Bio Mom & her family

[SuziQ]

IMO, the child support issue is the biggest motive I've seen yet. Men kidnap and kill their kids all the time for that very reason. Why shouldn't we think that a mother is capable of doing the same thing?

This is what mothers are capable of. BTW the below article doesn't explain she dressed her little boy up in his favorite cowboy boots and hat and told him he was going to go see Santa:

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special32/articles/0904milke-ON.html

 

[CHICANA]

I was coming here to do the exact same thing SS, because what I want to know is...why ...last week on 2/16 did the state go to the lengths of signing a dismiss document on the child support contempt hearing....I mean, did the bio mom take a break from searching for Haleigh to go down to the courthouse and report that Haleigh was missing so there needs to be a dismissal in the hearing until Haleigh is found? I am confused, could you elaborate and tell me what you think this means. I mean it seems weird to me.

Maybe mom called the courthouse or maybe RC did. I'm sure neither wanted to be in court at the moment.

 

[RJA00]

She could have done everything in her power to get her children back. Taken parenting classes, gotten a stable job, found a place to live, and been responsible in paying her child support to show the court she was trying to be the better parent in the situation.

I have seen women in less fortunate situations fight like hell to win back custody because they loved their children enough. They never missed a court hearing, they never missed an opportunity to show the court they were trying, and they proved they could provide a stable environment.

Most of time parnets fight and turn there lifes around for there children
I was foster parent for 4 years. I have seen a lot of parent change some say it was the best thing that happend to them it made them get there life together.

My husband waited too long to answer the divorce papers and he ex wife was awarded full custody of there son . He did stand up in court and asked for joint custody, Judge told him it was too late he would have to take her back to court.

there was no reason for him not to have joint he just didn't answer the court papers in the 30 days. he saved his money and took her back to court and he was awarded full custody. (well it never went to court ex wife lawyers knew she going to lose so he talked her into signing) she was afraid hubby was going to ask for child support hubby bluffed and told her you drag or son through court i will take what im entitled too (he never would of took her money) he just wanted is son

 

[kiki the parrot]

Kinda makes me wonder why they have not been done. There has been no attempt that I have been able to find that points to her doing anything in the area of legal remedies for the situation. Why not?

At this point, I wouldn't blame Crystal for trying to hide Haleigh so that she could protect her--if that is what she did, even and especially after the fact. JMO, right now.

I've stated possible reasons (for bio mom's failure to challenge custody) in this and/or other threads (can't remember where!) Primarily I think there is the distinct possibility of a woman who's been abused or simply controlled by a domineering man (if that's indeed the case) fearing and not wishing to fight her abuser, not willing to disturb a hornet's nest or risk retaliation, or simply feeling defeated, lacking assertiveness or real hope of changing the court's decision; someone w/ neither the experience nor representation to navigate the legal system nor being aware of the recourse available while lacking the resources are some offered by me previously. But other contributing factors occur to me. She began a new family (and likely chose to do so partially in response to having her children taken from her), and while unhappy w the arrangement may have accepted it, making those payments until having Chloe but now caring for and focusing more on new family. But a woman who's neither shrewd, determined nor assertive enough to explore what remedies are available to her is IMO not likely to undertake much less pull off this kind of risky ambitious scheme. And had bio mom suspected Haleigh was being SA (the only type of abuse that would have been exclusive to her but not Jr.) she could have simply reported this--and had this investigated. But that's JMO. (FWIW I know "someone" who was owed $21K in child support, as are millions of parents in this country, but no one got kidnapped.)
arrot:

 

[elle1919]

Maybe mom called the courthouse or maybe RC did. I'm sure neither wanted to be in court at the moment.

Holy moly, if one of my children....and I do have 4...were to come up missing from their beds the last thing I would be thinking about is getting a court hearing rescheduled or put off until said child returns. Not saying one of the parents didn't do this ....but...weird.

 

[Busylady]

I believe it is Chad's ex wife, at the same time that was dropped there was also an request to modify custody and support. It was finalized in 12/08. I will try and find the documents again.

I'm looking for a link. I want someone to have a look at it and determine if it was a link for a document about Chad.

Please don't think I'm bringing this up for anything other than to be able to look at docs...I am a lover not a fighter!

