Bill Cosby charged w/aggravated Sexual Assault/other Rape Allegations *conviction vacated* *civil trial 2022 guilty* #6

[Trino]

He's 80 years old and not well. Any sentence will be a life sentence. Camille is also old, why should she divorce him, they've been together forever. Now, if he goes to jail, she will be alone and old. Sad. It is all so sad.

I am not victim blaming, but this women went to the home of a married man when his wife was not present and voluntarily took pills he offered to her? Ladies, please, be smart. This is how predators work.

Camille is an educated woman. It should be obvious more women will sue Cosby until he has nothing left. This is no longer about love or devotion. She needs to divorce him to save herself financially.

Cosby's accuser voluntarily went to his home. A private home is not a place to do legitimate business. As to the pills, Cosby didn't force her to take them. I am not defending Cosby, just saying, as you said, "Ladies, please be smart."

I believe Stormy Daniels found herself, according to her statement, in a similar situation by going to T's hotel room.

THINK, ladies, THINK. Suggest a public venue.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Bill Cosby was once 'America's Dad.' Now he's a convicted pariah.
The guilty verdict leveled against Bill Cosby on Thursday irrevocably damages his artistic legacy, experts say.

Bill Cosby — the avuncular sitcom dad, the stand-up comedian, the tough-love moralist who toured campuses and preached family values — would be convicted in a sexual assault case.

But with the guilty verdict leveled against Cosby on Thursday afternoon, his artistic legacy and public image are irrevocably damaged, and perhaps will even gradually be erased from a popular culture in which he thrived over a wildly successful career that spanned decades, experts say...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/b...cosby-was-once-america-s-dad-now-he-s-n869396

 

[Strangeworld]

Do I feel BC is guilty? Without a doubt.

However, I don't see celebrating because, assuming he goes to prison, taxpayer money will be funding him possibly for the rest of his life. The average yearly amount spent for state felons is between $20,000 and $40,000. Assuming he has health problems, the amount will be more. He will soon be 81 so this is a definite possibility. He will also get - at taxpayer cost - education and training.
Of course, BC will appeal. More cost to taxpayers - about $20,000.

Is BC worth this? Absolutely not. What is society gaining through prison except peace of mind knowing this man is being punished? There is no answer. It's just that when you analyze the situation, it doesn't pay to celebrate. It costs.

I just wish there was a way to make him financially responsible to society for millions rather than take care of him for the rest of his life at taxpayer expense.

Punishment for a crime committed is not always about society alone - and certainly not always about the cost. For many sexual assault victims, whilst forgiveness may occur, many times accountability for the crime itself is important in the healing process. Age should never be a factor in determining the punishment - victims spend their whole lives, into older age, living with the consequences of their trauma.

 

[margarita25]

Bill Cosby was once 'America's Dad.' Now he's a convicted pariah.
The guilty verdict leveled against Bill Cosby on Thursday irrevocably damages his artistic legacy, experts say.

Bill Cosby — the avuncular sitcom dad, the stand-up comedian, the tough-love moralist who toured campuses and preached family values — would be convicted in a sexual assault case.

But with the guilty verdict leveled against Cosby on Thursday afternoon, his artistic legacy and public image are irrevocably damaged, and perhaps will even gradually be erased from a popular culture in which he thrived over a wildly successful career that spanned decades, experts say...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/b...cosby-was-once-america-s-dad-now-he-s-n869396

(This reminds me of when I was in 8th grade or so. We had a class survey where we filled out questionaires about ourselves. One the questions was "what is your favorite TV show?" The majority of the class answered "The Cosby Show" (in addition to "Italian" being their favorite type of food). For some reason I've always remembered this.)

 

[MsJosie]

Even if he did flee to a country with no extradition treaty with the US, he would not want to live in those places and if he did flee, I hope that his bank account would be frozen.

I would not be surprised if his monies are invested in other countries. He has several years to move a lot of his money around and make plans. Time will tell.

 

[MsJosie]

Just a curiosity-why did Bill C say “he doesn’t have a plane”, as opposed to “I don’t have a plane” when referring to himself?

Prosecution knows something we do not. BC did not like that the fact he “owns” a plane came out in court. BC still can own a plane but be the pilot. Still think he is trying to start this “I am ill! I cannot remember what I say”.....to keep him out of prison and help with appeals....old and sick just might work.

 

[Rocky1]

Just a curiosity-why did Bill C say “he doesn’t have a plane”, as opposed to “I don’t have a plane” when referring to himself?

I think it was nothing more than a play on words.
Even if he said "I don't have a plane", He may be speaking the truth. I am not sure how his affairs are set up, but, I think he'd be smart enough to have the planes in some type of corporation, rather than in his name. So, by saying "I don't have a plane, it is the truth. A simple search of the tail numbers would reveal the owner.
Many aircraft owners by a plane in a formed corporation name, and then lease it back to themselves.

 

[Gooddeeds]

I think it was nothing more than a play on words.
Even if he said "I don't have a plane", He may be speaking the truth. I am not sure how his affairs are set up, but, I think he'd be smart enough to have the planes in some type of corporation, rather than in his name. So, by saying "I don't have a plane, it is the truth. A simple search of the tail numbers would reveal the owner.
Many aircraft owners by a plane in a formed corporation name, and then lease it back to themselves.

