CA CA - 4 (previously 6) individuals missing near Idyllwild, summer 2020

[SoHelpMeGod]

No, I found that there's a video to go with the short article, but I tried various ways, I press play video and it only goes back to the short article. WTH?

Can you still see the video?

Yes, I can still see the video, sorry you can't!
Can you try watching it on another device, maybe a SmartPhone?
I'm not tech savvy. Maybe someone who is can figure out how to copy the video and post it here to see if that would work?

I couldn't hear the name of the fiancee, so if you can watch the video and you catch the name please let us know. I know we aren't allowed to sleuth family and friends but I think it would be good to know his name.

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

No, I found that there's a video to go with the short article, but I tried various ways, I press play video and it only goes back to the short article. WTH?

Can you still see the video?

Maybe try this if you have 2 email addresses:
I was able to click on the share link on the video which enables an option to email the article/video to someone else. I used 1 email address to send it to my other email address where I could open the emailed article/video using my SmartPhone.

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

Re: Lydia 'Dia' Abrams - Bonita Vista Ranch, reported sale (of what appears to be Building 1) on 6/18/2020 per Realtor.com
58111 Bonita Vista Rd, Mountain Center, CA 92561 - realtor.com®

Riverside County Assessor - County Clerk - Recorder > Property Search > Valuation

If you scroll down to where the buildings are listed, look under the 'Units/Costs' tab for details of each building.

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

Per Sheriff's flyer: "Last seen in the 58000 block of Bonita Vista...."
Per article (appears to be per friends/family): "Abrams was heading toward the Garner Valley area...."
Friends and family of missing woman remain hopeful | Valley News

"Garner Valley is the land between the San Jacinto Mountains to the north and Rouse Ridge-Thomas Mountain to the south. Keen Camp Summit (4,900 feet) bounds it on the northwestern edge to the southwest where Highway 371 meets Highway 74 at Paradise Corners."
Garner Valley

"Garner Valley is a neighborhood located in Mountain Center in Riverside County, California.
The land that rests between the San Jacinto Mountains and the Rouse Ridge-Thomas Mountain is where you will find the beautiful neighborhood of Garner Valley. To the northwest you will find Keen Camp Summit and to the southwest is where Highway 371 connects to Highway 74 at Paradise Corners." (bolded emphasis is mine)
Garner Valley Homes for Sale

I just did the following on Google Maps to show that IF she was really seen on Bonita Vista Rd AND was heading 'toward' the Garner Valley area she would have been heading West. The Sheriff's dept does not report that she was seen on Apple Canyon Rd. And the 58000 block of Bonita Vista Rd is where the ranch is, East of Apple Canyon Rd.
خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

Here's another real estate listing for the Bonita Vista Ranch with more photos and a link to a virtual tour. The listing indicates there are 4 wells on the property so I hope those were searched.
"Boasting (4) wells,...":
https://www.trulia.com/p/ca/mountai...vista-rd-mountain-center-ca-92561--2080838726
The virtual tour can also directly be accessed on YouTube:

Due to COVID-19 restrictions large wedding venues haven't been able to operate as usual. Looked like they turned to Air BNB rentals for income.

I called the phone # for the Bonita Vista Ranch Estate wedding venue and there was a voice-mail recording by a women who gave her name as Diana (no last name given).
Diana is the contact for the Air BNB rental:
Vacation Rentals, Homes, Experiences & Places - Airbnb

Here are reviews for the properties Diana is involved with. "Dia" is mentioned in the earlier reviews. Some of the reviews are titled Garner Valley Mountain retreat, but some of the descriptions sound like the Ranch.
Diana's Profile - Airbnb

 

[AntBird]

Here's another real estate listing for the Bonita Vista Ranch with more photos and a link to a virtual tour. The listing indicates there are 4 wells on the property so I hope those were searched.
"Boasting (4) wells,...":
https://www.trulia.com/p/ca/mountai...vista-rd-mountain-center-ca-92561--2080838726
The virtual tour can also directly be accessed on YouTube:

Due to COVID-19 restrictions large wedding venues haven't been able to operate as usual. Looked like they turned to Air BNB rentals for income.

