CA- Body (IDd as Celeste Rivas Hernandez) found in vehicle at Hollywood tow yard, abandoned Tesla registered to singer D4vd – 8 September 2025 #2

  • #301
Am I reading that right that SF is stating that it’s his opinion that this was an overdose death?

I suspect so. SF has believed that from the beginning, according to this post. That said, there is culpability to be assigned for that death and for the various other crimes committed by a man "against a minor."

SF seems to have little faith that any crimes here will be prosecuted properly. I hope he's wrong, but there is definitely a sense for me of an child's exploitation followed by death and a clumsy coverup happening in real time here, even as moves to escape responsibility are underway.

IMO, JMO, etc.
 
  • #302
Am I reading that right that SF is stating that it’s his opinion that this was an overdose death?
Perhaps, but that's not the way I took it.

He said "If this was a tragic accidental death such as an overdose" blah blah blah. (Then goes on to say) "If this was a homicide" blah blah blah.

So to me, he's saying such and such IF it was an overdose and such and such IF it was murder. In my mind it was just that. An overdose OR murder. I doubt it was suicide, but that's JMO, so it's one of the former 2.
 
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  • #303
Yes, that timeline is confusing.

I am not yet convinced that she died in Jan or Feb. I think the relationship may have 'died' then---they broke up, had a falling out----and that might account for the weird circumstances---lack of sightings, lack of communication between them, etc.

He may have made it clear that he couldn't be seen with her, he may have paid her off---given her some cash so she could take care of herself, etc?

But maybe some months later, in the summer, she was still coming around or reaching out to him, and was becoming problematic?

Or maybe he was continuing to see her in secret after Jan/Feb, but she didn't like it that way. And she began rebelling against that situation in June or July?
I think she was dead by February because the house she was staying in was back on the rental market by March.

As had been said. She wast even close to an adult. She had limited ways to 'leave' and live independently, even with a pay-off or maintenance money. Also, she remained an existinal threat to D4vd. She wasn't the kind of 'a bit young' that would get him side-eye. She was the kind of young that could destroy his carer and get him jailed. Even if they broke up, he would want to keep her firmly under control.

Adding to that, she returned home multiple times in 2024. Sometimes when D4vd was abroad on tour. She was 14, if they broke up and especially if he wanted her out, she'd have gone home, imo. Even if she wasn't communicating with him, she'd have been seen by someone.

She (allegedly) was a underaged runaway groomed into a dependent toxic secret relationship with a controlling older man who had a lot to lose. The relationship appeared to be breaking down by December 24. There is no proof of life past January 25. He gave up leasing her house by February 24. Her badly decomposed body was in the frunk of his car by July 25.

I see no reason to go looking for zebras when there's a sadly common explanation staring us in the face.

IDK. I do understand what the PI was saying about Jan/Feb, and the lack sightings and lack of communications on social media, etc. But I can't explain how they would have placed her in his car, in his neighbourhood, 6 months after her death. ThAT makes no sense to me. It is hard to explain how that could have happened.

MANY a dead ex girlfriend has been buried in the desert or the Angeles Forest---both are just an hour or two away.

Yeah putting her in the car and leaving it parked around the neighbourhood is completely illogical... Except for the fact they left her in the car and went on tour for a month. A tour that had months left.

At an absolutle minimum they had 10+ hours between moving the Tesla and leaving for the tour. In that time they didn't do anything to conceal her further. They didn't even swap the out the cars so they could lock the black Tesla in the garage.

Stupid as it seems, that makes me think that they had grown comfortable with the perceived risk of storing her like that - because by then they had been doing it for months with no issues.

MOO of course.
 
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  • #304
Even if they broke up, she was still a 13/14 year old girl (depending on when the relationship ended). In those intervening months, someone was housing her and feeding her and giving her spending money, probably driving her around. It’s not like she could just go get her own apartment and buy her own food. She was still a child. So there was someone providing her with all these things. If it wasn’t D4vd (and it might well have been, even if they weren’t together or the relationship was very hush hush), who was it? JMO
some one has to pay her phone bill...unless she was using her fake IDs? paying cash? unclear to me all along if she had other relationships despite her young age. There should be some $ trail associated with her.
 
  • #305
SF investigates says

" If this was a tragic accidental death such as an overdose (which I have maintained from the beginning), then anyone and everyone who knew about it and participated in concealing her body needs to be held accountable. "

So.... yeah. SF Investigations has "maintained from the beginning" that this was some sort of tragic accidental overdose.

