CA- Body (IDd as Celeste Rivas Hernandez) found in vehicle at Hollywood tow yard, abandoned Tesla registered to singer D4vd – 8 September 2025 #2

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Also wanted to add
My simple answer? Because gore was like p or n to him. His words, not mine! Found if you search his reddit r/d4vd for the words p or n and gore and look for the post that just says 'wow...' in the header... then you've found it.
Yes I agree with this. His music videos themselves are disturbing. You can tell he has an obsession with macabre and gore. I'll take a look now...thankyou.
 
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I also wanted to add that it makes more sense to me now why the police have seemed to be taking so long. With her being, partially frozen, dismembered, decomposed and all the different people with access to that house & Tesla...it's a lot to unravel.
 
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I think now is a good time to revisit the size of the Model Y frunk.

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A : 35 cm or 13.8 inches

B: 70 cm or 27.6 inches

C: 43 cm or 16.9 inches

D: 91 cm or 35.8 inches

E: 35 cm or 13.8 inches

Maybe the "unique container" media referred to in the beginning was a Trunk/Frunk electric cooler/freezer. According to Google they keep items frozen indefinitely as long as they remain plugged in and reach temperatures as low as -8°F (-22°C).


ETA: Singer D4vd cooperating with investigation into body found in impounded Tesla, rep says

" While it may be too soon to determine whether the deceased woman was the victim of a crime, sources tell NBCLA that there are sinister signs, adding that her body was wrapped in a unique container."



MOO JMO
 
  • #464
I think now is a good time to revisit the size of the Model Y frunk.

I think I have mentioned this before - Burke's is a Model X - at least that is what I have in my notes.
 
  • #465
Maybe the "unique container" media referred to in the beginning was a Trunk/Frunk electric cooler/freezer. According to Google they keep items frozen indefinitely as long as they remain plugged in and reach temperatures as low as -8°F (-22°C).


ETA: Singer D4vd cooperating with investigation into body found in impounded Tesla, rep says

" While it may be too soon to determine whether the deceased woman was the victim of a crime, sources tell NBCLA that there are sinister signs, adding that her body was wrapped in a unique container."



MOO JMO

Using 'wrapped' would be weird if she was in a container. That aside, that would be one solution, it could have possibly kept her frozen longer, even if the battery eventually ran down. However, the space is tight enough already. Anything with serious insulation is going to have a capacity that is just too small for a body, even chopped up I can't imagine an intact torso would fit (IMO)

Also, all the model Y powered fridge accessories I've seen fit into the sub-trunk or the cabin. I've not seen one for the frunk. There is a cooler, but it's just a normal unpowered cooler shaped to fit the space. It can't even keep ice-cream frozen 24 hours according to this YouTuber's test of the frunk cooler, (which was also filled with ice.)

This one compares the frunk cooler to a sub trunk fridge.

I skimmed some forums where they specifically discuss putting a fridge unit in the frunk. Seems like there's no way to easily power it and apparently the interior of the frunk heats quickly in the sun.
 

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I think I have mentioned this before - Burke's is a Model X - at least that is what I have in my notes.
Thanks, @Niner! Do you have a source you can share? Not that I'm not believing you... but I can't find that info after Googling for it and I would love to see it.

And I found the source of why I thought it was a model Y... apparently a newer red Tesla in the garage is a Y. Google hasn't been helpful for a long time.

D4vd had another Tesla that was found in the garage of the home — this one a red 2025 Model Y with a lease that began on Feb.1, just as the older car appeared to stop being used, according to Fisher.


Do you happen to know if it was a 5, 6, or 7 seater? I'll try to look up that frunk dimensions. Thanks!
 
  • #467
Using 'wrapped' would be weird if she was in a container. That aside, that would be one solution, it could have possibly kept her frozen longer, even if the battery eventually ran down. However, the space is tight enough already. Anything with serious insulation is going to have a capacity that is just too small for a body, even chopped up I can't imagine an intact torso would fit (IMO)

Also, all the model Y powered fridge accessories I've seen fit into the sub-trunk or the cabin. I've not seen one for the frunk. There is a cooler, but it's just a normal unpowered cooler shaped to fit the space. It can't even keep ice-cream frozen 24 hours according to this YouTuber's test of the frunk cooler, (which was also filled with ice.)

This one compares the frunk cooler to a sub trunk fridge.

I skimmed some forums where they specifically discuss putting a fridge unit in the frunk. Seems like there's no way to easily power it and apparently the interior of the frunk heats quickly in the sun.
The frunk on the Tesla X is bigger than the Y’s. CR was petite and the body parts only weighed about 70 lbs (if I remember correctly). Anyway…I really don’t see any other way the body could have remained frozen from July 31st to the first week of September.