Anyway the link to that doc shows that an injuction for domestic violence (IIRC) was dropped by the woman that took it out. I didn't recognize her name and the name of the male was Chad. Anyone know where to find that so someone can look at it and determine if it's the fiance? FWIW?

 

[CeeKer]

Huh? We cannot discount facts that are presented before us, in this case. Theres no right or wrong in it. Hearsay, such as what we saw on GR the other night is something we can rightly or wrongly discount, based on what facts we have on hand. This document is a Court Filed Document and if it was filed with the court, there is a follow-up. I see your point, that it's irrellavent to you, because he Maintained custody. To minimize or dismiss allegations as serious as these were regarding the children is not in what is in the best interest of the children.

My point: If allegations were brought forward and not looked into carefully, they may have missed something ... and that is unfortunate for the overall wellbeing of children in the court system.

Later when I return from my shopping_ I am going to compile something in RC thread, regarding a distinctive omission ( I call it a lie) and the judge made the order without looking into something that was brought up at the time of the testifying by mr cummings. Fact or fiction? Fact based on his own testimony. Crystal didnt stand a chance in that hearing. She at the time, didnt appear to have her ducks in a row. imo

Even if I agree with your statement, bolded above, how would you explain the fact that she subsequently retained an attorney, filed a thorough, detailed, motion with the court and, at that point, appeared to not only have her ducks in a row, but was loaded for bear...yet...he maintained custody.

 

[Busylady]

I believe the January documents where Crystals 10 days she was allowed to respond to the 12/27 ruling. If you read thru the documents somewhere it states that the January documents did not alter the Judges 12/27 decision.

Thanks......well now,that give us something else to look out for. Im interested in if there was a follow up hearing or was it cancelled/postponed to a later date??? But those court documents were interesting to read. Very telling.

 

[CeeKer]

I believe the January documents where Crystals 10 days she was allowed to respond to the 12/27 ruling. If you read thru the documents somewhere it states that the January documents did not alter the Judges 12/27 decision.

Thanks!

 

[CeeKer]

Huh? We cannot discount facts that are presented before us, in this case. Theres no right or wrong in it. Hearsay, such as what we saw on GR the other night is something we can rightly or wrongly discount, based on what facts we have on hand. This document is a Court Filed Document and if it was filed with the court, there is a follow-up. I see your point, that it's irrellavent to you, because he Maintained custody. To minimize or dismiss allegations as serious as these were regarding the children is not in what is in the best interest of the children.

My point: If allegations were brought forward and not looked into carefully, they may have missed something ... and that is unfortunate for the overall wellbeing of children in the court system.

Later when I return from my shopping_ I am going to compile something in RC thread, regarding a distinctive omission ( I call it a lie) and the judge made the order without looking into something that was brought up at the time of the testifying by mr cummings. Fact or fiction? Fact based on his own testimony. Crystal didnt stand a chance in that hearing. She at the time, didnt appear to have her ducks in a row. imo

See bold above: Apparently a judge's ruling indicates he was on the very same page ... We can argue till the cows come home, in hindsight, what was really in the best interest of these children. We can discuss ad nauseum abuse/no abuse, drugs/no drugs, IMO it only diverts attention and is an exercise in futility.

 

[Busylady]

I just do not see Crystal as some weak abused woman who was afraid to fight RC because she was afraid of him and decided to go on with a new better life with Chad. Crystal continued to do drugs after her children were born and even during one preg, she got into a relationship with a man who has domestic abuse charges, drug charges, she stopped paying support for the two children, and photos show that she is still active in the drug and drinking lifestyle.

 

[krimekat]

Why would Crystal take one child & not both? She owes child support on both children, I assume . . .

 

[cajun]

Bio Moms BF gives me the willies. I have no idea why, and I have tried to figure out why but I just can't. I might also add that several of these players give me pause however he tops all of them.

I know it's a loose theory however I am not saying that bio mom knows anything about it. IIRC the day after Haleigh was missing Chad bought Crystal on her myspace. Strange to be on myspace when a child is missing. I could see if it was to make a plea for a missing child but that wasn't the case. I don't know, something just isn't sitting right with me when it comes to him.

Does anyone know how long Crystal's mom and and Chad's dad been together? When did they get married?

