CA CA - 4 (previously 6) individuals missing near Idyllwild, summer 2020

[FeralStatic]

It appears that Jade was the only one of the six who seemingly didn't actually live in the area.

"Kemerer, 30, had been staying on her family's ranch in Anza but headed up to Idyllwild in mid-July, where she checked into the Bluebird Cottage Inn. She had planned to drive to Ohio." Detectives investigate 6 missing person cases in and around Idyllwild

She was "staying" at the family ranch in Anza, but may have lived elsewhere? Maybe after checking out of the inn in Idyllwild, she did drive off to Ohio as planned and something happened on the way....could be anywhere.

As for Dia Abrams, her ranch looks beautiful.....hard to imagine what may have happened.

And none of them found, vanished within a couple of months, other than Roy in March.

Idyllwild and Anza are close towns, and many people travel back and forth between the two. It isn't unlikely for that to happen. It is odd to check into an inn while living so close, <modsnip: No link to information stated as fact>

 

[AntBird]

Lydia was last seen heading in the direction of Garner Valley (on foot since she left her keys, purse and car at home?). Here's a map of the walk from her home on Apple Canyon Road to Garner Valley. Rosario's (presumed) drive would have taken her in the same direction down 74 towards Pinyon Pines/Saw Mill trailhead. Jade's last known destination is the Gastronome Restaurant which is approximately 10 miles northwest of Lydia's home.

 

[whitelilac]

This caught my eye just now. The article is about an encounter in Alaska, and a sentence referring to Yellowstone, but I wonder if there are bears in the Idyllwild region where this too could apply. Black bears with cubs, grizzlies? Maybe a local would know.

"Bears have been more aggressive than usual this year, the National Park Service says.
At least seven people have been attacked by grizzly bears in Yellowstone National Park since July 24, McClatchy News reported. There’s usually only one such incident by this point in the year."

Man fights with bear after it enters home with 10 kids inside, Alaska officials say

 

[AntBird]

This caught my eye just now. The article is about an encounter in Alaska, and a sentence referring to Yellowstone, but I wonder if there are bears in the Idyllwild region where this too could apply. Black bears with cubs, grizzlies? Maybe a local would know.

"Bears have been more aggressive than usual this year, the National Park Service says.
At least seven people have been attacked by grizzly bears in Yellowstone National Park since July 24, McClatchy News reported. There’s usually only one such incident by this point in the year."

Man fights with bear after it enters home with 10 kids inside, Alaska officials say

There aren't typically bears in the Idyllwild area.

 

[dulcinea]

This caught my eye just now. The article is about an encounter in Alaska, and a sentence referring to Yellowstone, but I wonder if there are bears in the Idyllwild region where this too could apply. Black bears with cubs, grizzlies? Maybe a local would know.

"Bears have been more aggressive than usual this year, the National Park Service says.
At least seven people have been attacked by grizzly bears in Yellowstone National Park since July 24, McClatchy News reported. There’s usually only one such incident by this point in the year."

Man fights with bear after it enters home with 10 kids inside, Alaska officials say

There are no grizzlies in California. Black bears, yes. Most people say they have seen them on the other side of I-10 but not Idyllwild. However, every once in awhile someone will say they saw one in the area. Coyotes and mountain lions for sure live in the area. FeralStatic, what do you know about black bears in the area?

 

[Curious Me]

This is all I can find in news articles regarding missing person Vanessa Vlasek. <modsnip: If you can't discuss it, don't mention it> She's a young, attractive 27 yr. old woman. I hope her Sister and/or any family is helping LE find her.

Without details no one can figure out if she met with foul play or just went on a vacation. If anyone finds more info in news articles about the details of when she went missing or the kind of car she drives please post it here.

Detectives investigate 6 missing person cases in and around Idyllwild

"Another woman, Vanessa Vlasek, age 27, has been missing since June 21 in the Idyllwild area."

Note she went missing June 21, reported missing July 31.

Six People Missing From Mountain Communities Within Months

"On July 31, 2020, 26-year-old Vanessa Vlasek was reported missing. Her family believes she was in the Idyllwild area."

