CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #3

[Voice4theSilent]

I am not convinced that he spent 17+ hours in Buttonwillow sleeping. If he did, why would he then be so exhausted after only driving an hour and fifteen minutes to Castaic that he would have to pull over and sleep some more? (Laguna Niguel, if you believe he was really heading there, was only an additional hour and a half away.)

 

[BluePoppy]

meant to quote: "I've thought the same thing about nothing happening in Buttonwillow all along.

My theory on running out of gas is that he pulled in to the Buttonwillow rest stop to sleep. Way too much space of nothingness & no exits to just happen to run out of gas right next to the rest stop & be able to cruise in. When he stopped to sleep, he left the car running with the AC on & it ran out of gas that way.

I can see Bryce charging any & everything big & small to his allowance card that he can & preserving cash for stuff parents might not approve of. JMO.

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brooke79:good thought on the running out of gas...but about the suburban area, the area where he crashed is the other side of the lake..not where all the residental areas are[/QUOTE]

If you look at the Google satellite view of the Lake Hughes Rd & I-5 freeway, look to the east of the freeway. There is Castaic Rd, which is the truck stop area & then you go through a residential area before you get to the lake area. It's 2.5 miles from the freeway to the accident area.

 

[LaborDayRN]

No I mean, before he even set off...didn't his mom have some involvement about his keys? Telling his friends to give them to him? Or did I dream that...

You didn't dream that. Friends took his keys because, he wast acting "strangely", Mom instructed friends to give them back after speaking to Bryce on the phone. IIR, Mom also offered to fly up there and Bryce told her he was driving home.

 

[Whiteorchids]

You didn't dream that. Friends took his keys because, he wast acting "strangely", Mom instructed friends to give them back after speaking to Bryce on the phone. IIR, Mom also offered to fly up there and Bryce told her he was driving home.

This is one of the parts I don't get. Me as a mom of a college student. If I called my son and his friends were holding on to his keys due to his behavior I would accept their reasoning not my sons at that moment knowing they were with him and knew more of the situation and my son is very reliable and trustworthy like Bryce. That was just a bad judgement call and I don't understand why she went against the friends best judgement. It baffles me to this day.


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[brooke79]

I am not convinced that he spent 17+ hours in Buttonwillow sleeping. If he did, why would he then be so exhausted after only driving an hour and fifteen minutes to Castaic that he would have to pull over and sleep some more? (Laguna Niguel, if you believe he was really heading there, was only an additional hour and a half away.)

that never made sense to me either

 

[brooke79]

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brooke79:good thought on the running out of gas...but about the suburban area, the area where he crashed is the other side of the lake..not where all the residental areas are

If you look at the Google satellite view of the Lake Hughes Rd & I-5 freeway, look to the east of the freeway. There is Castaic Rd, which is the truck stop area & then you go through a residential area before you get to the lake area. It's 2.5 miles from the freeway to the accident area.[/QUOTE]

ok i was just going by memory of last time i was there...i didnt remember much of any housing near lake hughs and main ramp rd, i remembered it being on the opposite side but i could def be wrong

 

[ShannonS]

This is one of the parts I don't get. Me as a mom of a college student if I called my Son and his friends were holding on to his keys due to his behavior. I would accept their reasoning not my sons at that moment knowing they were with him and knew more of the situation and my son is very reliable and trustworthy like Bryce. That was just a bad judgement call and I don't understand why she went against the friends best judgement. It baffles me to this day.


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same here. that has struck me since i first read it. kids don't normally do something that drastic for "one pill".

 

[Quester]

Thanks!

"“Thinking that he’s out there hurt is the main focus. I can’t believe he would be on a journey of his own without telling his parents,” Bryce Laspisa’s father, Michael Laspisa said.

“Totally out of character. He’s the kind of son who will call you if he’s got a hangnail. He’s totally an open book,” Michael Laspisa said."

I took the father's statement about being "on a journey" to refer to the journey he may be on now, post crash. JMO

 

[SandSage]

same here. that has struck me since i first read it. kids don't normally do something that drastic for "one pill".

Which is why I (personally) believe it was more.

:twocents:

 

[kmw461]

I'm trying to find the other articles that are a little more clear that the parents didn't know he was headed to Laguna. This article attached indicates that mom wanted to take a flight up, he told her no, to wait until she heard from him and that they had a lot to talk about. Mom states "I never heard from him". The next thing she knew was he ran out of gas in Buttonwillow.

http://hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/missing-teens-car-found-overturned-castaic-37484

 

[Whiteorchids]

same here. that has struck me since i first read it. kids don't normally do something that drastic for "one pill".

I completely agree. He must hang around good kids.