The first time I saw Chad's picture on CS's myspace page he gave me the willies too. Don't know why, either.

 

[Busylady]

Only thing I can think of is she thought she could get custody of RJ if Haleigh went missing while RC had custody of the children.

Why would Crystal take one child & not both? She owes child support on both children, I assume . . .

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I just do not see Crystal as some weak abused woman who was afraid to fight RC because she was afraid of him and decided to go on with a new better life with Chad. Crystal continued to do drugs after her children were born and even during one preg, she got into a relationship with a man who has domestic abuse charges, drug charges, she stopped paying support for the two children, and photos show that she is still active in the drug and drinking lifestyle.

I had forgotten about the photos. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[radio]

The first time I saw Chad's picture on CS's myspace page he gave me the willies too. Don't know why, either.

hey cajun,

I bet CS can throw a punch - don't you!!!

 

[Jholi]

I just do not see Crystal as some weak abused woman who was afraid to fight RC because she was afraid of him and decided to go on with a new better life with Chad. Crystal continued to do drugs after her children were born and even during one preg, she got into a relationship with a man who has domestic abuse charges, drug charges, she stopped paying support for the two children, and photos show that she is still active in the drug and drinking lifestyle.

Not to beat a dead horse, but so many people are expressing the same ideas I think it's important.

The fact that a woman hooks up with another abusive man is more of a confirmation of prior abuse than a contradiction.

They also commonly will show a seemingly contradictory approach/avoidance cycle of lashing out and reaching out and continuing to seek the approval of those they fear.

There are classic patterns throughout these relationships that are easily identifiable.

Also remember that abusive behavior comes in many forms. I see Crystal as growing up with a man she feared as he daddy and role model of men. Even seeing a father who is cruel to animals can instill that fear.

Even the way Crystal relates to her mother, as well as her responses to the court system (external locus of control), and her affect in general support this. IMO (The usual sedatives/amnestics given at times like this also contribute to the flat affect more than some apparently realize.)

There is also a pattern in the choices of women made by the men that support this.

(Obligatory caveat: This is not to be a commentary on who I think took Haleigh, as nothing would surprise me there. Nor is it a criticism of healthily dominant men, whom I admire very much.)

 

[CeeKer]

Respectfully snipped:

(Snipped for space)

My next question: WAS there a follow up hearing related to January 4th 2006 Motion for Objection of the Findings? If so, I would like to read those as well to see how each parent responded to that particular incident. That would be helpful in clarification of those who are looking for facts. TIA

I noticed Leila had posted this in the Document section, I hadn't noticed it before. It looks like a timeline of the whole custody issue/hearings, etc. all the way till where we are now with the contempt order. Didn't know if it would help in your sleuthing.

UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 2005-09-16
Disposition Date: 2007-11-08
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES
Defendants
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE

2005-09-16
001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF

2005-09-16
002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE

2005-09-16
003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.

2005-09-16
004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER

2005-09-16
005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER

2005-09-16
006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED

2005-09-16
007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005

2005-09-16
.ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221

2005-09-16
.SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05

2005-10-18
012. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER

2005-10-18
012. ANSWER FILED BY RESPONDENT

2005-10-26
008. MOTION TO SET HEARING

2005-10-26
009. MOTION FOR DEFAULT

2005-10-27
010. DEFAULT ENTERED

2005-10-27
011.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE

2005-11-01
013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER

2005-11-01
014.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.

2005-11-01
015. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH

2005-11-01
016.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH

2005-11-01
.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF

2005-11-01
.FILED BY PETITIONER

2005-11-22
017. COPY - NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-01-05 @ 9:00 RMP

2005-11-22
.PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY

2005-12-01
018. FAMILY COURT MIN - PET. PRES, RESP. NOT PRES,

2005-12-01
.C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH

2005-12-01
.FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY

2005-12-01
.RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL

2005-12-01
.FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY

2005-12-01
.WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD

2005-12-01
.VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE

2005-12-01
.CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE

2005-12-01
.VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE

2005-12-01
.STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR

2005-12-01
.FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT

2005-12-05
021.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP

2005-12-05
.PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED

2005-12-05
.PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING

2005-12-05
.PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION

2005-12-05
.ACCORDING TO STANDARD VISITATION SCHEDULE, MOTHER TO

2005-12-05
.PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED

2005-12-05
.BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH

2005-12-05
.CHILDREN

2005-12-05
019. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD

2005-12-05
020.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE - RESPONDENT

2005-12-06
022. FAXED LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO MAGISTRATE IN RE:

2005-12-06
.REHEARING

2005-12-08
023. RETURN TO SENDER - REPORT AND RECOMMEDATION - RESP.

