Body of missing Oscar Hernandez,13, found in Southern California [Oxnard] - Soccer coach charged

[Lyanna]

Soccer coach's court arraignment postponed in 13-year-old's murder charge

Mario Edgardo Garcia-Aquino's downtown Los Angeles court arraignment was continued Tuesday afternoon. He is being held on zero bail.

www.cbsnews.com

Allegation also made in 2022 per this article

Moo

 

[Deleted member 19575]

Perhaps you misread my post that you quoted. I was responding to someone who said the danger was letting him ride the train alone. My response is that is NOT where the danger was. The danger was being with someone that an after-school soccer program presented to families as being a safe adult. Two entirely different issues.

He wasn't murdered because he rode a train or went to another town. He was murdered because he was groomed by a predator whom he and his family thought was a safe adult to be around. He was a victim of someone he KNEW, his coach was not a stranger. And his parents are victims because they trusted that this program and all the involved adults were safe.

No, I understood. Travelling alone is fine. But he went alone, no one knew this person, no supervision by another adult. The only person there to meet him was a murderer and predator who preyed on vulnerable families.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[LookingForClues]

No, I understood. Travelling alone is fine. But he went alone, no one knew this person, no supervision by another adult. The only person there to meet him was a murderer and predator who preyed on vulnerable families.

I've not read or heard that no one knew the coach. Could you please provide a link?

I hope we all can remember that parents of ALL socioeconomic backgrounds around the world discover their children are sexually abused or murdered by a coach, sports team doctor, Boy Scout leader, teacher, clergy, and so forth -- people trusted by many if not most or all of their community. The background-checks system is broken when it comes to vetting the adults we allow around children. We don't second-guess the parents of U.S. Olympic gymnasts when we hear the team doctor abused them. We don't second-guess churchgoing parents when we hear their kids were abused by their church leader. No, we blame the perpetrator, the predator, and rightfully so!

Don't forget, predators are skilled at burrowing into their community so they have access to kids. They don't just build trust with a couple people or parents, they build trust with ALL the members of the community so they have unfettered access to kids. They create a sterling reputation so everyone trusts them, so word of mouth is "this guy is awesome and does so much for our kids!"

I'm sure all the parents, and everyone involved in running this soccer team, are mortified that this predator walked and played among them.

 

[Iris Moss]

No, I understood. Travelling alone is fine. But he went alone, no one knew this person, no supervision by another adult. The only person there to meet him was a murderer and predator who preyed on vulnerable families.

A murderer and predator who had by all accounts so far, passed a background check and had a clear criminal history.

There's an inherent trust that is baked in when an adult volunteers with an official organization that has a vetting process. It wasn't some random guy from the park that invited Oscar back to his for the night; it was someone who had manipulated his way into a position of authority and trust.

 

[Knox]

the math indeed is very suspect. those two cases, two years apart and 2 and 3 years ago, respectively, have suddenly and conveniently just now had test results come back allowing for charges on those prior bad acts. Post murder of Oscar? I call
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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Department of Homeland Security said a youth soccer coach who was charged with murdering a 13-year old boy whose body was found by the side of a road in Oxnard is an undocumented immigrant.
Soccer coach accused in teen murder is an undocumented immigrant, DHS says

Mario Edgardo Garcia Aquino, 43, was residing in the United States illegally when he allegedly killed teen Oscar Omar Hernandez, “multiple law enforcement sources” told Bill Melugin of Fox News.
Soccer coach accused in teen murder is an undocumented immigrant, DHS says

The LA County Sheriff’s Office, District Attorney’s Office and Los Angeles Police Department have not officially confirmed Garcia Aquino’s immigration status, but unidentified sources also told the Los Angeles Times that the accused killer is in the country illegally.
Youth soccer coach, 43, charged in murder of 13-year-old player, accused of sexually assaulting another boy, is illegal migrant from El Salvador: report

lots of unnamed sources in MSM saying he was here illegally. IF he was undocumented, the problem isn't just a border problem despite how appealing the soundbite must be for Faux news. MOO If true, the problem is also why was the investigation into his other alleged crimes not a priority so that the murder of Oscar could have been prevented? Was it a matter of a "oh well it's just one brown person's committing an alleged crime against another brown person" attitude by LE? By the very DA who is now grandstanding on the topic? I genuinely want to know.

