Breastfeeding at 8 - OMG!!!

[englishleigh]

ROFL...noticed one of the tags for this thread is "dairy farmer"....:crazy:

 

[mic730]

ROFL...noticed one of the tags for this thread is "dairy farmer"....:crazy:

Noticed tha too. What the heck is a tag?

 

[englishleigh]

Noticed tha too. What the heck is a tag?

I think it's a way of searching for different threads, like keywords.

 

[Yeah me]

I noticed their "gratitudes" at the dinner table but I didnt know that made them Wiccan, does it? Or maybe your husband saw something else?

I'm assuming he based that on their prayer. The only thing I know about them is that they are very "natural" type believers. No shots, all food organic, etc.. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

 

[pedinurse]

Milkier and Boobior

Kids should NOT have an opinion of my breasts, the way these two girls carry on. Their opinion has been impressed upon them by their mother (again IMHO).

I made hubby watch the video and he noticed they are Wiccan (I'm not bashing this religion here, honestly). I can see where this comes from now, sorta, based on what I know of their beliefs. I actually think they missed an opportunity for sympathetic understanding by not talking about that aspect. It's still way too much for me to accept.:crazy:

exactly. if it was just for comfort, they wouldn't carry on in the morning when she is getting dressed for her breasts, etc. like she said in the video...

 

[Glow]

I'm assuming he based that on their prayer. The only thing I know about them is that they are very "natural" type believers. No shots, all food organic, etc.. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

I have no idea, but my thoughts were similar. Good observation on you and DH's part!

 

[SieSie]

I am going to show this to my dh. I TOLD him he was too old to breastfeed. But he carries those damn Oreos around looking for milk. shameful.

<< spewing my drink all over myself >>

OMGosh, JBean, seriously, that's gotta be the funniest thing ever! My DH is addicted to Oreo's and, um, he likes , too.... I never would've thought of such a funny comment, though. Thanks for making my sides hurt!! :blowkiss:

 

[j2mirish]

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I got the idea that with the mom in the video it is not being done to supplant the child meeting its own nutritional needs but rather to "let" it be the childs call on when it no longer "wants/needs" the emotional connection being provided

Good post. I don't know that the Mom in this video approached it from either vantage point. She approached it more from a - "when the child is ready, the child will wean" - a standpoint not really rooted in biology or social norms.

but dont you both have to agree as a parent, we know more than the child
about their " needs and wants"- to me this is all about HER want and needs-
MY concern is the long term emotional effect on the children- especially after she allowed the scenario to be vidio taped= I just beleive this is all about her in a very strange way that I cant wrap my mind around

 

[Yeah me]

I have no idea, but my thoughts were similar. Good observation on you and DH's part!

Thanks! I seem to find this particular act very unnatural, though.

 

[southcitymom]

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but dont you both have to agree as a parent, we know more than the child
about their " needs and wants"- to me this is all about HER want and needs-
MY concern is the long term emotional effect on the children- especially after she allowed the scenario to be vidio taped= I just beleive this is all about her in a very strange way that I cant wrap my mind around

Yes - I've already said that I'm not a child-centered type of parent and that my kids weaned from things (breast, bottle, pacifiers, diapers) when I felt like it was time.

But I don't consider this 7 year old breast-feeding much different from a 7-year-old who sucks her thumb for comfort from time to time. It's just comfort and habit. I don't know why the video was made - maybe in connection with a pro-breastfeeding thing.

I think it's unusual in our culture, but I don't think it's inherently harmful.

 

[j2mirish]

ok, i made myself watch all of it. i was like... to carry on a coversation about this, i have to!

THEY HAVE NAMED THE BOOBIES! not only that, but they DRAW PICTURES OF THIS!

I think perhaps that was only for the benefit of the video, Pedi. The girls seemed very "prompted" in doing both, imo.

