Bosma Murder Trial 02.03.16 - Day 3

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:18 PM
Rogers (the cell provider) gave Jackson a series of tower locations that Millard’s phone had been using that day prior to and after Bosma vanished.

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:15 PM
The sources said they believed that Dellen Millard had that tattoo. He ran Millard's cell records for the 6th of May on Millard's phone, the day Bosma disappeared.

 

[Kamille]

Interesting timeline developing. If the burner phone was turned off when they left the driveway (or shortly before or after) at 9:23pm and Tim's phone was turned off at 10:03pm....once you factor in the approximately 32 minutes of drive time we are now down to only 8 minutes of missing time. If the hypothesis is that he was killed shortly after leaving the driveway and before they picked up the trailing vehicle...they had 8 minutes to work with. That is just one of the theories that has been bounced around. It is going to be very interesting once we see what surveillance video from the business at the end of Trinity Rd show, if anything.

You have to remember that LE also said that his phone was turned off "shortly after he left home" and it turned out to be more like 40 minutes after. So take the word "shortly" with a grain of salt. They also spent an hour in the Brantford area. I think I'd be focusing on that time frame.

MOO

 

[Sillybilly]

Someone did raise an interesting point in the Day 1 thread. Where LE found Tim's phone was about a 2 minute drive from the Brantford Airport. Does it stand to reason that he would have had dealings with anyone at the Brantford Airport and he would have been familiar with the route back to Kitchener/Waterloo? MOO

<rsbm>

It was at the Brantford Airport that DM witnessed an accident:

see:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...klehurst.com/page/8+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

"Brantford Airport Accident Witnessed by Dellen Millard: Ministry of Labour Report"

 

[redheart]

lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 3s3 seconds ago
#HamOnt police got #DellenMillard cell phone info. It "pinged" off same cell towers as the phone that called #TimBosma to arrange test drive

Millard is even dumber than we thought.

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:20 PM
&#8220;They were very similar &#8211; travelling from Etobicoke to Ancaster," Jackson says.

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:19 PM
&#8220;Mr. Bosma was still missing at that time. It provided the investigative team investigations we could check. Also, the phone towers were very similar to the Lucas Bate phone," Jackson says.

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:19 PM
Here are the locations:
5:13 p.m. in Etobicoke, also at 5:53 p.m.
7:59 p.m. in Oakville also 8:13 p.m.
At 9:02 p.m. the phone was in Ancaster.
At 9:44 it was in Brantford
At 11:48 p.m. it was in Cambridge

 

[inbetweendoors]

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 3m3 minutes ago
After Ancaster, #Millard's phone hot towers in Brantford, Cambridge. Sgt. Jackson says that was significant because #TimBosma still missing

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 4m4 minutes ago
Rogers told Sgt. Jackson #Millard's phone pinged off towers in Etobicoke in late afternoon, evening in Oakville, late evening in Ancaster...

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 5m5 minutes ago
Jackson finds #Millard's cell number. Says he contacted Rogers to find history of use on Millard's phone.

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 6m6 minutes ago
... Court silent except for sound of Sgt. Jackson flipping through his notes. #MillardSmich

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
...

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Sgt. Jackson says over course of investigation he learned #Millard's phone number. Searching notes for it now.

 

[ADAWG]

I'm getting the impression their phones were turned off before they went to Tim's place. There is no information about their own personal phones. The burner phone appears to have been turned off at 9:23pm. Probably just as they were leaving the driveway. The argument now is the activity on the burner phone prior to 9:04pm when they arrived at Tim's.

MOO

Here is where I got that info. It was from the Crown's opening address on Day 1

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 2m2 minutes ago
Crown says cellphone records show both #Millard & Smich were in "close proximity to #TimBosma home" at time of alleged abduction.
Peter Akman &#8207;@PeterAkmanCTV 3m3 minutes ago
Crown - both cellphones of #DellenMillard and #marksmich tracked towards #TimBosma's home. Both turned off at same time. @CTVNews

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:21 PM
Court now seeing phone records from purchase. It was a pay as you go phone, paid for in cash.

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

My thoughts then and now regarding the size of the computer seizure is just that DM was a rich kid and a video gamer who had a lot of toys. Not that it implied a huge crime ring.

I am curious what was found on the computers at the hangar as well. With regards to that gaming site he went to...I wonder if it kept a record of any chat?

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:22 PM
&#8220;We couldn&#8217;t actually identify who Lucas Bate was or find Lucas Bate," Jackson said.

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:21 PM
The address given on the phone records for the Bate phone purchase was actually a high school - Lakeshore Collegiate. There was no Lucas Bate at that school.

