Bosma Murder Trial - Weekend Discussion #1

[Snowglobe]

It would make sense to me that a coroner's report would not be closed, if there was a criminal investigation, until the case was resolved in court.

Elsewhere, I read that there is no time limit on coroners' reports: they take however long they take. I think it was a Toronto PD rep who said that.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Sorry updated link for ABro's Ask Me Anything

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2016/02/tim-bosma-murder-trial-ama-strings-attached.html

 

[Snowglobe]

Maybe when DM was stopped for that 208 card, it was a passenger in his vehicle that caught their eye. Sorry, I keep using "eye". Can't help it.

 

[Snowglobe]

Do tell.

Maybe the "biscuit" didn't go in the oven because an initiation ritual needs proof, and a witness?

 

[greenthumb]

Yes I believe DM was being used in such a way.

Tamarind, would it be correct to assume that you adhere to a working theory that runs contrary to the premise that DM was involved in the murder of TB? Or, are you simply advocating for not holding to any specific theory until all evidence has been presented and publicized?

Your posts read to me as though you are alluding to a 'bigger picture' that others may be overlooking - are you able to expound on that? I'm interested.

I'm sorry if I'm asking you to repeat yourself - admittedly, I have not closely followed all of the many posts of the numerous threads.

 

[Sphinx]

La Banda Los Nortenos, is a 1997 song = means The Los Nortenos Family = same gang "family".

Gang tattooes, letters and numbers are always cryptic.

For instance, an "Ambition" tattoo usually means "criminal ambition"(Igor is correct) if you are a gang member. It just means "ambition" or whatever, if you are a regular joe with that tattoo.

Can you guess what "PACIFIC" might mean?

Found this in a google search -- link to follow :


https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment

Northern Border

Gangs pose a growing problem for law enforcement along the US-Canada border, particularly the border areas in the New England and _________Pacific ______Regions. Gangs smuggle drugs, cigarettes, firearms, and immigrants across the US-Canada borders, according to NDIC reporting.44 Members of several regional- and national-level gangs, including Asian Boyz, Hells Angels, and Outlaws, smuggle large quantities of illicit drugs across the US-Canada border in New England, often conducting their smuggling operations in association with members of transnational criminal and drug trafficking organizations. According to law enforcement officials in the Pacific Region, members of several gangs, including the Hells Angels and Asian gangs, engage in cross-border criminal activity in their jurisdictions.

Los Zetas Drug Trafficking Organization

Los Zetas organization was established in the late 1990s as the enforcement arm of the Gulf Cartel drug trafficking organization to protect and expand the Gulf Cartel’s operations. Consisting of highly trained soldiers who defected from the Mexican Special Air Mobile Force Group (GAFE), the Zetas have evolved from a wing of the Gulf Cartel into their own drug trafficking organization.

Another section : APPENDIX B. MDTOs Alliances and Rivals

Cartel


Aligned With


Rivals

The Sinaloa Cartel (aka Guzman-Loera Organization or Pacific Cartel)


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[SnooperDuper]

LOL. No, he has 1997 tattooed on the top of his head. SIG. He's a real member.

Actually I remember the top of his head reading "416", which is the central Toronto area code.

 

[Tamarind]

La Banda Los Nortenos, is a 1997 song = means The Los Nortenos Family = same gang "family".

Gang tattooes, letters and numbers are always cryptic.

For instance, an "Ambition" tattoo usually means "criminal ambition"(Igor is correct) if you are a gang member. It just means "ambition" or whatever, if you are a regular joe with that tattoo.

Can you guess what "PACIFIC" might mean?

I think DM's ambition tattoo is a regular tattoo, especially when coupled with the love song on his body. I see nothing to suggest that he is a gang member JMO. He also doesn't appear to have participated in any gory death related videos.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Sorry updated link for ABro's Ask Me Anything

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2016/02/tim-bosma-murder-trial-ama-strings-attached.html

Just bumping this because there have been some questions posted. Bookmark the page and check back.

 

[Tamarind]

Tamarind, would it be correct to assume that you adhere to a working theory that runs contrary to the premise that DM was involved in the murder of TB? Or, are you simply advocating for not holding to any specific theory until all evidence has been presented and publicized?

I adhere to the theory that I don't believe anything that is not proven to me. <modsnip> I am not easily brainwashed and coerced by nature and that seems to follow in how I discern facts from fiction.

Your posts read to me as though you are alluding to a 'bigger picture' that others may be overlooking - are you able to expound on that? I'm interested.

I do believe that ther may well be a bigger picture. I have found that not everything in life is how it first appears. I am aware that people use people. I am aware that good people are used more than bad people. That is my opinion of course.

I'm sorry if I'm asking you to repeat yourself - admittedly, I have not closely followed all of the many posts of the numerous threads.