BBM

 

[Curious Me]

Reposting for convenience:

Top Left to right

1. Roy Prifogle, 52 -- last seen on March 4
2. Lydia “Dia” Abrams, 66 -- missing from ranch June 7
3. Melissa Lane, 41 -- reported missing on July 4
   
4. Vanessa Vlasek, 27 -- missing since June 21
5. Jade Kemerer, 30 -- checked out Bluebird mid July
6. Rosario Garcia, 73 -- missing nearby Hemet since July 7

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/l...sons-in-and-around-idyllwild/509-7e117ae1-faf

I made myself a cheat sheet from the article here: Six people now confirmed missing in area • Idyllwild Town Crier

Hope it helps. Photos at ^ link.

Rosario Garcia, 73, Hispanic/black hair/brown eyes. Last seen in Hemet. Possible dementia/ Alzheimer's. Reported missing 11:46 a.m. July 9 after her vehicle was found unoccupied in Pinyon Pines.

Lydia “Dia” Abrams, 65, blonde/blue : June 7, 8:24 a.m., Hemet Station Deputies were dispatched to the 58000 block of Bonita Vista in reference to (missing person) Lydia “Dia” Abrams. June 9, RMRU (?) volunteers searched her 160- acre ranch in Apple Canyon (between Mountain Center and Garner Valley), and more difficult areas (there) on June 10. The search ended at 6 p.m. and detectives took over.

Jade Kemerer, young (20's? MOO), white/light brown/green. Last seen at the Bluebird Inn in Idyllwild by her mother on July 22. Reported missing by friend 7/31 to RCSD.
According to (reporting friend from Ohio) deputies from RCSD responded to her last known address, which is Kemerer’s father’s home in the Anza area the morning of July 31, but he said he hadn’t seen her in two weeks.
“Hemet Station received a report of Jade Kemerer missing on Aug. 2. Deputies searched the Idlewild area.

Venessa Vlasek, 26, white/brown/brown. Reported missing July 31 to RCSD.. Mom has not seen or spoken to (her) since Mother’s Day. Last seen location unknown/Idlwild (mom).

Melissa Lane, 41, (white/red/green MOO) was last seen June 15 in Pine Cove. Mother called RCSD July 4 around 3:20 p.m.but no report taken as Melissa is an adult with no known destination. She is an avid hiker.

Roy Prifogle, (40-ish, MOO), white/blonde/blue. Reported missing after going on a hike in Pine Cove. Last seen March 4, 6:30 p.m. at the Pine Cove Market:

“After six full days of searching in between inclement weather, searching 8 to 10 hours per day, Prifogle has not been located. The Riverside Mountain Rescue Unit (RMRU), as well as search and rescue volunteers from San Bernardino County, Orange County and San Diego County were assisting. In total, about 150 people have been searching during those six days.” Also adding, “On the second or third day of the search, we found his backpack, but have found no other clues as to his whereabouts.”

If you have any information about the whereabouts of Roy Prifogle, Dia Abrams, Rosario Garcia, Melissa Lane, Jade Kemerer, or Venessa Vlasek, contact the RCSD immediately at 800-950-2444.

Credit to the author

You were right on it, sorting out the facts right away.
I had to do the same thing. Six people and none of them found yet...wow.

Jade Kramer was last seen 7/30 from by a local exiting a local restaurant called The Gastronome across then across the town park. No mention of anyone else with her.
Since I am from the town I have access to a local FB group and people are trying to give information there. I can help in anyway I can.

Thank You. Adding your info about Jade being seen, but not sure we can start adding info without an approved link nor can we share just anything we read on various FB sites. If you actually know one of these people, you might want to become a Verified Insider.

 

[Curious Me]

Families are worried sick waiting everyday for news. This really got to me. Praying for some miracles.

RE: Jade Kemerer, 30

Six People Missing From Mountain Communities Within Months

"Meanwhile back in Ohio, Debbie is holding out hope, “We’re not going to judge you, we just want you home,” she says to her daughter Jade in case she hears her plea."

"She hopes to hear news soon, especially for the sake of her 10-year-old son ----- who only knows mommy hasn’t called."

“Mommy, come home, you haven’t called us for, for a while,” he says."


Any missing person is a concern of the Sheriff’s Department and our duty is to locate and bring them home safely. We continue to search for all of them. We are asking the public to assist us and if they see and or know of the whereabouts of these missing persons, to immediately call their local law enforcement agency.
Riverside County Sheriff’s Department:
(760) 836-3215.

 

[AntBird]

Jade Kramer was last seen 7/30 from by a local exiting a local restaurant called The Gastronome across then across the town park. No mention of anyone else with her.
Since I am from the town I have access to a local FB group and people are trying to give information there. I can help in anyway I can.

There's also a woman who went missing around the same time in Joshua Tree, which isn't too far away.