 

[ArianeEmory]

lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 3s3 seconds ago
#HamOnt police got #DellenMillard cell phone info. It "pinged" off same cell towers as the phone that called #TimBosma to arrange test drive

Millard is even dumber than we thought.

I just read through the subsequent, even more detailed cellphone movement history after your post, and I still can't think of a better quote than the above.

 

[Kamille]

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Hamilton, Ontario
Crown entering new exhibit - purchase receipt of cellphone sold to 'Lucas Bate' a prepaid account, meaning there's no billing #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
#HamOnt police got #DellenMillard cell phone info. It "pinged" off same cell towers as the phone that called #TimBosma to arrange test drive

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Hamilton, Ontario
'Lucas Bate' cellphone was paid full in cash on March 11, 2013. Video surveillance at store only kept for 20-30 days #TimBosma

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Hamilton, Ontario
Sgt Jackson said they could not identify who 'Lucas Bate' was. Address given to cellphone store was a fake - from a school #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Court is looking at bill for phone that called #TimBosma for test drive. It's a prepaid phone sold to a "Lucas Bate" at a fake address.

NEWSTALK1010Verified account &#8207;@newstalk1010 1m1 minute ago
That phone bill was registered to Lakeshore Collegiate in Etobicoke on Kipling Ave. Police found no "Lucas Bate" there. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin &#8207;@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Hamilton, Ontario
Sgt Jackson pulled additional phone records from 'Lucas Bates' phone - one number tied to Waterloo #TimBosma

Nicole Martin &#8207;@nmartinCHCH 3m3 minutes ago
Sgt Jackson says they found another name and number belonging to a man named Dennis Araujo from Waterloo. @CHCHNews

Nicole Martin &#8207;@nmartinCHCH 53s53 seconds ago
While police went to Waterloo to see Araujo, Sgt Jackson asked officers to go to MillardAir to speak with Dellen @CHCHNews #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account &#8207;@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Jackson sent officers to an airport hangar in Waterloo to look for Dellen Millard. #Bosma

Nicole Martin &#8207;@nmartinCHCH 2m2 minutes ago
Sgt Jackson said he wanted officers to see if Dellen was there and to confirm physical description and tattoo @CHCHNews

Nicole Martin &#8207;@nmartinCHCH 47s48 seconds ago
MillardAir is located on Fountain St in Woolwich...last place Millard's phone "pinged" the night #Bosma was killed @CHCHNews

 

[Honey_West]

I'd like to know when the burner phone was registered.

 

[inbetweendoors]

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 2m2 minutes ago
Lakeshore CI is the school the address registered to the "Lucas Bate" phone led @HamiltonPolice to. #MillardSmich

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 3m3 minutes ago
The address on the invoice, 350 Kipling, was for a school in Etobicoke. Not a residential address. No "Lucas Bate" there. #MillardSmich

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 5m5 minutes ago
Sale made via cash on March 11, 2013. Purchase of phone, Wind Mobile prepaid time. #MillardSmich

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 6m6 minutes ago
We see the invoice for purchases from Etobicoke phone store "Mobile Tech" again..."Bill To: Lucas Bate" #MillardSmich

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Sgt. Jackson says the pattern of #Millard's phone was similar to locations pinged on "Bate" phone. "Very similar...Etobicoke-Ancaster."

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:26 PM
Another number of interest for police went to a Dennis Araujo in Waterloo.

 

[inbetweendoors]

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 37s38 seconds ago
This led to police to an air hangar in Waterloo (MillardAir), where officers were asked to look for #Millard there. #MillardSmich

Mark Carcasole &#8207;@MarkCarcGlobal 2m2 minutes ago
Sgt. Jackson says investigators then focused on a 519 number in the records of the "Bate" phone. Had investigators speak to owner...#Millard

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:29 PM
Jackson left the investigation at the end of 2013.

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:28 PM
Police went to the airport hangar in Waterloo that Millard had an association with, Jackson says. They wanted to check his description and see about the "ambition" tattoo.

 

[ArianeEmory]

No reports today of DM's behavior, I guess someone convinced him it was in his best interest to calm down with the creepster stuff.

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

I'd like to know when the burner phone was registered.

And did it follow DM's own phone as well? Translation: On other days the phone was used, did the cell tower data line up with DM's personal phone's movements as well? Once could be a fluke...multiple times...not so fluky.

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:29 PM
Next witness is Det. Sgt. Paul Hamilton from Hamilton Police.

Adam Carter
Feb 3 2016 12:29 PM
Millard's and Smich's lawyers don't cross examine. Jackson is done.