ETA: https://everydaychrisofficial.com/modelxvsy
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MOO JMO
 
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Celeste Rivas's body had been frozen, and as a result, it looks the L.A. County Medical Examiner will not be able to establish a cause of death ... sources directly connected to the investigation tell TMZ.

According to those sources, the Medical Examiner received the body in horrendous condition ... it was decapitated, the torso was in tact, but the limbs had been removed and cut into multiple pieces.
We're told all of the body parts were "partially frozen" ... and had, apparently, been thawing out while sitting in the trunk of D4vd's Tesla.




And there it is…..

Sure hope they’re keeping a close eye on D4vd and his crew. Mexico here they come!
 
  • #470
The frunk on the Tesla X is bigger than the Y’s. CR was petite and the body parts only weighed about 70 lbs (if I remember correctly). Anyway…I really don’t see any other way the body could have remained frozen from July 31st to the first week of September.

ETA: https://everydaychrisofficial.com/modelxvsy
View attachment 626627

MOO JMO
You are correct, my mistake I don't know where I got the impression it was a Tesla Y. It does make more sense with a Tesla X.

Though I remember some news stations flew a helicopter or a drone over the scene. The photos don't let you see anything much but there's no sign of a refiguration unit in the frunk. From what you can see, it definitely looks like she was wrapped in something flexible. Maybe a tarp, or zipped up in a garment bag. At least something like that appears to be hanging out over the bonnet.

ABC New Footage

I took a look and basically every larger Model X fridge seems to fit in the sub-trunk as well. Which makes sense since the frunk's interior would heat up a lot more (when the sun is on the bonnet.)
 
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You are correct, my mistake I don't know where I got the impression it was a Tesla Y. It does make more sense with a Tesla X.

Though I remember some news stations flew a helicopter or a drone over the scene. The photos don't let you see anything much but there's no sign of a refiguration unit in the frunk. From what you can see, it definitely looks like she was wrapped in something flexible. Maybe a tarp, or zipped up in a garment bag. At least something like that appears to be hanging out over the bonnet.

ABC New Footage

I took a look and basically every larger Model X fridge seems to fit in the sub-trunk as well. Which makes sense since the frunk's interior would heat up a lot more (when the sun is on the bonnet.)
That does look like a tarp. At first, I thought it was used by LE to cover the frunk, but looking at it again, maybe it was used by whoever put her in there. I’m just confused by the wording... “BODY FOUND IN FROZEN STATE,” “body had been frozen,” “partially frozen,” and “thawing out while sitting in the trunk.” If it sat there for about 40 days “thawing out,” there’s no way it could have still been frozen, or even partially frozen, when it was found. The only way that could have happened is if it was either kept in a frunk cooler, or it was put there just a few days before being towed.

Celeste Rivas' Body Discovered Frozen, Cause of Death Likely 'Undetermined'

MOO JMO
 
  • #472
If it sat there for about 40 days “thawing out,” there’s no way it could have still been frozen, or even partially frozen, when it was found.
And to make matters even more confusing, it was still partially frozen yet 'badly decomposed' ... with the smell permeating whatever Celeste was wrapped in AND the closed lid of the frunk, to such an extent as to alert workers at the tow yard.
 
  • #473
And to make matters even more confusing, it was still partially frozen yet 'badly decomposed' ... with the smell permeating whatever Celeste was wrapped in AND the closed lid of the frunk, to such an extent as to alert workers at the tow yard.
I am pretty sure rapid decomposition is a thing that happens after thawing because of the damage the ice crystals do to the cellular structure TBF.

I don't think she could have been kept sufficiently cool in the frunk to slow down thawing out much. From comments on Tesla threads, sun on the bonnet heats up the frunk compartment enough that you don't want to leave groceries in there too long, and tests people have done on the coolers don't make it look like they can even keep ice frozen for a day.

It's possible that they just wrote it badly. She was partially frozen at one point (which they could tell at a cellular level) She completely defrosted and then rapidly decomposed in the frunk.

As for the smell, I always found it notable that it wasn't significant enough to be noted by the officer who chalked it up or the neighbours who complained about it. Was she somehow still frozen enough at that point? Or did moving from a shady side street inio the full sun of the tow yard (heated up the compartment) make the decomposition faster/smell stronger?

Honestly this case's timeline is absolutely baffling. Every time I think I have a rough idea, some new nugget throws it completely up in the air again.
 
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And to make matters even more confusing, it was still partially frozen yet 'badly decomposed' ... with the smell permeating whatever Celeste was wrapped in AND the closed lid of the frunk, to such an extent as to alert workers at the tow yard.
"Badly decomposed" except for the one finger with the Shhh tattoo... :rolleyes:
Honestly this case's timeline is absolutely baffling. Every time I think I have a rough idea, some new nugget throws it completely up in the air again.
It’s TMZ reporting and citing “sources directly connected to the investigation”, “other sources connected to the investigation”, “investigators”, and “Mark Geragos" (who said he knows the name of the second suspect?). Doesn’t leaking information risk messing up an investigation? How reliable are these sources?