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[LaborDayRN]

I'm trying to find the other articles that are a little more clear that the parents didn't know he was headed to Laguna. This article attached indicates that mom wanted to take a flight up, he told her no, to wait until she heard from him and that they had a lot to talk about. Mom states "I never heard from him". The next thing she knew was he ran out of gas in Buttonwillow.

http://hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/missing-teens-car-found-overturned-castaic-37484

So perhaps he wasn't planning on going home to Laguna Niguel.

 

[ShannonS]

Which is why I (personally) believe it was more.

:twocents:

yuppers! plus one pill isn't going to make you stay up for 4 days. i know boys and how they love their sleep - but in comfy beds, or pals couches, not SUV's in truck stops.

 

[cluciano63]

You didn't dream that. Friends took his keys because, he wast acting "strangely", Mom instructed friends to give them back after speaking to Bryce on the phone. IIR, Mom also offered to fly up there and Bryce told her he was driving home.

I guess I am wondering how Mom got involved in the first place...who made the first call to or from Mom?

 

[SandSage]

I'm trying to find the other articles that are a little more clear that the parents didn't know he was headed to Laguna. This article attached indicates that mom wanted to take a flight up, he told her no, to wait until she heard from him and that they had a lot to talk about. Mom states "I never heard from him". The next thing she knew was he ran out of gas in Buttonwillow.

http://hometownstation.com/santa-clarita-news/missing-teens-car-found-overturned-castaic-37484

This: “Sergeant Wallace called and said the vehicle had crashed and was on its side. It had gone down a 15-foot ravine,” she said. “It went nose first and landed on the passenger side. Bryce has used an emergency tool to break the back window.” Totally contradictory to YellowCamaro's assessment which sounds solid as a rock to me... how odd.

 

[nikb]

You didn't dream that. Friends took his keys because, he wast acting "strangely", Mom instructed friends to give them back after speaking to Bryce on the phone. IIR, Mom also offered to fly up there and Bryce told her he was driving home.

This whole flying thing has never made sense to me. By the time you pack, get to the airport, park, get through security, pick up your bags on the other end (possibly, depending how much you pack), get picked up or get a taxi/shuttle from Sacramento to Rocklin/Roseville... well, I just don't see the point in flying from Laguna. It's not that far. I don't think it'd take much more time, if any, to drive it.

I don't know that it means anything, but it continues to nag at me. Maybe it means that the family's very comfortable flying even for short distances? I know it's out there, but is it possible Bryce has flown somewhere?

 

[cluciano63]

This whole flying thing has never made sense to me. By the time you pack, get to the airport, park, get through security, pick up your bags on the other end (possibly, depending how much you pack), get picked up or get a taxi/shuttle from Sacramento to Rocklin/Roseville... well, I just don't see the point in flying from Laguna. It's not that far. I don't think it'd take much more time, if any, to drive it.

I don't know that it means anything, but it continues to nag at me. Maybe it means that the family's very comfortable flying even for short distances? I know it's out there, but is it possible Bryce has flown somewhere?

How did he pay? I am guessing he had very little money.

 

[nikb]

Tonight I tried to take a step back and take an outside look at the case to see if anything new jumped out at me. Doesn't seem possible for the answer to this to be something that has never occurred to someone on this forum. Because we have come up with SO many ideas. But that's what I asked myself. "What's an idea that you haven't considered yet?" And this is what I came up with:
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I think you brought up some excellent, excellent ideas. Good thought to kind of step back and re-read. I wonder if you're right that Bryce was never actually planning to head home. I still can't figure out how he ran out of gas where he did, unless he was paying zero attention to the gas gauge. There are tons of gas stations along that section of I5. I know we've heard he was napping with the A/C on, but I've done that before - at the Buttonwillow racetrack as a matter of fact - and I was in the air conditioned truck for HOURS but the gas gauge barely even moved. It had to be nearly empty when he stopped for his nap, IMO.

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[brooke79]

yuppers! plus one pill isn't going to make you stay up for 4 days. i know boys and how they love their sleep - but in comfy beds, or pals couches, not SUV's in truck stops.

Ive been thinking Friday as in Friday night cuz when I go out and midnight passes I still consider myself out on a Friday night..or when a bar closes at 2am I still refer to my night as being at such and such bar "fri night".so we're actually talking about Thursday night @ 2:08 in the morning when he got to Castaic...I know technically that IS Friday morning...but does what I'm saying make sense? So with that being said it was Wednesday that he first stayed up all night to play madden right? or was it Tuesday...I cant remember...if it was Wednesday that would only be that he was up all night wednesday..slept all day Thursday ended up in Castaic Thursday night at 2:08 (friday morning)??????

 

[nikb]

How did he pay? I am guessing he had very little money.

Good point... unless as some have suggested maybe he kept cash aside. He had enough money for gas, and sometimes flights are even cheaper than the gas. I do think it's extremely unlikely he flew anywhere. It was just another scenario I thought about when his Mom was ready to hop on a plane for such a short distance.