IF Garcia Aquino was undocumented why was he still here to continue harming other young boys and men? Especially after multiple allegations had been made against him in the course of several years.

I guess background checks don’t include the use of e verify?

Sadly it’s too late for Oscar, but the best way to honor his life will be to change the way we safeguard our children. The background investigation protocol needs to be overhauled.

 

[Knox]

I've not read or heard that no one knew the coach. Could you please provide a link?

I hope we all can remember that parents of ALL socioeconomic backgrounds around the world discover their children are sexually abused or murdered by a coach, sports team doctor, Boy Scout leader, teacher, clergy, and so forth -- people trusted by many if not most or all of their community. The background-checks system is broken when it comes to vetting the adults we allow around children. We don't second-guess the parents of U.S. Olympic gymnasts when we hear the team doctor abused them. We don't second-guess churchgoing parents when we hear their kids were abused by their church leader. No, we blame the perpetrator, the predator, and rightfully so!

Don't forget, predators are skilled at burrowing into their community so they have access to kids. They don't just build trust with a couple people or parents, they build trust with ALL the members of the community so they have unfettered access to kids. They create a sterling reputation so everyone trusts them, so word of mouth is "this guy is awesome and does so much for our kids!"

I'm sure all the parents, and everyone involved in running this soccer team, are mortified that this predator walked and played among them.

Why are socioeconomic backgrounds and different categories of victims being called out?

Oscar and his family were specifically targeted and groomed by a sexual predator. I don’t think that needs to be defined any further.

 

[tlcya]

“We had that person at our home,” Alejandra said. “He even helped us look for Oscar. We never thought he would harm him.”

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/so...issing-southern-california-boy-13-found-dead/

 

[tlcya]

Oscar’s family, who had grown to trust the coach – who had even visited the family’s home in Sun Valley – became worried when Oscar failed to return home and didn’t answer repeated calls to his cell phone the next day. They reported him missing on March 30, according to LA County District Attorney Nathan Hochman.
Family of 13-Year-Old Sun Valley Boy Found Murdered Last Week Wants ‘Justice’ - The San Fernando Valley Sun

doesn't sound as if they didn't know the accused. They knew him enough to have him at their home, they knew he was presented as a coach with the Huracan Valley boys’ soccer club by that organization. Apparently nobody knew he was a predator so in that sense - no, they didn't "know" him. But he wasn't some stranger to them. They took him as who he was presented to them by the club. They interacted with him, even invited him to their home.

 

[mickey2942]

Aren't people who work with children subject to a full background check? Especially a youth soccer coach.

California youth soccer coach charged in death of 13-year-old boy

Oscar Omar Hernandez, 13, was reported missing after visiting his soccer coach. His body was found last week on the side of a road in Southern California.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[tlcya]

Aren't people who work with children subject to a full background check? Especially a youth soccer coach.

California youth soccer coach charged in death of 13-year-old boy

Oscar Omar Hernandez, 13, was reported missing after visiting his soccer coach. His body was found last week on the side of a road in Southern California.

www.nbcnews.com

One would think huh

 

[LookingForClues]

Why are socioeconomic backgrounds and different categories of victims being called out?

Oscar and his family were specifically targeted and groomed by a sexual predator. I don’t think that needs to be defined any further.

That's what I was trying to say, but apparently my thoughts were lost in my less than eloquent ramblings. I quoted a specific post and I was comparing reactions to this case versus other cases, and trying to remind people it's the predator who is to blame. Predators are skilled at tricking not just parents, but entire communities, and it happens everywhere around the world, to people of all backgrounds.

Oscar, his parents, and his family were targeted and are all victims. I'm sure we'll hear about more victims. I'm guessing the entire community is reeling, as well.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

[dulcinea]

Aren't people who work with children subject to a full background check? Especially a youth soccer coach.

California youth soccer coach charged in death of 13-year-old boy

Oscar Omar Hernandez, 13, was reported missing after visiting his soccer coach. His body was found last week on the side of a road in Southern California.

www.nbcnews.com

This is where I am a bit confused, as well.
1. If he was here illegally, as has been stated in some of the posted articles, would that not show up on a background check? I *assume* then that he would not be allowed to coach/mentor. However, that is just my assumption. I *assume* there would be issues with that.
2. If someone is arrested but NOT charged, I *assume* that does not show up on a background check. Perhaps it depends on the type of background check? (Presumption of innocence type of thing?)

