GUILTY Belize - Superintendent Henry Jemmott, shot/body in sea, San Pedro Town, 28 May 2021 *arrest*

[Tugela]

I don't think we'll ever truly find out what happened here. But I think they were having an affair and I do tend to think it sounds like an accident

I don't see why there has to be an affair. People can be friends, especially in a small community where most of the people in prominent positions locally probably know each other very well.

 

[Sarahlou]

I don't see why there has to be an affair. People can be friends, especially in a small community where most of the people in prominent positions locally probably know each other very well.

Of course they can be, but if he did mention going on a date and she was giving him a massage then it sounds like more than friends to me.

 

[Tortoise]

Too many coincidences for my liking, safty catch off, finger on trigger, shooting experience, accidental shot with gun pointed to the head and not his shoulder, his hand, or the floor, or wherever, at the end of the pier not in an apartment. I think he was possibly calling in a favor (sexual), maybe ongoing, and she wanted this to look like a suicide but she just didn't get away in time and maybe he didnt fall off into the water as envisaged, to float away from the scene, so she rolled him off and got blood on her.

JMO

 

[stmarysmead]

Well, well, well

Now the plot thickens

He told a friend he had a special "date"

He was staying in a hotel between the hotel her husband owned and the one with the pier.

Belizean cop shot dead by Jasmine Hartin told a friend he was going on a secret date | Daily Mail Online[/QUOTE

From the article posted above...


‘Ms Hartin has told police that Jemmott had placed his service weapon on the ground while the pair were drinking in the early hours of Friday, and the she accidentally shot him as she passed the weapon back.

But firearms experts say that type of gun usually has a safety bar over the trigger to stop accidental discharge and that both elements have to be depressed for the weapon to fire.

Michael Van Durme a former cop who now teaches gun safety in America told The Sun: 'You have to have a firm grip on the trigger and pull it all the way back for it to go off.

'It has a safety built into the trigger – there’s a lever in the middle of it which also has to be pulled back the whole way in order for it to shoot. If you brush up against it or just hit the edge of it, it won’t fire.'

I think these two had some sort of “ arrangement.” That arrangement may have caused his “family problems” and been the reason for his transfer. The arrangement may be why she seems to be staying alone and not with her partner and children. My GUESS..and only that...is drugs for sex.


Maybe his transfer was initiated by the powerful family to cut off her supply. Maybe the transfer meant he was of no further use to her...but if he divulged their secret to the community, she’d be disgraced. He’d already begun hinting to friends about his secret date with a mystery woman.

I think she shot him deliberately. She is knowledgeable about guns and this gun doesn’t seem that easy to misfire.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

From the article posted above...


‘Ms Hartin has told police that Jemmott had placed his service weapon on the ground while the pair were drinking in the early hours of Friday, and the she accidentally shot him as she passed the weapon back.

But firearms experts say that type of gun usually has a safety bar over the trigger to stop accidental discharge and that both elements have to be depressed for the weapon to fire.

Michael Van Durme a former cop who now teaches gun safety in America told The Sun: 'You have to have a firm grip on the trigger and pull it all the way back for it to go off.

'It has a safety built into the trigger – there’s a lever in the middle of it which also has to be pulled back the whole way in order for it to shoot. If you brush up against it or just hit the edge of it, it won’t fire.'

I think these two had some sort of “ arrangement.” That arrangement may have caused his “family problems” and been the reason for his transfer. The arrangement may be why she seems to be staying alone and not with her partner and children. My GUESS..and only that...is drugs for sex.


Maybe his transfer was initiated by the powerful family to cut off her supply. Maybe the transfer meant he was of no further use to her...but if he divulged their secret to the community, she’d be disgraced. He’d already begun hinting to friends about his secret date with a mystery woman.

I think she shot him deliberately. She is knowledgeable about guns and this gun doesn’t seem that easy to misfire.

Another very plausible explanation. Except I think it was accidental. The bullet in the chamber caused the shot to be fired despite removing the clip. It’s not uncommon to keep one in the chamber. If needed for defense, that half second saved before pulling the trigger can mean the difference between life and death for the Glock gun owner. I don’t know, but could find out if keeping a bullet in the chamber disengages the safety feature that the expert discussed.
Otherwise, yes, I can see this scenario.

 

[stmarysmead]

Some other random guesses...opinions, whatever.

Why did he have his gun on this date? Was he the ‘muscle’ that accompanied her when she bought drugs from someone else? Did they meet that ‘someone’ first at that remote dock which is ‘sandwiched between’ where she lived and where he was staying for free?

Was she c0vered in blood because it took real effort for her to push his body off the dock into the sea? Was she planning on running away after that...leaving people to think he’d been ‘shot by a passing boat?’ That’s why she first used that story? But she was caught because a security guard heard the shot and came running?

 

[stmarysmead]

‘He had been killed by a 9mm bullet which hit him behind his right ear and was fired from his own gun. The handgun was nearby, with the empty shell casing that housed the fatal bullet still inside. It was loaded with another live bullet, while a second live round was found on the jetty. ‘

Does this mean the gun was fired twice?

Cellmate of Lord Ashcroft's daughter-in-law says she was 'roughed up' by police | Daily Mail Online

 

[Tortoise]

‘He had been killed by a 9mm bullet which hit him behind his right ear and was fired from his own gun. The handgun was nearby, with the empty shell casing that housed the fatal bullet still inside. It was loaded with another live bullet, while a second live round was found on the jetty. ‘

Does this mean the gun was fired twice?

