Bosma Murder Trial 05.04.16 - Day 45

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
She said detectives told her it was "an international case and very high profile."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
She said detectives told her it was "an international case and very high profile."\

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Noudga's notes show she thought it was "high profile." "Even more reason to tell police," says Noudga. She claims she didn't think to.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Why did she have to write these things down? "I don't know, I just did."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey asks what the purpose of writing this all down was. She says she doesn't know. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 7m7 minutes ago
Her notes said "country, leave?" She says she wanted to leave the country to study...Dungey asks why she writes all this stuff down.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Some of Noudga's notes refer to leaving country. She says that was because she has plans to study abroad. #MillardSmich

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 7m7 minutes ago
Dungee; "u didn't thk police wld want to know that?" CN; "he didn't try to frame anyone in my opinion" @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey suggests she knew she'd be interrogated. She says she didn't, because she'd already told them she was not making a statement. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Maybe because she knew she was going to be interrogated by police? No she just knew they wanted her to make a statement

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"Why wor you write this down?" Dungey asks. "I don't know" Noudga says. He suggest she did because she knew she would be interrogated.#Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 7m7 minutes ago
She denies it. #Bosma

 

[Velma]

Possibly that this case had gained international attention? Because, it certainly did.

True, sorry, I was thinking about elements of the case itself being international.

 

[mozzagirl]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 5m5 minutes ago
Noudga now says she didn't know that police would be interested in the letters. "I thought the police would be more interested in the truth"

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 5m5 minutes ago
The gallery snickers. #Bosma


:happydance:Hehehehe. Did she just slip up a little and admit she knew at the time that everything in those letters wasn't the truth??

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Another note: "letter of immunity - name will never go to the public. What happens with trailer?" #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"letter of immunity" "name never goes public" "what happens to trailer?" Noudga is saying these were concerns

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says "I dunno" why she writes stuff down. She just does. Notes say "immunity." Noudga says solicitor/client privilege applies there.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
"Looking back it was really stupid," to wipe prints off trailer that held #TimBosma truck, parked in Millard mom's drive

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
She says re: immunity she can't comment bc of solicitor client privilege. Re: trailer she says she didn't want to be involved. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 7m7 minutes ago
Re: wiping prints off trailer Noudga says "looking back on it, it was really stupid, I should've left it alone." #MillardSmich

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 8m8 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga now says it was 'really stupid' of her to wipe down Millard's trailer #Bomsa

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey suggests re:trailer in wiping her prints she was also wiping away Dellen's. She says she didn't take that into consideration. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
She wiped the locks on the trailer because she had checked to make sure they were locked. And she wiped back of trailer where Burns touched.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
She was also wiping Millard's prints, Dungey points out. "At the time I didn't take that into consideration." Dungey laughs at that answer

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
"This is Dell's mess not mine," she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"This is Dell's mess, not mine," Noudga says.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 8m8 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
She maintains she was only worried about HER fingerprints. 'It was Dell's mess, not mine.' #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"This is Dell's mess, not mine," is what she thought when she wiped her prints, Noudga says. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey suggests that Noudga was also wiping #Millard's prints off of trailer when she was wiping her own. Noudga says she didn't consider

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Going back to fingerprints. Noudga says she never considered she'd be destroying Millard's fingerprints along with her own. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Another note: "I will not put Dell in jeopardy." She says she didn't want to give police evidence of him using drugs etc. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"I will not put Dell in jeopardy, along with others," Noudga wrote. She tells jury she's worried about drug evidence.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
Notes: "I will not talk, Dell in jeopardy." She says she didn't want to tell the police about Dell's drugs.

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says she wasn't concerned about #Millard's prints on trailer because "this is Dell's mess, not mine."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"This was Dell's mess not mine," she says. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 8m8 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga writes in another note, 'I will not talk, put Dell in jeopardy' #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
You're talking about drugs and not the death of #TimBosma? Dungey, incredulous

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey says "this isn't about drugs--this is about the death of Tim #Bosma." She says that's not what she was writing about. #Bosma

 

[mozzagirl]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 5m5 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga 'He never tried to frame anyone, in my opinion' tells the court #Bosma

But not even an hour ago she said this...