I appreciate your insight though my comment was not about the truth of him owning a plane, or 2 or more. In his response to the DA he referred to himself as ‘he’ versus ‘I’ don’t have a plane.”

I’m inclined to think this is an attempt at being ‘unwell’ for his own gain or communicating in first person context out of rebellion. The shenanigans he displayed at different times was most likely the same unwell appeal. It doesn’t matter, he was well enough when he committed crimes and while collecting a hefty paycheck.

In my opinion I think he could see pretty well when it was important to him. I’m not sure what the definition is for his age of legally blind.

 

[Niner]

Maybe he said "he doesn't own a plane" - thinking everyone will think someone else said it and not him.... :dunno:

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Bill Cosby could be sentenced to 30 years in prison. But it's likely to be much less.
"The big battle is whether in fact he gets jail time,” a former federal prosecutor said.

Bill Cosby's accusers cheered outside the Norristown, Pennsylvania, courthouse on Thursday when they learned he had been convicted on three counts of aggravated indecent assault and could face as much as 30 years in prison — but the amount of jail time he will actually see is an outstanding question.

The maximum sentence for each of the three counts is 10 years, or 30 years in total, meaning the 80-year-old Cosby, who is legally blind and in poor health, could spend the end of his life in prison...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/b...uld-be-sentenced-30-years-prison-it-s-n869646

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Maybe he said "he doesn't own a plane" - thinking everyone will think someone else said it and not him.... :dunno:

I thought this, too, but illeism can be a trait of narcissistic personality disorder.

Definition of illeism

excessive use of the pronoun he especially in reference to oneself

Illeism and Narcissism

https://counsellingresource.com/features/2016/02/01/illeism-and-narcissism/

 

[texaslb218]

That's what I was going to post. It's a mannerism associated with narcissism.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Well now all these Survivors can sue him in civil court for damages, pain and suffering. There will be nothing left of his estate, nor should there be.

A tragedy and disgrace all around. God Bless the Survivors, brave brave women.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I have a question. Is there a source other than Cosby and/or his team that he is legally blind?

 

[proudfootz]

What makes you think Camille supplied drugs to him so he could rape women?

I could not find any testimony or other evidence presented in court that Camille supplied Bill with drugs.

I did find an old article which indicates she has been accused of doing that.

"The same day Bill Cosby hobbled into a Pennsylvania court to be arraigned on ​drugged ​sexual assault charges, his wife’s lawyers filed documents to prevent her from being questioned under oath about her husband’s sexual “proclivities”​ and allegations that she supplied ​him with the pills.

Camille Cosby, 71, is fighting a deposition subpoena filed by a lawyer representing seven women who have accused her comedian husband of sexual assault.

In documents filed Wednesday, her legal team claims that by law she shouldn’t have testify against her spouse.

“She was not present for any of the events alleged in Plaintiffs’ complaint, and her second hand knowledge of events (if any) could only come from private communications with her husband,” the court documents state.

She also denies ever buying sedatives for Cosby, who has admitted to procuring prescription Quaalades to give to women.

“Further, even if Mrs. Cosby ever procured sedatives for her husband — which she never did, and there is no indication that she ever did — the relevant factual issues in this defamation case revolve around the accusations that Defendant secretly drugged some of the Plaintiffs, not where any drugs supposedly came from,” the papers read."


https://pagesix.com/2015/12/31/camille-cosby-doing-all-she-can-not-to-testify-against-bill/

BBM

Even if Camille did supply the drugs, that's not what the case is about? :thinking:

 

[lonetraveler]

I personally do not think that Cosby will ever spend any time in a prison. I may be wrong but right now, that is the way I'm thinking.

 

[jessie]

I have a question. Is there a source other than Cosby and/or his team that he is legally blind?

I'm also interested in having this clarified. Would it influence the sentencing ?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I personally do not think that Cosby will ever spend any time in a prison. I may be wrong but right now, that is the way I'm thinking.

Ditto.

 

[Niner]

Bill Cosby Is Guilty. What’s Next?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/arts/television/bill-cosby-guilty-next-steps.html

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Is Mr. Cosby going to prison?
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How long will Mr. Cosby be free on bail?
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Where might Mr. Cosby serve his sentence?
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What are the grounds for an appeal?
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What happens to the civil suits?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I have a question. Is there a source other than Cosby and/or his team that he is legally blind?

...The maximum sentence for each of the three counts is 10 years, or 30 years in total, meaning the 80-year-old Cosby, who is legally blind and in poor health, could spend the end of his life in prison. (He is currently out on bail and confined to his home while awaiting sentencing.) But legal experts say the maximum sentences are not typically what a defendant will get in Pennsylvania...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/b...uld-be-sentenced-30-years-prison-it-s-n869646

NBC doesn't quote Cosby's lawyers in above comment. A "legally blind" individual can have some residual vision in one or both eyes.

Legal blindness is a level of vision loss that has been legally defined to determine eligibility for benefits. In the United States, this refers to a medically diagnosed central visual acuity of 20/200 or less in the better eye with the best possible correction, and/or a visual field of 20 degrees or less. See the Blue Book Disability Evaluation Under Social Security . Often, people who are diagnosed with legal blindness still have some usable vision.

http://www.afb.org/info/blindness-statistics/key-definitions-of-statistical-terms/25