2005-12-13
024. NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-27-05 @ 10:30 RMP - PETITIONERS

2005-12-13
.MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF

2005-12-13
025. ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR REHEARING - RMP -

2005-12-27
026.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF PARENTING CLASS

2005-12-27
RESPONDENT

2005-12-27
027.FAMILY COURT MINUTES

2006-01-03
028.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP

2006-01-06
029. MOTION FOR REHEARING AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS

2006-01-06
OF MAGISTRATE

2006-01-20
030.MOTION TO STRIKE OR DIMISS MOTION FOR REHEARING

2006-01-20
AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER

2006-01-24
031.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30

2006-01-24
EEH-COURTROOM 305

2006-01-25
032.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30-EEH

2006-01-31
033.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION-HUSBAND

2006-02-28
034.FAMILY COURT MINUTES

2006-03-02
035.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00

2006-03-09
036.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER

2006-03-15
037.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30

2006-03-16
038.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30

2006-03-16
SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION

2006-03-16
CENTER

2006-03-20
039.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR

2006-03-20
PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR

2006-03-20
CHILDREN

2006-03-21
040.FAMILY COURT MINUTES

2006-03-22
041.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN

2006-03-22
042.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR

2006-03-22
PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR

2006-03-22
CHILDREN

2006-04-04
043.NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING

2006-04-12
044.NOTICE OF UN-AVAILABILITY-CHARLES BEHM-ESQUIRE

2006-08-17
045.NOTICE OF HEARING - STATUS CONFERENCE

2006-08-17
HRG SET FOR 10/04/06 @ 3:00 - EEH

2006-10-04
046.FAMILY COURT MINUTES-PET NOT PRESENT-R MURPHY PRESENT

2006-10-04
RESP NOT PRESENT-C BEHM PRESENT

2006-12-28
047.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 01/04/017 @ 3:30

2007-01-04
048.NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT - RESPONDENT

2007-01-26
049.NOTICE OF HEARING REGARDING OBJECTIONS TO FINDINGS

2007-01-26
OF MAGISTRATE-HRG SET FOR 02/13/07 @ 2:00 - EEH

2007-02-13
050.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR

2007-02-22
051.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL - BEHM

2007-05-11
052.CORRESPONDENCE FROM NANCY GRIFFIS TO EEH

2007-11-08
053.ORDER APPROVING REPORT/RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAGISTRATE

2007-11-26
FL#200754636011

2008-06-16
054.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08

2009-02-10
055.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30

 

[dellemma]

I think the threat of jail for bio mom's inability to pay back $4100.00 could very well figure into this. It will continue to go up every month at a rate of $325.00. New babies are very expensive and add to that a mom in jail for back child support. How long would it be before they would arrest her on back support in Florida? They were obviously already intercepting money (see the $48.00 prior to the Contempt charge).

With a court hearing on the horizon, desperate times often call for desperate measures.

I know my theories are usually never the popular ones (but my track record is still pretty darn good). Call it fuzzy logic if you want...I simply call things as I see them. I see a family on one side who are sincerely tortured over the loss of Haleigh and on the other I see a family who take a shot at revenge given every opportunity. This raises red flags. The more I find out, the more red flags emerge.

The custody issue is not only contentious...it is raging with fury. Another red flag is noting bio mom has done nothing in court to change it yet they scream wildy about how Ronald should not have these children.

Again, I agree with what you have wrote. I'm not exactly sure how much money is owed in back child support before you can go to jail in Florida, but the ball was certainly rolling in that direction with the court hearing coming up.

 

[cajun]

hey cajun,

I bet CS can throw a punch - don't you!!!

Probably so, don't know many "colorful" women who can't,LOL