Bosma Murder Trial 02.02.16 - Day 2

[matou]

Halton Police photo, truck seized from Kleinburg, May 15/13, 2:17 pm, Halton Police I.D. LM3-4188. PowerPoint No. 7 (Slide 12, Image 9) from CD Exhibit 2, Bosma murder trial Day 1, Feb. 1, 2016.

http://media.zuza.com/8/4/84871b1b-....1_20160202174527_000_GHC1KF5IQ.2_Gallery.jpg

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6257741-two-men-shot-bosma-in-his-truck-crown-tells-trial/

 

[matou]

Note the stylish "D" as his signature on the fingerprint slide.

 

[missberry]

Since the incinerator was cleaned out, I wonder who cleaned it out and where any other remains were placed if there was bones that didn't become ash. I remember that CBC ran that story about more remains found on the farm.

I've been wondering the same thing. I thought there was burn marks on the ground at the farm but perhaps i'm remembering that wrong. And the seats from the truck that were scorched...did they fit somehow in the incinerator or was there some sort of bonfire to burn things? I'm curious to find out.

 

[Tamarind]

Regarding the question of whether someone really did drop them off at TB's that night, or they drove themselves, I note the Crown's opening statement states MS's girlfriend "told police she remembered Mr. Millard picked up Mr. Smich on May 6, 2013 which would have been before they made their way to Ancaster to see Tim Bosma's truck."

I presume she will be called as a witness, so I'll be interested to hear what time DM picked up MS, and in what vehicle.

OR who was with him. There was obviously a third ( or fourth or fifth party) who traveled to Ancaster, if they were dropped off as suggested.

 

[matou]

I've been wondering the same thing. I thought there was burn marks on the ground at the farm but perhaps i'm remembering that wrong. And the seats from the truck that were scorched...did they fit somehow in the incinerator or was there some sort of bonfire to burn things? I'm curious to find out.

I think he or "they" burned the car seats in the open based on the info you brought up.

 

[Alice Ramnit]

I'm a lefty, but some of us shoot righthanded. It has alot to do with the dominant eye (same for batting in baseball), but also can be affected by things like joint problems, for example. (I have arthritis in my hands and find it very hard to rail a gun (slide back the loading mechanism) with my right hand, so I fire a semiautomatic with my right hand. I can easily see DM pulling a weapon with his left hand and firing across his body with very little turning required. I think this is what he did, and that TB never saw it coming. I hope I'm right.

My hubby is a leftie and he just showed me how he could cross his dominant arm in front of his face and easily shoot a victim who was seated to his right.

 

[swedie]

Would it take only one bullet to kill TB at close range? Small bullets for a small gun? I'm worried he was shot and just bled to death in the car. Sorry.

IMO if the gun was put to the side of his head, close range, one bullet would most likely would have killed him instantly. It seems apparent the bullet travelled right through his head and exited in order for it to shatter the passenger side window. If that was the case, I highly doubt TB suffered.

My apologizes if this has already been brought up, as I haven't read any of today's thread yet, but this was on my mind. IMO this information presented by the Crown during opening statements, and will be backed up with solid, scientific evidence, will show whoever was in the driver's seat was the shooter of TB. We know from SB and WD's testimony, DM was in the driver's seat when they pulled out of the Bosma's driveway. MOO.

Crown's Opening Statement
Significant amounts of gunshot reside were found on the inside of the truck, with especially high concentrates in the front seat area, both passenger side ceiling and driver's side ceiling.

Futher forensic examination found the blood DNA of Tim Bosma on the inside of the truck in various areas including the inside rear passenger door; rear passenger armrest; around the glove box; and front passenger cup holder.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/297563969/Crown-s-opening-address-in-Tim-Bosma-murder-trial

 

[MsSherlock]

OR who was with him. There was obviously a third ( or fourth or fifth party) who traveled to Ancaster, if they were dropped off as suggested.

Well time will tell. IMHO, there was never a 3rd, 4th or 5th person. Rather, I believe that we'll learn that MS was only in TB's truck for seconds before he got behind the wheel of the Yukon. I guess if they picked up MS's finger prints on the steering wheel of the Yukon that LE's early theory may hold water. MOO

"However, Staff. Sgt. Kavanagh said investigators do not know who was driving the SUV and are probing the possibility that it was Mr. Smich."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ird-suspect-in-bosma-killing/article12370401/

 

[matou]

These two would have been covered in blood from shooting TB as would the windows and the inside of the truck. How long is the drive from Ancaster to the Hangar? Did they bring extra clothing/towels with them to change into and to wipe up blood? Is that what the "knapsack" was for?

 

[Variant]

Directly from the court transcript:




http://www.scribd.com/doc/297563969/Crown-s-opening-address-in-Tim-Bosma-murder-trial

From the same transcript:

"Significant amounts of gunshot residue were found on the inside of the truck with especially high concentrations in the front seat area, both passenger side ceiling and driver's side ceiling."