I don't remember him saying this publicly though until just now?

Could this be proven somehow? Would forensics show evidence of an overdose as far back as.... January? 8 months since her body was found? Anyone know? What is the science behind this?
 
  • #306
Could this be proven somehow? Would forensics show evidence of an overdose as far back as.... January? 8 months since her body was found? Anyone know? What is the science behind this?

Based on chemical compounds found in the bodily organs, a toxicology screening may be able detect drugs or other substances, and based on that a pathologist can make an educated guess at whether or not a person may have died from an overdose, but it is just that - a guess. Advanced decomposition over eight months makes a lot of complex chemical changes to a body.
 
  • #307
some one has to pay her phone bill...unless she was using her fake IDs? paying cash? unclear to me all along if she had other relationships despite her young age. There should be some $ trail associated with her.
perhaps that is why she stopped contacting friends, suddenly she had no cell phone because someone else was the owner/payor of bills and someone stopped paying that bill.
 
  • #308
They found BAM in Susan morphew's bones 3 years after she died so I would hope they can find some evidence of drugs in her system(IF that is COD)...which if that were the case in my opinion would not be an accident...if someone gives drugs to a 14 year old and they die...surely that's manslaughter because there is always a risk of OD with drugs and she was given them anyway. CHR Was not old enough to work and earn money so how did she buy drugs? Someone would have to aquire them for her. I really hope the LAPD makes some moves soon to hold someone accountable because it seems to me that they are really dragging their feet on this.
IMO.
 
  • #309
I think she was dead by February because the house she was staying in was back on the rental market by March.

As had been said. She wast even close to an adult. She had limited ways to 'leave' and live independently, even with a pay-off or maintenance money. Also, she remained an existinal threat to D4vd. She wasn't the kind of 'a bit young' that would get him side-eye. She was the kind of young that could destroy his carer and get him jailed. Even if they broke up, he would want to keep her firmly under control.

Adding to that, she returned home multiple times in 2024. Sometimes when D4vd was abroad on tour. She was 14, if they broke up and especially if he wanted her out, she'd have gone home, imo. Even if she wasn't communicating with him, she'd have been seen by someone.

She (allegedly) was a underaged runaway groomed into a dependent toxic secret relationship with a controlling older man who had a lot to lose. The relationship appeared to be breaking down by December 24. There is no proof of life past January 25. He gave up leasing her house by February 24. Her badly decomposed body was in the frunk of his car by July 25.

I see no reason to go looking for zebras when there's a sadly common explanation staring us in the face.



Yeah putting her in the car and leaving it parked around the neighbourhood is completely illogical... Except for the fact they left her in the car and went on tour for a month. A tour that had months left.

At an absolutle minimum they had 10+ hours between moving the Tesla and leaving for the tour. In that time they didn't do anything to conceal her further. They didn't even swap the out the cars so they could lock the black Tesla in the garage.

Stupid as it seems, that makes me think that they had grown comfortable with the perceived risk of storing her like that - because by then they had been doing it for months with no issues.

MOO of course.
I agree with all of this. I too think she was likely dead by the February and after hiding her in the car all that time and moving it around without raising any suspicions they felt confident she wouldn't be found. I wonder if the last place the car was left meant it sat more in direct sunlight rather than shade and that along with the tilted movement of it being towed is what triggered the smell after all that time?
 
  • #310
I agree with all of this. I too think she was likely dead by the February and after hiding her in the car all that time and moving it around without raising any suspicions they felt confident she wouldn't be found. I wonder if the last place the car was left meant it sat more in direct sunlight rather than shade and that along with the tilted movement of it being towed is what triggered the smell after all that time?

I think it was a few things. The main one being Americans don't walk anywhere. The neighbourhood is on a hill and it doesn't look like anything is in walking distance anyway. Most of the narrow winding roads have what barely could be called a pavement. The houses have high gates, and driveways behind high hedges/walls, not front gardens. TLDR I am guessing that these roads see very very little foot traffic or people spending time close to the road. It's drive in/drive out. So the only people going near the Tesla were people getting in or out of the cars parked alongside it.

Nobody is going to think 'dead body' the first time they get a whiff, especially not in that neighborhood. They'd assume an animal died nearby. It would take repeatedly smelling it right by the car for that suspicion to even enter someone's mind. Even then, most people would talk themselves out of calling the police because it would seem so far-fetched.