I called the phone # for the Bonita Vista Ranch Estate wedding venue and there was a voice-mail recording by a women who gave her name as Diana (no last name given).
Diana is the contact for the Air BNB rental:
Vacation Rentals, Homes, Experiences & Places - Airbnb

Here are reviews for the properties Diana is involved with. "Dia" is mentioned in the earlier reviews. Some of the reviews are titled Garner Valley Mountain retreat, but some of the descriptions sound like the Ranch.
Diana's Profile - Airbnb

One of the guest reviews mentions that they were the first to stay at BVR as AirBnB guests so it seems like they *just* started renting it out in May 2020. The guest refers to her as "Dia" but she responds as "Diana" though it's possible that Diana is a property manager. I've stayed at a few AirBnBs where the owner was not the person on site.

 

[Kudzu]

Here's another real estate listing for the Bonita Vista Ranch with more photos and a link to a virtual tour. The listing indicates there are 4 wells on the property so I hope those were searched.
"Boasting (4) wells,...":
https://www.trulia.com/p/ca/mountai...vista-rd-mountain-center-ca-92561--2080838726
The virtual tour can also directly be accessed on YouTube:

Due to COVID-19 restrictions large wedding venues haven't been able to operate as usual. Looked like they turned to Air BNB rentals for income.

I called the phone # for the Bonita Vista Ranch Estate wedding venue and there was a voice-mail recording by a women who gave her name as Diana (no last name given).
Diana is the contact for the Air BNB rental:
Vacation Rentals, Homes, Experiences & Places - Airbnb

Here are reviews for the properties Diana is involved with. "Dia" is mentioned in the earlier reviews. Some of the reviews are titled Garner Valley Mountain retreat, but some of the descriptions sound like the Ranch.
Diana's Profile - Airbnb

That property is enormous, endless possibilities of where she could be if there. Stunning property!

 

[AntBird]

Yes, I can still see the video, sorry you can't!
Can you try watching it on another device, maybe a SmartPhone?
I'm not tech savvy. Maybe someone who is can figure out how to copy the video and post it here to see if that would work?

I couldn't hear the name of the fiancee, so if you can watch the video and you catch the name please let us know. I know we aren't allowed to sleuth family and friends but I think it would be good to know his name.

Per the video, I believe it is Keith Harper. I watched it with subtitles in Chrome and then opened it with audio in Safari.

 

[MajorHoople]

No, I found that there's a video to go with the short article, but I tried various ways, I press play video and it only goes back to the short article. WTH?

Can you still see the video?

The video works OK for me too, but first I had to turn off all my ad-blockers.

 

[Curious Me]

The video works OK for me too, but first I had to turn off all my ad-blockers.

That's what I suspected, but it didn't give me any sign of that like other sites do. Plus I just went thru a major computer update where lots of changes occurred. Thank You. I'll try that.

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

Per the video, I believe it is Keith Harper. I watched it with subtitles in Chrome and then opened it with audio in Safari.

Thank you!

One of the guest reviews mentions that they were the first to stay at BVR as AirBnB guests so it seems like they *just* started renting it out in May 2020. The guest refers to her as "Dia" but she responds as "Diana" though it's possible that Diana is a property manager. I've stayed at a few AirBnBs where the owner was not the person on site.

I think Dia was involved in May and possibly part of the 1st weekend in June (before she disappeared). The later reviews don't mention Dia. I think Diana helped with communication and maybe other tasks, and then took over more once Dia went missing.

I found the house that matches the photo of the Garner Valley Mountain Retreat for sale on Realtor.com and Zillow:
36581 Tool Box Springs Rd, Mountain Center, CA, 92561 | realtor.com®
36581 Tool Box Springs Rd, Mountain Center, CA 92561 | MLS #219040600 | Zillow

I decided to call the Hemet Sheriff's office and report the address of the property, and the association with 'Dia' just in case they aren't aware. They probably already know but there's no mention in the news that any specific property other than the Ranch was searched so just in case......

