GUILTY CA - Aramazd Andressian, 5, South Pasadena, 18 April 2017 #2

[Laocoon]

I was trying to find an update on the web, but I couldn't. Did the LE release the grandma and the aunt?

 

[Niner]

I believe that grandma and the aunt were just taken in for questioning, so yes, I believe they were "released". I'll go look for the latest news....

 

[Niner]

from 2 days ago (that's the latest I could find)

Search for missing boy continues Memorial Day weekend
http://www.scpr.org/news/2017/05/28/72290/search-for-missing-boy-continues-memorial-day-week/

Family and friends of 5-year-old Aramazd Andressian Jr. handed out flyers Saturday to people at Mission Park in Ventura and the Ranch House in Ojai. His mother and volunteers asked people to share his picture on social media.

Actually, not much of an update....

Maybe someone can find something "new". My searches on Google never give me "up-to-date" stuff.... :facepalm:

 

[katydid23]

Interesting that the child disappears ONE WEEK after Mom is ordered to pay child support. If Dad was supposed to be getting child support from the Mom, why would he do away with the child? Makes no sense.

But then again, none of these cases make sense, do they?

I just can't work up too much suspicion against Mom, even if she was going to pay child support. She is a school principal. I think she can afford part time child support with not much stress.

Evidently, she always wanted children and finally had her own when she was 40. She reportedly loves him very much and is very devoted to her boy. It is really hard for me to think she acted in any way to harm him. Or to hide him. I see no motive for that.

She is not the person was that was acting sketchy and odd. Dad was.

 

[cvaldez1975]

some parents view it as a lack of control.

I truly believe one or the other parent knows where he is at, At first I thought it was mom, who sabotaged dad, slipped him something to knock him out and then whisk Ara away, But she has been very active in campaigning for his return. The dad on the other hand possible staged the whole unconscious thingy as an alibi as he whisk Jr. away, he seems pretty comfortable, not out searching or pleading for Jr's return. the grandma is also at ease. What the motive is or was is the question! 50/50 custody is a good deal, it gives the child the best of both worlds.

 

[creepcrusher]

I just can't work up too much suspicion against Mom, even if she was going to pay child support. She is a school principal. I think she can afford part time child support with not much stress.

Evidently, she always wanted children and finally had her own when she was 40. She reportedly loves him very much and is very devoted to her boy. It is really hard for me to think she acted in any way to harm him. Or to hide him. I see no motive for that.

She is not the person was that was acting sketchy and odd. Dad was.

I agree 100%.

 

[cds0902]

I am confused about the child support, when I worked for domestic attorneys, 50/50 custody was exactly what it sounds like. Neither parent pays child support,and the child lives half the time with mom and half the time with dad. I am in Ohio, so I know laws vary from state to state. I have a very hard time thinking it is mom who is hiding Ara. Just that dad's actions or lack of are all telling. I do not think he has been harmed. Praying I am right!!!!!

 

[katydid23]

I am confused about the child support, when I worked for domestic attorneys, 50/50 custody was exactly what it sounds like. Neither parent pays child support,and the child lives half the time with mom and half the time with dad. I am in Ohio, so I know laws vary from state to state. I have a very hard time thinking it is mom who is hiding Ara. Just that dad's actions or lack of are all telling. I do not think he has been harmed. Praying I am right!!!!!

YES. I had the same question. I have never seen a 50/50 custody where one parent owed child support to the other. I thought 50/50 meant no one paid child support because it was even.

ETA: OOPS, I was wrong---

https://www.rosen.com/childcustody/cfaqs/joint-custody-child-support/

Yes. Joint custody doesn’t negate a child support obligation. Even if both parents share custody on an equal basis, one parent will inevitably owe some amount in child support. Unless of course both parents earn exactly the same income and spend exactly the same amount of time with the children, which is highly unlikely.

The reason why there still is a child support obligation even when custody is shared equally, is because our child support guidelines calculate the obligation based on time spent with each parent and the income of each parent. So even if the child spends equal time with each parent, the parent with the higher income will owe child support.

 

[cds0902]

Maybe spousal support, but even that is a stretch, one usually is married for a number of years or one either spouse helped the other, either schooling etc. I just wish dad and grandma would show some emotion!!! No wonder they were hauled in for questioning!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[xenawarrior]

Very true. Wish there was more emotion being shown. People are different. Some are dry. <modsnip> I think I saw somewhere they were married for 7 years or so.

Maybe spousal support, but even that is a stretch, one usually is married for a number of years or one either spouse helped the other, either schooling etc. I just wish dad and grandma would show some emotion!!! No wonder they were hauled in for questioning!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gitana1]

Someone asked why there would be child support if there is 50% custody. Custody percentage is only one factor in determining the support amount. Income is another. Let's say a couple has 50/50 custody but one earns minimum wage and the other is a billionaire. Should the child live like a pauper in one and house and a king in the other? Child support is meant to make sure the child is supported in the same manner in both houses.

P.S. Been following the case and it's clear the child is not alive. Terrible.

 

[gitana1]

I just can't work up too much suspicion against Mom, even if she was going to pay child support. She is a school principal. I think she can afford part time child support with not much stress.

Evidently, she always wanted children and finally had her own when she was 40. She reportedly loves him very much and is very devoted to her boy. It is really hard for me to think she acted in any way to harm him. Or to hide him. I see no motive for that.

She is not the person was that was acting sketchy and odd. Dad was.

Gosh it's been clear to me from the beginning that dad harmed the kid. I'm shocked anyone is stretching in order to point to the poor mother.

 

[gitana1]

That's why I'm having doubts that it's him. Why get rid of your meal ticket? He's possibly staying quiet because he was threatened?

He's staying quiet because he hurt his kid. IMO. People sometimes kill their kids to get back at the other parent. Revenge. Or, they accidentally kill the kid through abuse or neglect, maybe while high on something, and hide the child.

I don't think we need to do back bends to find a motive in this case.

 

[cds0902]

Well for me until there is definite proof little Ara was harmed, I will continue to pray for his safe return!

 

[Laocoon]

I understand that statistically the chances of Ara Jr being alive are next to none. I am hoping his case is one of the exceptions, and he is tucked in somewhere.

On a different note, if I knew that my grown up son hurt his child and killed him, I would personally call the police and inform them. The familial cover-up is criminal; I think the family members should be prosecuted as accessories.

 

[Laocoon]

To Niner: Thank you so much for trying to find the news update

 

[xenawarrior]

Media has posted an update online, both parents have been offered a lie detector test. Mother has agreed. Father's lawyer declined. However as someone pointed out, lie detector tests are not accurate nor admissible in court.

 

[eeyorelrn]

Media has posted an update online, both parents have been offered a lie detector test. Mother has agreed. Father's lawyer declined. However as someone pointed out, lie detector tests are not accurate nor admissible in court.

However, they do offer some investigative insight. Not surprised Daddy Dearest said no however....

 

[GigTu]

He just failed it.

 

[katydid23]

He just failed it.

HA....so right. Epic Fail right there.