Until I hear it directly from LE, everything is just rumors and speculation based on the recent findings of a single PI. For now, I’m taking all of it with an ocean of salt.

MOO JMO

ETA: TMZ milking the gruesome death of a teenager (or any death) is despicable.
 
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Just my opinion about the timeline... I'm wondering if decomposition had already begun initially, before there was a plan. The freezing might have been done at that point to buy time to figure out what to do. The dismemberment may also have occured at that time in order to fit in whatever space was available. Upon thawing, the process resumed at an accelerated pace.

Imo it's possible that something as simple as a faulty freezer happened. Accidentally unplugged, breaker flipped, something like that. Just my unfortunate experience, but a well-sealed chest freezer that has secretly not been working will keep odors in pretty well until you open it.
 
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And to make matters even more confusing, it was still partially frozen yet 'badly decomposed' ... with the smell permeating whatever Celeste was wrapped in AND the closed lid of the frunk, to such an extent as to alert workers at the tow yard.

Trying to tie together how remains could be badly decomposed yet also have been frozen (given that freezing will halt rates of decomp)...
My current theory is that the body was initially disposed of in rural Santa Barbera, then at a later date they panicked about it being stumbled upon and went out to pick it up (decomposed at this time) and dismembered it, brought it back to store in a freezer instead.
Doesn't really make too much sense logically, but the PI said we should not expect the activities to make much sense in this case.
Why they then moved it to the car- unsure - maybe related to the upcoming tour or upcoming end of rental they knew it needed to be moved. It could have not been in the car long at all, and just bad luck (or good luck depending how you look at it!) that the car got towed at that time.
 
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Trying to tie together how remains could be badly decomposed yet also have been frozen (given that freezing will halt rates of decomp)...
My current theory is that the body was initially disposed of in rural Santa Barbera, then at a later date they panicked about it being stumbled upon and went out to pick it up (decomposed at this time) and dismembered it, brought it back to store in a freezer instead.
Doesn't really make too much sense logically, but the PI said we should not expect the activities to make much sense in this case.
Why they then moved it to the car- unsure - maybe related to the upcoming tour or upcoming end of rental they knew it needed to be moved. It could have not been in the car long at all, and just bad luck (or good luck depending how you look at it!) that the car got towed at that time.
A few weeks in a car in the sun is plenty for advanced decomposition. They would not have still been frozen. I believe the references to them being frozen were before they were put in the car, and evidence of damage caused by freezing was found in the tissue analysis.

MOO
 
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What if someone added dry ice to the frunk daily?
It evaporates, leaving no trace even if frunk were to leak.
 
  • #479
Not sure if allowed but SF makes a good point here:



BBM

"One last point, again from the Medical Examiner’s Release: “The decedent was wearing a tube top and black leggings (size small). She has wavy black hair. Jewelry includes a yellow metal stud earring and a yellow metal chain bracelet.”So you are telling me that someone supposedly went to such an extreme that they “severely cut up her limbs” as TMZ claims, yet the yellow metal chain bracelet somehow stayed on her wrist? And they supposedly did all of this so she could not be identified, but they left identifying items like her bracelet and earring, which can be tied back to photos of her and to whoever purchased them. They also left the leggings and tube top, which would now be collection cloths for the DNA of the person or persons responsible.They supposedly went to these lengths but did not strip her of her identifying clothes and jewelry?"
 
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They won't be able to figure out the cause of death so DAB and associate/s will go with the accidental overdose and panic defense and only get charged with desecrating a corpse and/or preventing a lawful burial or whatever the equivalent charges are in the US. JMT/JMO

DAB and associates don't get to decide the CoD or MoD. DAB can claim anything he likes but for a jury to buy his view over that of the ME, he will have to have good evidence.

Let's not forget that accidental overdoses require the acquisition of drugs. Providing a minor with unprescribed drugs can be a form of homicide (negligent homicide at the least; if the drugs are known to be able to cause death, second degree murder or first degree could apply - that part is up to the DA),

But if illicit drugs are found in her tissues in sufficient amounts to cause death, I doubt the ME is going to call it "accidental overdose" when the person is so young. When a minor gets access to lethal drugs, that's negligence on the part of the procurers, not an accident. If she left a suicide note, then it would be suicide and not accidental; and the people who made the drugs available could still be charged with some kind of crime.

At least not in California. The US doesn't have shared criminal codes beyond the ones that are enshrined in federal codes. This could become both a federal crime and a California crime, I suppose, but the processing of the death certificate and the initial determination of cause of death and manner of death will be according to California law and Los Angeles County procedures.
 

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