 

[byo]

Dia's fiance is interviewed in the news video. Are you able to access the video?
Families want answers after 5 people go missing in Idyllwild area since March | KTLA

There is captioning that goes with the video.
Here's the part about Lydia 'Dia' Abrams:

". . . Lauren Lister has more from Idlewild (sic).
Good evening, 5 people have gone missing in the last 5 months 4 of them since June all in and around the Idlewild (sic) area with families desperate for answers, some wonder if there's any connection stuff. And not get any information.
Keith Harbors fiance Dia Abrams went missing from her Mountain Center ranch June 6th
Keith says he'd just seen her for lunch that day then texted with her around 4. But that night when he came back in from working all afternoon. He found her purse wallet and vehicle. No signs of his soon to be bride and she wasn't answering her phone when I went into the bedroom her phone was plugged in he said Authorities brought out bloodhounds divers and more but turned up nothing as they searched the property Searched the property extensively. Did not find her. 2 months laater they've now missed his and her birthday and their wedding day. We've missed all those states (sic) I may never have those states (sic) with her again. . ."

 

[Curious Me]

RE: Lydia "Dia" Abrams

Lydia Abrams was supposed to get married. I wonder if someone didn't want that to happen?
Families want answers after 5 people go missing in Idyllwild area since March | KTLA

Thank You for all your suggestions. I finally got to watch the video.

The video works OK for me too, but first I had to turn off all my ad-blockers.

That was it! Turned off my blocker for that site and immediately it worked. Usually a site notifies you to do that. Thanks again.

Families want answers after 5 people go missing in Idyllwild area since March | KTLA

This is in my own wording. It's a good video and worth watching.

Video has a name banner under Lydia's fiancé, Keith Harper, telling how she was gone and missed her birthday and their wedding date.

He had lunch with her on June 6th, then they texted at 4 p.m. that day. He was out working and when he returned he found her purse, wallet, and car still there. Lydia was not there. He tried calling her and got no answer. He found her phone in the bedroom plugged in. He said LE searched the ranch extensively.

Her plans to marry soon seem important. The selling off of part of the property is somewhat odd, but Covid has changed a lot of plans. Her fiancé seems like a very nice, sincere person.

What happened to her? They had a wedding date set and she ended up gone!

 

[AntBird]

Thank you!

Great idea on letting the Sheriff's office know.

I think Dia was involved in May and possibly part of the 1st weekend in June (before she disappeared). The later reviews don't mention Dia. I think Diana helped with communication and maybe other tasks, and then took over more once Dia went missing.

I found the house that matches the photo of the Garner Valley Mountain Retreat for sale on Realtor.com and Zillow:
36581 Tool Box Springs Rd, Mountain Center, CA, 92561 | realtor.com®
36581 Tool Box Springs Rd, Mountain Center, CA 92561 | MLS #219040600 | Zillow

I decided to call the Hemet Sheriff's office and report the address of the property, and the association with 'Dia' just in case they aren't aware. They probably already know but there's no mention in the news that any specific property other than the Ranch was searched so just in case......

 

[MajorHoople]

Investigation Continues As Six People Have Gone Missing Near Idyllwild Area

from KESQ NewsChannel 3

 

[MajorHoople]

Detectives Investigate 6 Missing Person Cases In And Around Idyllwild

from CBS 8 San Diego

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

Dia's property at 36581 Tool Box Spring Road, Mountain Center
36581 Tool Box Spring Road Road, Mountain Center, CA 92561 219040600DA - Call: Richard Ghysels at (760) 808-6362

Riverside County Assessor - County Clerk - Recorder > Property Search > Valuation
Select 'View Tax Info' and it brings you here:
Account Summary

And Dia is listed as the owner.

Per Realtor.com it was list for sale in 04/14/2018 and 03/12/2020
36581 Tool Box Springs Rd, Mountain Center, CA, 92561 | realtor.com®

 

[AmandaSkis]

Lydia’s case is very compelling. I wish we could learn who purchased some of the property very recently. She disappears June 6 and property is sold on June 18. Does someone have POA for her?

Did friends and family know she was getting married this summer?

 

[branmuffin]

No, I found that there's a video to go with the short article, but I tried various ways, I press play video and it only goes back to the short article. WTH?

Can you still see the video?

I can't access the video, either.

 

[Curious Me]

I can't access the video, either.

Turning my blocker off was the solution. I wish I could post the video here, but don't know how.

(Hint, hint for anyone that can get it posted here. )