Cellmate of Lord Ashcroft's daughter-in-law says she was 'roughed up' by police | Daily Mail Online

I always thought empty shell casings were ejected with the bullet, otherwise I'm struggling to understand how the next bullet has a clear path. Perhaps it requires manual ejection before firing again.

 

[clearskies1]

It's possible that he was passed out on the jetty, giving her free access to his gun. JMO.

 

[Herat]

One bullet hit him
One loaded in the chamber
One bullet ( not fired) found loose on the pier

Do we assume he carried a fully loaded gun? What was the magazine capacity?

If so, were the bullets possibly removed from the weapon found in his pockets?

Or could they have rolled off the pier into the water?

Where were the other bullets?

 

[Herat]

This is SO MUCH a Death In Paradise episode.

I expect to see DI Jack Mooney or DI Neville Parker or DI Humphrey Goodman step out onto the pier, as Commissioner Patterso reminds them of the gravity and delicacy of the situation.

 

[Ched]

I think he had a glock 17 , so it holds 17 bullets , I found a video of gun it shows the safety on the trigger well in it . I asked my husband about the casing , he said if it’s like a revolver (as that’s all he knows a tiny bit about) the casing moves into the empty bullet space at a guess .

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scrap that it looks like it ejects ? This camming action terminates the barrel's movement while the slide continues back under recoil, extracting and ejecting the spent cartridge casing. Glock - Wikipedia

 

[Ched]

Oh look I’ve found this about it not ejecting the casing “Limp-wristing can also cause a stovepipe, as not holding the pistol firmly enough can cause the slide to not cycle correctly, leading to a shorter return stroke and a stovepipe. Riding the thumb too high on the slide will also interfere with the pistol cycling and lead to a stovepipe.. Continue reading at: Diagnosing A Failure To Eject | Gun Belts Blog

 

[Herat]

I think he had a glock 17 , so it holds 17 bullets , I found a video of gun it shows the safety on the trigger well in it . I asked my husband about the casing , he said if it’s like a revolver (as that’s all he knows a tiny bit about) the casing moves into the empty bullet space at a guess .

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scrap that it looks like it ejects ? This camming action terminates the barrel's movement while the slide continues back under recoil, extracting and ejecting the spent cartridge casing. Glock - Wikipedia

Yes, I assumed the magazine carried 17 bullets.

Would he have normally carried it with only 3?

He's technically off-duty on this trip to San Pedro. I wonder what the rules are when LE officers are off-duty in Belize.

 

[Satchie]

I wonder what the rules are when LE officers are off-duty in Belize.

As someone noted amusingly up thread, this is not suburban Nebraska, IMO rules are not a big part of life in Belize. If he was somewhat of a straight cop, that's a big win for the country.

IMO, the nature of the relationship between them is critical to understanding what might have happened. But that's as yet a mystery.

He may have thought he was going to get lucky with this beautiful, rich, white socialite, but won't have been the first guy to discover it was only in his dreams.

I don't believe anything the DM/NY Post publish in these situations. The DM will pay some dodgy guy down there big bucks if they can come up with scandalous headlines, and dodgy 'journalists' in turn pay their own 'sources'. Again and again, this produces misinformation and outright lies that destroys people's lives. IMO 'gutter press' is an excellent description, these people are rooting around for any cast-off junk they can dredge up and call 'news'.

JMO

 

[Herat]

VERY interesting DM piece on Jasmine's social activities

Jasmine Hartin shunned high society to carouse with working class cops at a Belizean speakeasy | Daily Mail Online

I note it also says she is a" common-law wife".

 

[stmarysmead]

As someone noted amusingly up thread, this is not suburban Nebraska, IMO rules are not a big part of life in Belize. If he was somewhat of a straight cop, that's a big win for the country.

IMO, the nature of the relationship between them is critical to understanding what might have happened. But that's as yet a mystery.

He may have thought he was going to get lucky with this beautiful, rich, white socialite, but won't have been the first guy to discover it was only in his dreams.

I don't believe anything the DM/NY Post publish in these situations. The DM will pay some dodgy guy down there big bucks if they can come up with scandalous headlines, and dodgy 'journalists' in turn pay their own 'sources'. Again and again, this produces misinformation and outright lies that destroys people's lives. IMO 'gutter press' is an excellent description, these people are rooting around for any cast-off junk they can dredge up and call 'news'.

JMO

Unfortunately, here in the US, we only have gutter press. The NYtimes, WAPO, AP, etc..left, right, they all have agendas and ‘narratives.’ I learned this the hard way in 2006...being close to a notorious “rape” hoax that received international coverage. It took place in North Carolina, which is an “open file” state, thank God...so all testimony, legal filings, witness statements have public access. Naive me...absolutely gobsmacked by what was suppressed, what was twisted, what was complete fabrication. These were news entities I trusted, revered.

NEVER AGAIN.

So yes, it does make it difficult to know the ‘truth’ about anything. I trust NO media.

 

[Herat]

Intersting that there has been no statement from her BF/SO/Husband or other family members .

 

[Electric Sheep]

Intersting that there has been no statement from her BF/SO/Husband or other family members .

Other than to distance her as 'girlfriend'.

 

[Herat]

Other than to distance her as 'girlfriend'.

Is she the mother of the children or are they his after a divorce?