 

[Curious Me]

There's also a woman who went missing around the same time in Joshua Tree, which isn't too far away.

It's possible, I guess. Says it's a 1 hr. 39 min. drive. I wanted to read about this other missing woman, but your link doesn't work.

 

[swedeheart]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed due to rumor/hearsay>


i just looked on the map to see if this was anywhere near "murder mountain" bc that's the vibe i was getting. (it's not very close).

 

[Mimi in London]

There's also a woman who went missing around the same time in Joshua Tree, which isn't too far away.

Erika Lloyd - there’s a thread on WS for her.

 

[kelsie]

I very highly recommend reading the previously linked longform article The Unsolved Mystery of the Malibu Creek Murder
Yes, there has been an arrest for some of these random shootings, but many are convinced the wrong person has been arrested.

 

[YaYa_521]

Reposting for convenience:

Top Left to right

1. Roy Prifogle, 52 -- last seen on March 4
2. Lydia “Dia” Abrams, 66 -- missing from ranch June 7
3. Melissa Lane, 41 -- reported missing on July 4
   
4. Vanessa Vlasek, 27 -- missing since June 21
5. Jade Kemerer, 30 -- checked out Bluebird mid July
6. Rosario Garcia, 73 -- missing nearby Hemet since July 7

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/l...sons-in-and-around-idyllwild/509-7e117ae1-faf/QUOTE]

RSBM

Here are their individual WS threads:
CA - CA - Roy Prifogle, 52, Pine Cove, 4 Mar 2020
CA - CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020
CA - CA - Melissa Lane, 41, Pine Cove, 15 Jun 2020
CA - CA - Vanessa Vlasek, 26, Idyllwild, 21 Jun 2020
CA - Jade Kemerer, 30, Idyllwild, 22 Jul 2020
CA - CA - Rosario Garcia, 72, Hemet, 7 Jul 2020

 

[dotr]

Aug 7 2020

Friends & family of the six people missing in the Idyllwild area speak out – KESQ
''Fliers are posted in the town of Idyllwild and the surrounding communities as far away as Anza and Hemet at the bottom of the San Jacinto Mountains.
Those close to some of the missing six spoke with CBS San Diego's David Gotfredson about the situation.
Full CBS 8 Story: Detectives investigate 6 missing person cases in and around Idyllwild
"It's just a weird coincidence that there's this many locals missing," said Gabbi Rose, a former coworker of Jade Kemerer.''

 

[AntBird]

It's possible, I guess. Says it's a 1 hr. 39 min. drive. I wanted to read about this other missing woman, but your link doesn't work.

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Sorry about that. Here you go:
Erika Lloyd Missing: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

 

[coastal]

Aug 7 2020

Friends & family of the six people missing in the Idyllwild area speak out – KESQ
''Fliers are posted in the town of Idyllwild and the surrounding communities as far away as Anza and Hemet at the bottom of the San Jacinto Mountains.
Those close to some of the missing six spoke with CBS San Diego's David Gotfredson about the situation.
Full CBS 8 Story: Detectives investigate 6 missing person cases in and around Idyllwild
"It's just a weird coincidence that there's this many locals missing," said Gabbi Rose, a former coworker of Jade Kemerer.''

Shout out to David Gotfredson, who is also a Websleuth! He did great work on the McStay family's murders, and also did a lot (IMO) to keep Rebecca Zahau's murder in the news. We appreciate you, DG, and hope you'll join us here on this interesting thread!

ETA: removed duplicate post

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

Members need to post links to what they state as fact, otherwise the post will be removed.

Also, ALL images require a link to credit the source or the post will be removed.

Rumors and/or hearsay are not allowed. If you "heard something" or you read a comment/gossip on Facbook or other social media, you can't link it. If you can't link it according to TOS, just don't mention it.

 

[coastal]

Regarding Rosario Garcia:

Detectives investigate 6 missing person cases in and around Idyllwild

>>>snip

Rosario Garcia, 73, has been missing from nearby Hemet since July 7. She was last seen driving away from her home of 40 years on Katharin Street at 9:30 a.m.

The grandmother suffered from dementia, according to her family.

Her vehicle, a gray Nissan sedan, was found “high centered” and abandoned on a dirt road on Santa Rosa Mountain more than 40 miles away, family members said.

<<<snip

 

[whitelilac]

I am curious to know if there were any missing people from the area around Idyllwild in the past year who WERE located, hikers and otherwise.