigi-G]

It is so frustrating that we have to wait for multiple people being murdered and severely injured for these individuals to be arrested or be properly investigated after they have blown themselves up. It just seems like a helpless situation where the terrorists always have the upper hand. The security services do a tremendous job and I know countless plots have been thwarted but I hope they get the financial resources to keep a closer eye on more suspected terrorists.

Thank you everyone for all your news updates and discussion posts they are much appreciated.

Over the years our LE. Special Ops. Intel on the ground. Have been drastically cut back. Same as our Armed Forces. It's even been lessened since 9/11. 7/7. We should of learnt from those awful events. That there is a major flaw. Instead of the tit for tat racism attacks on police. They should be gearing up to cope with situations just like this. We are a soft target. And Daesh/ISIS know this.
Someone posted prior. That ISIS sympathisers have enrolled into the LE. Now if anything is dangerous. That is.
Just like the San Bernadino couple. She got a visa instantaneously. Do we not vett people coming into our countries anymore?
The possibilities are very frightening.
It's time for us to sit up act up. And get ourselves in order! Smdh mo

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[dotr]

Siblings and terrorism, lengthy article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/24/w...=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

JIM YARDLEY, RUKMINI CALLIMACHI and SCOTT SHANEMARCH 23, 2016

The identification of Khalid and Ibrahim el-Bakraoui as suicide bombers in the deadly Brussels attacks is confronting investigators and counterterrorism experts with a disturbingly recurrent question: Why do so many terrorists turn out to be brothers?

The Bakraouis join a list of brothers involved in nearly every major terror attack on Western soil since three sets of Saudi siblings were among the 19 hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States. Before then, the grim roster included 19th century French anarchists, militants in Southeast Asia and the Jewish extremists who assassinated former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.

For terror groups, brothers can be ideal recruits. They radicalize one another while reinforcing a sense of purpose and ideological calling. They keep watch on one another to insure an attack is carried out. One new study suggests that up to 30 percent of members of terrorist groups share family ties.

Siblings also present a formidable challenge for law enforcement. They often live in the same house. They can communicate easily, without using cellphones that are vulnerable surveillance. And the glue of family can often — though not always — serve as insurance against one member of a cell betraying the mission to the authorities.

rbbm.

 

[Tony1902]

Over the years our LE. Special Ops. Intel on the ground. Have been drastically cut back. Same as our Armed Forces. It's even been lessened since 9/11. 7/7. We should of learnt from those awful events. That there is a major flaw. Instead of the tit for tat racism attacks on police. They should be gearing up to cope with situations just like this. We are a soft target. And Daesh/ISIS know this.
Someone posted prior. That ISIS sympathisers have enrolled into the LE. Now if anything is dangerous. That is.
Just like the San Bernadino couple. She got a visa instantaneously. Do we not vett people coming into our countries anymore?
The possibilities are very frightening.
It's time for us to sit up act up. And get ourselves in order! Smdh mo

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This will no doubt get me on either time out or banned:
Send them to the American South: Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia. Hell, yeah

 

[dotr]

Aviation security expert Philip Baum told The Guardian: "It's ultimately down to looking for people with negative intent and we have to do that without creating new security hurdles that create new targets, such as checkpoints at the entrances to terminals.

"If you look at the Germanwings crash, Metrojet bombing [in the Sinai] or today [in Brussels], people with criminal intent think outside the box – and we need to too."

The West needs to do exactly that, because it's how IS operates.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/brussel...key-arrest-20160322-gnoyp7.html#ixzz43mlotJfj
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[Sulamith]

This will no doubt get me on either time out or banned:
Send them to the American South: Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia. Hell, yeah

What do you mean? Are you implying that there are a lot of racist LEO in those states?

 

[Gigi-G]

This will no doubt get me on either time out or banned:
Send them to the American South: Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi or Georgia. Hell, yeah

Lol... Snm [emoji6]

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[Gigi-G]

No racism here. Just good old country values. Where you used to know yr local sheriff. Where children had respect. Good grief where so say some adults had respect. We need to get back to those values. Come together. Work together. We don't need a nanny state. We have seen how much of a soft target we really are as dotr said. We need to think 'outside' the box. Cuz that's the way Daesh are planning it.

