GUILTY CA - Audrie Pott, 15, suicide after sexual assault, Saratoga, 10 Sept 2012

[HMSHood]

I agree that what they have done is horrific. Terrible beyond words.

I agree that they have ruined their own lives, as well as hers and all their families.

What I've tried to say is coming across as excusing them, and I do not mean to excuse them at all, in any way. And perhaps for these 4 boys, it is just too late - perhaps they are beyond any intervention or help.

I just think it is too simple to say these 4 boys are animals, lock them up & ruin their lives and that is justice, said & done... because that won't be the end of it, IMO. There will just be more where they came from, because somehow our society seems to be churning them out - self-absorbed, self-serving, unfeeling, egotistical monsters.

So, I hope that in addition to the anger and hostility we feel toward these boys in particular, cases like this make us think about what it is in our world that is failing not only our young men, but our young women, as well.

I also want to try to clarify that I am not sympathizing with the rapists - I do believe that they need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

But if these 4 boys are 'animals', then somehow they were brought up that way, or they got some very mixed up messages from our hyper-sexualized society or something... and I think we should look at what that 'something' might be.

All just MOO.

There are lot of people who have poor childhoods filled with abuse and turn out fine. Than you have people who have near normal and functional childhood and turn out bad.

 

[SilkySifaka]

There are lot of people who have poor childhoods filled with abuse and turn out fine. Than you have people who have near normal and functional childhood and turn out bad.

well it may be that they had near normal childhoods but look at what the were learning during it. One dad said it was just a prank and such a fuss shouldnt be made (paraphrase)

They learned to objectify women at home. That speaks to pretty interesting or sad dynamics at home.

and children react in different ways to trauma. Some are able to rise above it but others are cut down into hollowed shells of human beings from abuse and neglect. You cant really compare those who survived abuse with those that didn't. They each have only a certain amount of strength let alone perhaps a key person in their life, a teacher or a coach that helps some but others don't have

imo

 

[PastTense]

There have been major financial settlements. The first set of settlements:

Five parties have paid a combined $875,000 to settle their part of a wrongful-death lawsuit filed by the family of a Silicon Valley teen who committed suicide after being sexually assaulted in 2012, according to recently filed court records...
One of the boys and his family agreed to pay $600,000 to settle. The other two boys deny they caused Audrie's suicide and are scheduled to stand trial Wednesday in San Jose.

The documents filed in Santa Clara County Superior Court on March 23 also show the owners of the house where the assault occurred paid $100,000. The family of an unnamed teen girl paid $150,000. The divorced mother of one of the boys facing trial paid $25,000.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...ed-in-Audrie-Pott-Suicide-Suit-297942431.html

The other two teens have settled:

Two teens who sexually assaulted Saratoga teen Audrie Pott before she took her own life in 2012 have apologized and will agree to pay nearly $1 million, as part of a surprise legal settlement...

As part of the settlement, the boys’ families will pay $950,000. The teens will also be part of a documentary, they will be required to do interviews and talk honestly about what happened. Also, each will have to make 10 presentations at high schools about the dangers of drinking, sexting, nude photos and shaming.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ns-apologize-sexual-assault-suicide-saratoga/

This wouldn't be covered by insurance, would it? Otherwise all these people must be rich.

I was wondering what was happening with the supposed biological father Okie mentioned:

Michael Lazarin, a former boyfriend of Sheila Pott while the Potts were separated in 1996 prior to the girl's birth in 1997, filed suit last year, claiming to be Audrie's biological father. His suit included childhood photos and emails but a judge threw out the case, citing an earlier court ruling that Lawrence Pott was the legal father.

http://wn.ktvu.com/story/28700626/l...t-need-to-be-moved-due-to-pre-trial-publicity

 

[SophieRose]

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Parents-of-Audrie-Pott-settle-wrongful-death-suit-6178227.php

The parents of two of the teens agreed Friday to pay a combined $950,000 through their insurance carriers to Lawrence and Sheila Pott, the parents of Audrie Pott. According to the settlement agreement, each teen apologized for saying “things that made it seem Audrie invited or encouraged these acts. We admit that we committed these acts and shared inappropriate images of Audrie to others.”

 

[LinasK]

The settlement includes 12 non-monetary terms too.
The defendants must admit to the truth of the allegations in the criminal complaints that pertain to Audrie on the record before Judge Brian Walsh, who presided over the case.
Each defendant must publish an apology that says they committed the acts against Audrie and shared images of her with others. The apology says that the defendants would like others to know that words about someone's character can alter someone's life.
The defendants must also support an effort to have Audrie granted an honorary diploma from Saratoga High School where she was a sophomore when she died.
The settlement requires the defendants to make a public verbal apology on the record in front of Walsh, similar to the one to be published.
Each defendant is to give 10 presentations to high school students or other youth on the issues of sexting, disseminating nude photographs, soliciting nude photographs, shaming and spreading rumors and the dangers of alcohol and drugs.
Sexting is the sending or sharing of sexually explicit text messages or images by email or social media.
The defendants will face a monetary penalty if the terms of the settlement are not met. The penalty could be as little as $5,000 or as much as $100,000.
The settlement says the public apologies must be completed by Monday. more at link: http://www.ktvu.com/story/28718803/...drie-pott-wrongful-death-case-against-2-teens

 

[Masterj]

I love many of these settlement terms holding these <modsnip> accountable.

 

[MsFacetious]

They also agreed to publicly apologize to Audrie's parents. "I wish Audrie was still here, and I miss her a lot," one boy, now 18, said, per the Mercury News.
"She was a great person who didn't deserve anything that happened to her due to my actions. I apologize. I wish I could make it right."

The second said he wished he could "take back the pain and suffering I caused Audrie and the Pott family. This has caused a tragedy to all involved due to my actions.
I will do everything I can to mentor teens to not do what I did in September 2012."

In a statement on Saturday, the Potts said they forgive the boys for their actions.
"It is not coincidental that this resolution occurred on Good Friday, a day when all of our sins were forgiven," they said, per the Mercury News.

http://www.people.com/article/audrie-pott-wrongful-death-lawsuit-settled