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 10m10 minutes ago
"He wasn't always talking about framing Mark," she says. #Bosma

So which is it CN?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says she was hesitant to talk to police because she didn't want to tell them about #Millard's involvement in drugs.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
She says she doesn't know if when she wrote this she knew he was charged with murder, and insists her note is about drugs. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
But agrees with Dungey she at least knew he was charged with theft and forcible confinement. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"You're talking about the drugs and not the death of Tim #Bosma?" asks Dungey. Noudga says she didn't know yet Millard charged with murder.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
She says she didn't want to say anything against her boyfriend in her writings, but Noudga says that was only because of the drugs. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga isn't sure if Millard was charged with murder or forcible confinement and theft at that point. She seems to think an NB distinction

 

[redheart]

CN is very obviously protecting MB. She takes great care to say every time that it was both their decision to wipe prints. Why? My guess is the gravy train is still chugging along. $$$

 

[Velma]

Noudga says it was Millard's idea for them to go to B.C.
by Adam Carter 11:21 AM

Noudga also wrote "leave country" but she says she wasn't thinking about leaving to get away from this.
by Adam Carter 11:21 AM

"Not manipulative. She knew nothing. Might have screwed that up by staying with her," Noudga wrote about staying with Burns.
by Adam Carter 11:22 AM

"My parents kept trying to persuade me the reason I wiped down the trailer was I was being manipulated," she says.
by Adam Carter 11:22 AM

"We didn't remove any evidence, we just removed our touching the trailer," Noudga says. "At the time we didn't see it as evidence." Dungey asks why she would wipe that down if she didn't think it was evidence. She again says she didn't think it was evidence, and the court outright laughs at her response.
by Adam Carter 11:24 AM

Dungey says he's having a little trouble understanding how Noudga and Burns could be concerned about their fingerprints, but supposedly not Millard's.
by Adam Carter 11:25 AM

The courtroom just laughed at Noudga's response again.
by Adam Carter 11:25 AM

"I wiped off my prints, I don't know where else he touched," Noudga says. In her notes she wrote, "they cannot prove it because no prints."
by Adam Carter 11:26 AM

Court again laughs at Noudga. Justice Goodman calls for order.
by Adam Carter 11:27 AM

 

[Nosey Parker]

Right about now she's stepped into a trap.

Did the 'rabbit' get away?

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
She says she wasn't watching the media. She was "too distraught to look into it." #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey points out police are talking about Tim #Bosma's murder. Not drugs. Noudga says #Millard wasn't charged w murder at the time.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey says he'll come back to that later. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
CN "what happens to trailer" Noudga says she was worried she'd get in trouble for wiping prints. "It was really stupid" @AM900CHML

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
And not because of #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says when she and Burns went to hotel after Millard's arrest they didn't look at media and didn't know about Tim #Bosma.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
She and Madeleine Burns (Millard mother) didn't watch media when they spent a post-arrest weekend together drinking wine at hotel

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
"So when you wrote that (note), you were thinking about drugs? That's your evidence?" Dungey asks.
"Yup," she says. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
Another note she references text btwn them about "heading west." She writes "not good." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
She says yeah bc it was a trip to go out west to smoke a ton of illicit drugs. "So ya, not really legal." #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
Dungee points out DM prints were on locks. Wiped off."I suppose in a sense" she says. "This is Dells mess-not mine."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
Notes about going to BC for marijuana. Planned "to smoke a ton of illicit drugs," she tells court. She smoked drugs all the time, she says.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
"It's just not a good picture to portray," she says. Dungey suggests it's because she knew they'd want to bring drugs back. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"We were going out west to smoke a ton of drugs, it's clearly not legal," Noudga sneers at Q about why she worried about BC trip.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
Her writings mention a trip to BC she makes a contemptuous face at Dungey when he asks about it. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
She agrees if the opportunity presented itself they probably would've but "nobody can really say." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
"We were going to smoke a lot of illicit drugs," she says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
And they had hoped to bring drugs back from BC. Notes says "not good, jeopardizes him and me."

 

[mozzagirl]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 7m7 minutes ago
She makes notes about "repercussions" "leave country" "friends" :"high profile case"

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Another note. Heading "repercussions." Under that, she mentions leaving the country. and that it's a high profile case. #Bosma

IMO, leaving the country over wiping prints off a trailer seems extreme. She 10000% had more involvement and was freaking out. :jail:

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
CN wiping of prints were for her concern only. She also didn't go to police night of DM arrest. Worries they'd find about drugs. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
She says it wasn't agreed upon, but that it probably would've happened. "We probably would've smoked it along the way." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey suggests she was going to bring drugs back. She denies it. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga notes continue to wonder how long people will chase her. She wanted to study abroad. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
More notes about statement. "Will they pursue me for a statement if I do not give one?" #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 8m8 minutes ago
Dungee' "he was charged w forcible confinement in connection of #timbosma and u r worried about this?" CN doesn't know about case.

 

[Velma]

"I didn't wipe out his evidence. I wiped out my evidence and then realized that inevitably I wiped out his evidence as well, but I didn't wipe out the entire trailer," she says.
by Adam Carter 11:28 AM

We're now taking the morning break. Back in 20 mins.
by Adam Carter 11:29 AM

 

[Inspector_North]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"This is Dell's mess, not mine," Noudga says.

Another one calling this horrific crime a mess!

She is a female Melon!! MOO