I dont agree- I dont think these 2 girls needed any prompting - their names for the breasts, knowing which one gave the most milk, and drawings were not
just off the top of their heads when ask- this is a part of their life that has way to much attachment to be healthy- imo

 

[j2mirish]

Ewwww...do we have to?!?! Not sure I can live thru it again!

my thoughts exactly
I first watched this at work, with no sound- was not impressed- came home got on ws- came to this thread and thought I better watch it with sounds to try to engage in any conversation about it
was even less impressed- now there is even more to hear - no can do! :crazy:

 

[dingo]

The mother is twisted in my opinion..I couldnt watch the whole video as it was giving me an ick feeling.

 

[Truly]

I think her explanation does have merit. The context of her mentioning sexuality is such that it is a societal norm that most people could see something wrong with a mother breastfeeding longer, but a 20 yo girl walking around showing off her breasts is perfectly fine. She was making the point that society is pretty screwed up in their thinking about sexuality to begin with...I happen to agree.

I haven't watched the video, because an 8 yr old breastfeeding is something I just do not wish to see, but this is a very valid point.

I have a friend who as a young single mom was pumping milk for her son to send with him to daycare so that she could work. One day, she left work, took the bus to his daycare, picked him up, waited for the next bus, and when they boarded, the child started crying. Loudly. Out of concern for her son and her fellow passengers, she discreetly began to nurse him. He quieted right down.

Well, the bus driver pulled off at the next stop, and he had radioed for police, who arrested her for exposing herself!! She was outraged, as were we all. She had the charge dismissed but it was very indicative that something is terribly wrong when breasts are viewed first as sexual objects for men and secondarily as a woman's own body and the source of nourishment for her own baby. BTW, her son was an infant, around 6 months old.

 

[j2mirish]

Yes - I've already said that I'm not a child-centered type of parent and that my kids weaned from things (breast, bottle, pacifiers, diapers) when I felt like it was time.

But I don't consider this 7 year old breast-feeding much different from a 7-year-old who sucks her thumb for comfort from time to time. It's just comfort and habit. I don't know why the video was made - maybe in connection with a pro-breastfeeding thing.

I think it's unusual in our culture, but I don't think it's inherently harmful.

but I have one that is a thumb sucker and I truly believe the comfort comes from the habit- sucking ones thumb at 8 or sucking a mothers breast for milk at 8 are simply 2 so totally different things- and again- I still say this is somehow allllll about the mom- not sexually - just wrong
the thought of an 8 year old still nursing, naming and drawing pictures of my , and upset if I wear a bra is just wrong

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh, My! What a horrible experience for her! It is wrong on so many levels for that woman to have been treated with such disrespect. I don't have a problem with women providing nourishment or comfort to their children...no matter what the setting. I bet the bus driver would not have said a single word to the size 38DD's in a tiny halter sitting beside her.

 

[deanws]

line the family up!

LMAO!!!!

 

[pedinurse]

my son sucks his thumb, but i am not going to make a youtube about it if he does when he is 8 (he's not even two yet)... and while he may get made fun a little bit, it isn't stigmatized like this is.

but i know what you're saying!! sort of the same psychology behind it, but there are totally different social stigmas related to the two...

I agree, this is ALL ABOUT MOMMA!!

 

[Yeah me]

Well, the bus driver pulled off at the next stop, and he had radioed for police, who arrested her for exposing herself!! She was outraged, as were we all. She had the charge dismissed but it was very indicative that something is terribly wrong when breasts are viewed first as sexual objects for men and secondarily as a woman's own body and the source of nourishment for her own baby. BTW, her son was an infant, around 6 months old.

That is awful! It is a very natural thing for our bodies to do. I really don't think anyone here is anti breast feeding, only the mother allowing the older kids to do it.

 

[Luzer]

I remember hearing a story from my aunt about breastfeeding a school age child breastfeeding. Back in the 1930s when my aunt was in elementary school, a classmate's mother came to school every day for the child to nurse. Evidently, the mother believed as long as she breast fed, she had natural birth control protection. I have no idea how long that lasted.