I know I don't really have to explain myself or my reasoning, but I hope what I have explained is helpful. TIA

 

[Kamille]

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/suspects-tattoo-discovery-of-tom-bosmas-cellphone-key-moments-in-murder-probe

Re: location of TB's phone - photo in linked article shows where phone was found on lawn @ Kemira - which appears to be inside the chain link fenced area, rather than on the driveway/roadway side of the fence. I believe it must have been tossed over the fence, rather than just fallen out of a hand/pocket/the truck, as has been speculated. MOO

Just the kind of location a left handed driver would lob a phone too while pitching it out the driver's side window over the top of the vehicle to the right side of the road. Must have thought he had more loft and was aiming for the trees along the drive. Wind velocity can be a bugger

MOO

 

[Kamille]

And how do we know what DM really needed the truck for? Taking cars to races is an assumption. He may have intended to paint it red and switch out the VIN and engine/interior of his current truck and tow his newly built trailer for more nefarious income purposes. Drugs? Guns? With DP saying that DM was CEO of a viable MRO business ( and we know that's not true), there's no reason for us to believe that DP's statement that DM had enough money to buy the truck is true. MOO

What were the special (hidden?) compartments in the trailer for? Seems like something you'd modify a vehicle for when border crossing to me. And not just for smuggling puppies. :thinking:

 

[HackD]

Maybe he felt safer at the hangar. From all accounts many people had frequented Maple Gate Court and may have still had a key. If no key they may have ways to get in. Maybe he suspects his father was murdered there and felt uneasy there. There are quite a few reasons IMO.

DM is the named and charged suspect in WM's murder at Maple Gate Court. Suspects?

I rather more suspect he's just comfortable in the environment of the Hanger - he's got his toys and hobbies there, he's got the basic facilities necessary for activities of daily living available there. In the days immediately after TB's murder, that would have been focus-central of post-crime cleanup.

Some people just don't need 'traditional' living accommodations, to get by in life. At this moment of time, he wasn't exactly domestically oriented, except in crime-scene cleanup.

 

[greenthumb]

Just the kind of location a left handed driver would lob a phone too while pitching it out the driver's side window over the top of the vehicle to the right side of the road. Must have thought he had more loft and was aiming for the trees along the drive. Wind velocity can be a bugger

MOO

The odd thing about that is - there are so many areas very close by that are just scrub land where there would be far less chance that the phone would be found. This is not an urban setting where most of the land is paved or landscaped. So if ditching the phone, why not throw it out in any of the empty field areas they were passing, where there would be no buildings close by? Just a dumb move? Or was it meant to be found there for some reason?

 

[Tamarind]

DM is the named and charged suspect in WM's murder at Maple Gate Court. Suspects?

I rather more suspect he's just comfortable in the environment of the Hanger - he's got his toys and hobbies there, he's got the basic facilities necessary for activities of daily living available there. In the days immediately after DM's murder, that would have been focus-central of post-crime cleanup.

I didnt realise DM was murdered. oops I don't believe DM murdered his father either. I understand MS was living at Maple Gate Court around this time, if media is to be believed about that.

Some people just don't need 'traditional' living accommodations, to get by in life. At this moment of time, he wasn't exactly domestically oriented, except in crime-scene cleanup.

He was/is a young single guy. No reason for him to be overly domesticated IMO

 

[Sillybilly]

This thread is for weekend discussion of the Bosma Murder Trial.

General discussion of possible gang affiliations, and other matters not related to this trial are a big distraction from the trial issues. Please get back on track.

:tyou:

 

[Snowglobe]

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Anyways, why throw a phone onto the property of a water purification supply company? Of all the places along the way, why there?

Water purification supplies can be used for purposes not related to drinking water. Was this a familiar place for DM or MS? Or purely random?

 

[SnooperDuper]

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Anyways, why throw a phone onto the property of a water purification supply company? Of all the places along the way, why there?

Water purification supplies can be used for purposes not related to drinking water. Was this a familiar place for DM or MS? Or purely random?

Why would they want to dispose of a gun someplace that s linked to them? I think it was meant to be a totally random, remote location.

 

[HackD]

I didnt realise DM was murdered. oops I don't believe DM murdered his father either. I understand MS was living at Maple Gate Court around this time, if media is to be believed about that.



He was/is a young single guy. No reason for him to be overly domesticated IMO

Corrected. I'm not quite awake and on my game in the initials department, after a week of the flu.

Maple Gate may have been a primary residence - but it would appear so far in the chronology of events, that it was serving as little more than a mail-drop, in the days immediately after TB's murder.

 

[Tamarind]

What were the special (hidden?) compartments in the trailer for? Seems like something you'd modify a vehicle for when border crossing to me. And not just for smuggling puppies. :thinking:

Compartments are handy to put things that may get broken along the way. Trips tend to be bumpy when towing a trailer/ winnebago. Tools and items for the races may be stored securely in such compartments, just as kitchen items need to be stored securely in a winnebago.