I don't think enough people had cause to be that close to it often enough for anyone to grow concerned. Neighbours have said they smelt it in retrospect, but not the original reports or the parking officer who chalked around it and took photos made a note of any smell at all.

I think being wrapped in heavy plastic and concealed in a separate weather proof compartment deep in the car contained the smell more than you'd imagine. By the time it attracted notice/complaints, the worst of the smell has likely passed.

Full sunlight might have helped make the smell stronger. Plus the towing likely disturbed how she was wrapped, or made left over 'fluid' leak out or broken the seal of the frunk. Added to that, an impound lot worker that smells decomposition around a new a car is probably more primed to think 'dead body.' I doubt its the first one they've found.

SF investigates says

" If this was a tragic accidental death such as an overdose (which I have maintained from the beginning), then anyone and everyone who knew about it and participated in concealing her body needs to be held accountable. "

So.... yeah. SF Investigations has "maintained from the beginning" that this was some sort of tragic accidental overdose.

I don't remember him saying this publicly though until just now?

Could this be proven somehow? Would forensics show evidence of an overdose as far back as.... January? 8 months since her body was found? Anyone know? What is the science behind this?
I don't take that to mean he's claiming to have said it was an accidental overdose from the beginning. Rather thay he has always said; even if it was an overdose, crimes have still been committed by the people who concealed her death and hid her body in the car.
 
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  • #311
I'd like to know if the PI has seen any evidence that CR had been using any hard drugs.

I am pretty sure she was vaping or smoking some high quality pot, only because edgy kids her age tend to do so. [No judgement from me, I did the same]

But in terms of ODing----was she known to do heroin/meth/ etc? She does not look to be abusing any of those drugs, just from looking at her pictures. She looks very healthy. But maybe that's because she was so young?
 
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  • #312
I'd like to know if the PI has seen any evidence that CR had been using any hard drugs.

I am pretty sure she was vaping or smoking some high quality pot, only because edgy kids her age tend to do so. [No judgement from me, I did the same]

But run terms of ODing----was she known to do heroin/meth/ etc? She does not look to be abusing any of those drugs, just from looking at her pictures. She looks very healthy. But maybe that's because she was so young?
she looks healthy in the pictures we have seen but supposedly they are "old" because they keep saying no recent proof of life.
 
  • #313
she looks healthy in the pictures we have seen but supposedly they are "old" because they keep saying no recent proof of life.
I'm afraid that might have been as old as she was allowed to get.
 
  • #314
I think she was dead by February because the house she was staying in was back on the rental market by March.

As had been said. She wast even close to an adult. She had limited ways to 'leave' and live independently, even with a pay-off or maintenance money. Also, she remained an existinal threat to D4vd. She wasn't the kind of 'a bit young' that would get him side-eye. She was the kind of young that could destroy his carer and get him jailed. Even if they broke up, he would want to keep her firmly under control.

Adding to that, she returned home multiple times in 2024. Sometimes when D4vd was abroad on tour. She was 14, if they broke up and especially if he wanted her out, she'd have gone home, imo. Even if she wasn't communicating with him, she'd have been seen by someone.

She (allegedly) was a underaged runaway groomed into a dependent toxic secret relationship with a controlling older man who had a lot to lose. The relationship appeared to be breaking down by December 24. There is no proof of life past January 25. He gave up leasing her house by February 24. Her badly decomposed body was in the frunk of his car by July 25.

I see no reason to go looking for zebras when there's a sadly common explanation staring us in the face.



Yeah putting her in the car and leaving it parked around the neighbourhood is completely illogical... Except for the fact they left her in the car and went on tour for a month. A tour that had months left.

At an absolutle minimum they had 10+ hours between moving the Tesla and leaving for the tour. In that time they didn't do anything to conceal her further. They didn't even swap the out the cars so they could lock the black Tesla in the garage.

Stupid as it seems, that makes me think that they had grown comfortable with the perceived risk of storing her like that - because by then they had been doing it for months with no issues.

MOO of course.

Could she really have been in the car trunk, in the heat of the LA summer, where it routinely reaches 100+ degrees, for 8 months?

I'd think the remains would have been totally decomposed by then. I don't see how they'd see a tattoo on her finger or recognise much of anything like that.

Maybe she was stashed someplace cooler for much of the time?