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[Estelle]

Two British Islamic State fighters have threatened terror attacks on Heathrow, Gatwick and Downing Street in a chilling video celebrating the Brussels bombings.

The men, wearing black masks and speaking with London accents, filmed themselves laughing at the Belgium atrocity before posting their message on Instagram.

One of the men proclaims: 'Belgium, Brussels airport big boom went off...innit. Heathrow...'
Masked 'British ISIS fighters' threaten Heathrow and Gatwick

Another jihadi with a British accent joins in laughing: 'Gatwick, Downing Street... you get me bruv..??'
The video has been picked up by the Washington based Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) which monitors extremist propaganda.

Security experts believe the men are both ISIS fighters based in Syria where they used an internet cafe to film their threats.

The menacing video is further evidence of the determined threat facing the UK from British jihadists who have gone to fight in Syria.

British security agencies estimate there are at least 400 British extremists based in Syria and around the same number who have returned to the UK from the fighting.

Yesterday it was reported ISIS supporters have been celebrating the horrific terror attacks in Brussels by launching a poll asking for suggestions for the next city to target.

On a forum page, one user set up the question poll: 'What will be the color of the Eiffel Tower in the next attacks?'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-Brussels-terror-attacks.html#ixzz43pJqd3GL

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Ex-Oakland player recounts Brussels attacks

Holly Fournier, The Detroit News 9:34 a.m. EDT March 24, 2016

A former Oakland University basketball player who was injured in Tuesday’s terrorist attacks in Brussels gave an emotional “Good Morning America” interview from his hospital bed.

“I just didn’t want my girls to grow up without a dad,” Sebastien Bellin, 37, told ABC’s David Muir in a video released Thursday. The injured man wiped tears from his eyes and held back sobs as he recounted two bombs exploding as he stood at a Brussels airport ticket counter, bound for New York City on business...

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...nd-player-recounts-brussels-attacks/82202290/

 

[bluesneakers]

What do you mean? Are you implying that there are a lot of racist LEO in those states?

I think racists is the implication, and not limited to LE.

 

[Tony1902]

What do you mean? Are you implying that there are a lot of racist LEO in those states?

No, darlin we all have guns.

 

[Tony1902]

No racism here. Just good old country values. Where you used to know yr local sheriff. Where children had respect. Good grief where so say some adults had respect. We need to get back to those values. Come together. Work together. We don't need a nanny state. We have seen how much of a soft target we really are as dotr said. We need to think 'outside' the box. Cuz that's the way Daesh are planning it.

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This is what I was trying to say. There's racism everywhere, though. Or should I say bigotry?

 

[bluesneakers]

This is what I was trying to say. There's racism everywhere, though. Or should I say bigotry?

ISIS don't care.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Sorry if this has been posted.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/209834#.VvQZnHr3arU

Israel was among those who warned Belgium ahead of the terrorist attack at the Zaventem airport in Brussels, Channel 2 News reported on Wednesday.

According to the report, Israel provided Belgium with concrete information on security breaches at the airport, where the first of two attacks on the Belgian capital took place on Tuesday, and claimed that "there are serious security deficiencies at the airport in Brussels".

The warnings reportedly came from Israeli security officials who are responsible to check airports across Europe in which flights to and from Israel depart and land. Those officials identified the security-related issues at the Zaventem airport and updated the Belgians about them.

The Channel 2 News follows a report in Haaretz earlier which said that Belgian intelligence services received specific warnings ahead of Tuesday's attacks but failed to properly investigate them.

According to Haaretz, the intelligence centers in Brussels, as well as in other Western countries, knew that terrorists would strike the Zaventem airport and, probably, the city's railway in the near future.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Also, it appeared the NYPD was well aware and on alert BEFORE the attacks.

 

[Gigi-G]

ISIS don't care.

Exactly!



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