This would support the scenario of the person in the driver's seat shooting the gun. A left-hander holding his arm across his chest could shoot the passenger and the passenger window. As stated by others the recoil of these pistols is low so it could be done even while driving without causing loss of control.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I find it more odd that he's sitting as a defendant in a first degree murder trial smiling. That's nothing to be taken lightly. He knows what is at stake and he acts like that? It shows the callousness.
While it's not the most appropriate arena for laughter, these people are just simply remembering TB how he was, how people regarded him. It's allowing them to find some sort of solace in a trying time.

This, right here. Even if, on some other planet in some parallel reality, DM was 100% innocent, as a normal human being (you know, the kind with a soul, and a heart) he would not only be angry for being accused of a crime he didn't commit, he would show (one would think?) some compassion for the widow of the man he was being accused of killing.

So far, nothing I've seen on twitter from those who are watching him, he has expressed nothing but an attitude of "hey, welcome to my party!". You really do need to be a special kind of evil to sit through your own murder trial and grin and make eyes at people. Reminds me of Richard Ramirez.

 

[jash]

In re-reading the Crown's opening statement, it dawned on me that poor TB's body was probably already inside the incinerator when it was towed to the hangar. There was mention of the video footage showing TB's truck pulling up to the hangar towing the incinerator (and with what is likely DM's Yukon following behind), as well as the footage showing the incinerator being ignited. No mention of TB on the video.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/297569867/Crown-s-opening-address

 

[Gibson67]

.380 could easily be shot with his non dominant hand. Especially because he was at very close range. It has very little recoil so I don't think it would matter which hand. I also know it was likely shot with one hand as for most men the gun is too small to hold comfortably with two.

I assume that Millard's lawyer is going to argue that Smich pulled the gun from his hoodie pouch and reached around the seat and shot him. Which neither Millard or Tim saw coming.


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when I read the opening statements for today..I was almost thinking this might be what happened..if Smitch did point the gun to the side of Tim's head and pull the trigger..this would also blow out the window and present gun residue on the ceiling of the truck as the trigger was pulled in the front seat..

 

[jash]

These two would have been covered in blood from shooting TB as would the windows and the inside of the truck. How long is the drive from Ancaster to the Hangar? Did they bring extra clothing/towels with them to change into and to wipe up blood? Is that what the "knapsack" was for?

Or did they clean up at the farm in Ayr when they went to get the incinerator?

This whole thing is so horrible. I knew it would be, but still wasn't prepared.

 

[Kamille]

Note the stylish "D" as his signature on the fingerprint slide.

Well he wrote that they call him "Big D" down at the jail.

 

[Tamarind]

There is no 'outright laughter', only faint little chuckles, along with SB's, wife as she fondly remembered things about her husband during happier times during her testimony. SB is the sweetheart here, and if she makes a comment she finds a little humorous, the courtroom isn't going to argue.

Imo it is inappropriate for the accused in a murder trial to smile at anyone, perhaps with the exception of his own legal counsel, or the judge. To smile at potential jurors, jurors, witnesses, and/or the murder victim's family members is simply not appropriate, it is intimidating, whether it is a simple smile or a cheesy grin.

My point was/is that we have no actual idea of what his smile was like. If we are going by tweets, all are subject to interpretation. My interpretation of courtroom laughter is valid, just as someone elses interpretation of DM's smile is valid. It doesn't mean either interpretation is correct. HTH. I don't know SB, so I can't comment on what she is or isn't. I am simply trying to follow the case with what information is provided. I don't see how an accused smiling at his family/friends is a bad thing. If he was crying or staring into space I think he would still be getting negative reports. JMO IMHO

 

[ADAWG]

Shooting someone dead while driving would cause an accident. The force from a gun and trying to hold a car steady, being spattered with blood and flesh, doesn't seem feasible to me. JMO

Not with .380 caliber gun. There is very little recoil with it. It's one of the first guns they teach you to shoot with as the recoil is so little it won't intimidate people. It's actually a gun they recommend for a small woman for self defense for it's ease of use. It could be shot no issue with one hand while driving.


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[jash]

Regarding the employee who took photos of TB's truck/VIN at the hangar and called Crimestoppers, per the Crown's opening statement, Brantford police acted on the tip. Could that be a clue as to the identity of the employee? (SS lived in Brantford)

Having never called myself, is there an option to reveal your identity if you so choose?

ETA: I'm wondering if this is the same "mechanic/employee" who was asked by DM to remove the decals and other identifiers from the truck in preparation for the paint makeover. It would explain why DM didn't try to hide the truck... he was either counting on the employee not having heard about Tim Bosma, or not caring.

 

[matou]

So it's the "sketchy" guy versus "The Leader" based on crosses by the defense lawyers. LOL. I love how Smich looks at his lawyer when it's obvious that DM wants to rattle him.

 

[Ontario Mom]

when I read the opening statements for today..I was almost thinking this might be what happened..if Smitch did point the gun to the side of Tim's head and pull the trigger..this would also blow out the window and present gun residue on the ceiling of the truck as the trigger was pulled in the front seat..

I know absolutely nothing about gun residue or trajectory but it seems unlikely at that angle (MS in the back, holding the gun toward TB's left side) there would be significant gun residue on the ceiling the driver's side of the front seat. Passenger side yes, but not the driver's side.