But I still have a hard time believing they'd have a body in a car registered to D4, for 8 months, just abandoned at some point at the end of his own block. and never bother to dump it somewhere without his own name connected to it so blatantly.

If they just dumped it up in the Angeles Mountains, next to her hometown, everyone would think she went back home and met trouble there.

It almost makes me think that D4 wanted the body to be connected to him. If he walks away from this with no charges, like some attorneys are predicting, then he will be a superstar. :mad:
 
  • #315
I'd like to know if the PI has seen any evidence that CR had been using any hard drugs.

I am pretty sure she was vaping or smoking some high quality pot, only because edgy kids her age tend to do so. [No judgement from me, I did the same]

But in terms of ODing----was she known to do heroin/meth/ etc? She does not look to be abusing any of those drugs, just from looking at her pictures. She looks very healthy. But maybe that's because she was so young?
Not sure if he has any evidence, but considering the crowd D4vd runs with, and she was at some point spending time with D4vd so she might have been doing the same things as them.
 
  • #316
some one has to pay her phone bill...unless she was using her fake IDs? paying cash? unclear to me all along if she had other relationships despite her young age. There should be some $ trail associated with her.
Actually phoning and texting makes up far less phone use these days. Especially with kids. No doubt her main communication was WhatsApp/ Snapchat/ Instagram or whatever the latest one people using is. Hypothetically, she wouldn't need a phone contract to keep in contact with people if she wanted to. She'd just need access to WiFi.

Could she really have been in the car trunk, in the heat of the LA summer, where it routinely reaches 100+ degrees, for 8 months?

I'd think the remains would have been totally decomposed by then. I don't see how they'd see a tattoo on her finger or recognise much of anything like that.

Maybe she was stashed someplace cooler for much of the time?
The condition of the body and any skin after 6+ months would be heavily dependent on the environment. I don't have the expertise on decomposition or the data about the conditions the frunk created to speak with any authority.

However, there are circumstances in which skin could survive that long. For example if the body went through desiccation and essentially mummified. Or if, say, her hand was elevated and reached the dry decay stage intact, the skin would become leathery and could preserve the tattoo.

It took a good week for the police to mention anything identifiable about the body before she was named. They didn't say a anything about gender, age, race, hair etc. plus the confusion on whether she was intact. Which suggests to me that they couldn't be immediately certain about those features.

But I still have a hard time believing they'd have a body in a car registered to D4, for 8 months, just abandoned at some point at the end of his own block. and never bother to dump it somewhere without his own name connected to it so blatantly.
I also have a hard time believing it. But for the fact they did dump his car on the street outside his house and took off for a multi-month tour. 🤷 It is even less logical that D4vd was not fully aware she was in there.

If they just dumped it up in the Angeles Mountains, next to her hometown, everyone would think she went back home and met trouble there.

Yup. There are endless places they could have dumped her and, even if they were investigating, or there were rumours/suspicion about her connection with D4vd. It would be so much less likely to have been publically linked to him or successfully prosecuted.

It almost makes me think that D4 wanted the body to be connected to him. If he walks away from this with no charges, like some attorneys are predicting, then he will be a superstar. :mad:
No... I think he might just be that stupid.

Being maybe connected to a mysterious murder could (arguably) be an aura amplifier. Being exposed as a pedophile who groomed a child later found dead in your car is not, imo, marketable. It's a genuine security concern for the parents of his fanbase, conviction or not.
 
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  • #318

Tmz tugging at the ear of local Chicago TV....it's telling to me that NBC4 the local LA affiliate isn't saying ANYTHING about this. Harvey of TMZ got his start on NBC4 in LA so to me the silence is interesting. I'm wondering if LA news desk is being a lot more cautious about releasing all this info...
 
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  • #319
The tmz link and insta post regarding this appears to have been taken down



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  • #320
@DS2021

That is SO interesting.
Let's remember.... TMZ from the moment the body was discovered was all about making it about how THEY connected the lapd with the family saying something about the finger tattoo in red ink (which wasn't public) and that is kind of how the connection was made.

At the start TMZ was ALL over this case, interviewed Jamie at length(mom of a young man who was a "boyfriend" of C)... gave her a chance to air all her theories about C's home life.

THEN d hired attorney Burk, turns out he transferred his real estate to Mom, went radio silent and moved out.

Then.... same with TMZ. Radio silence, other than Harvey doing a podcast with Geragos both emphasizing that C's demise main REMAIN a mystery forever.
 

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