As teachers, mentors, and coaches, my husband, son and I have gone through countless background checks. However, none of us have anything questionable in our past, so I don't know what that looks like on a background check.

 

[Knox]

That's what I was trying to say, but apparently my thoughts were lost in my less than eloquent ramblings. I quoted a specific post and I was comparing reactions to this case versus other cases, and trying to remind people it's the predator who is to blame. Predators are skilled at tricking not just parents, but entire communities, and it happens everywhere around the world, to people of all backgrounds.

Oscar, his parents, and his family were targeted and are all victims. I'm sure we'll hear about more victims. I'm guessing the entire community is reeling, as well.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Thank you for clarifying, I didn’t read what you were responding too I guess- my apologies for that.

 

[TMich6811]

This is where I am a bit confused, as well.
1. If he was here illegally, as has been stated in some of the posted articles, would that not show up on a background check? I *assume* then that he would not be allowed to coach/mentor. However, that is just my assumption. I *assume* there would be issues with that.
2. If someone is arrested but NOT charged, I *assume* that does not show up on a background check. Perhaps it depends on the type of background check? (Presumption of innocence type of thing?)

As teachers, mentors, and coaches, my husband, son and I have gone through countless background checks. However, none of us have anything questionable in our past, so I don't know what that looks like on a background check.

Arrests without charges do not show up on most background checks.

I can’t speak to why they allowed it if he were here illegally because I don’t even know how they could have done an accurate background check

 

[Knox]

This is where I am a bit confused, as well.
1. If he was here illegally, as has been stated in some of the posted articles, would that not show up on a background check? I *assume* then that he would not be allowed to coach/mentor. However, that is just my assumption. I *assume* there would be issues with that.
2. If someone is arrested but NOT charged, I *assume* that does not show up on a background check. Perhaps it depends on the type of background check? (Presumption of innocence type of thing?)

As teachers, mentors, and coaches, my husband, son and I have gone through countless background checks. However, none of us have anything questionable in our past, so I don't know what that looks like on a background check.

I think an arrest shows up after a period of time regardless of conviction status. If the case is dismissed, the record still exists - basing this on many, many, years of looking at court records here at WS. But they would need to check local records, not just national. I don’t think all do?

As for legal status, it looks like they only verify the social security number matches the card copy provided. If he provided false information, even if they use E Verify it’s only looking for a name/number match, not immigration status. I did a little research today and that’s what I understand, feel free to correct me.

Far more people who are actually legal citizens commit heinous murders daily.

 

[TMich6811]

I think an arrest shows up after a period of time regardless of conviction status. If the case is dismissed, the record still exists - basing this on many, many, years of looking at court records here at WS. But they would need to check local records, not just national. I don’t think all do?

As for legal status, it looks like they only verify the social security number matches the card copy provided. If he provided false information, even if they use E Verify it’s only looking for a name/number match, not immigration status. I did a little research today and that’s what I understand, feel free to correct me.

Far more people who are actually legal citizens commit heinous murders daily.

I just want to clarify here that a background check doesn’t (typically) pull the same information as pulling a criminal record directly would for being in contact with a child, each background check is very unique in these situation

 

[Knox]

I just want to clarify here that a background check doesn’t (typically) pull the same information as pulling a criminal record directly would for being in contact with a child

I work with kids at Church. Just pinged our youth leader and asked the question. My California background check included a criminal record check. So you’re saying a coach working with kids does not?

 

[TMich6811]

No that’s not even remotely what I said. I said the background check ran for employment or volunteer often looks different than a just criminal background check and wouldn’t always include arrests, that’s very location dependent.

I said this earlier - I run a behavioral health agency in a state that requires every employee have 3 different background checks because all 3 of them have different information and not one of the three include arrests

 

[mickey2942]

I just want to clarify here that a background check doesn’t (typically) pull the same information as pulling a criminal record directly would for being in contact with a child, each background check is very unique in these situation

Yes. I am interested if he provided fake ID, a lot of people do that. So, a background check wouldn't have pulled anything up. If they just did the basic I-9. Verifying information provided.

The NCIC full background check, and FBI, requires fingerprints submitted electronically at the time of the background check. That would have completely different. Especially if he was already in the DHS database with fingerprints. It would have busted him, using a fake ID. The NCIC also releases any LEO contact, not just convictions.