CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #5

[LinasK]

Understood - so possibly in your sons case, the simple description of "[missing person] is w/o daily medication" would be sufficient. My point was that I believe some indication, even if vague, should be included on MP flyer. JMHO

I think if needed "needs medication" is the only clarification necessary, because without having been examined, noone knows Bryce's mental state prior to/after the accident. He may be head injured, and/or he may have had some kind of mental problems prior to the accident. It really doesn't matter that it was added on one month later. Personally, I would put it on to get the added urgent attention.

 

[gitana1]

We covered the motel issue in either thread #3 or #4.... We got nowhere because we can't get confirmation as to whether he was in a hotel, in the parking lot at a hotel, or on Lagoon Drive. Mom said (again in the John and Ken interview) that he was found just sitting in his car by LE on Lagoon Drive; Dispatch report states he was found in a hotel. LE pinged his cell phone within a certain # of feet of some address on Lagoon Drive (which doesn't mean he was on Lagoon Drive.) And a round and round we go!

It should be easy to determine, if there are really only 3 motels, someone ballsy can call them and ask if the missing young man stayed there that day/night.

 

[LinasK]

I’m glad to hear that dragracerz said that he continues to “have searches (not posted on FB) being conducted daily in and around Castaic” area. I still would like to see TESS or Klaas there at ground zero. I’m confused about Klaas’ level of involvement. Is there some reason he is not more active in the case?

I continue to have worrying flash backs to the LLomax case. In her case, there were supposed sightings popping up everywhere, just like we’re seeing in BL’s case now. For nearly three months, in the LLomax’ case, the focus of attention chased after these supposed sightings. The whole, entire time lovely Linnea was deceased within about a mile from where she was last seen alive.

I just hope we’re not seeing a repeat of the lengthy, painful, prolonged search everywhere only to find the MP right back at ground zero. I think that’s why this case has its claws in me. I’m still haunted by the tragedy of the LLomax case. JMHO

Bingo! And in her case the same misinformation about blondes being a rarity, just like in this case it keeps getting reiterated that redheads are a rarity, thus all the false sightings of multiple redheads!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[gitana1]

:seeya:

RE: "medical needs"

My bottom line and best suggestion to the family: I think the family should post a brief explanation/description for the added "medical needs" verbiage now used after one month of not using it.

If many of us are questioning the added term so late after BL went missing, many others have got to be questioning it as well. The family should explain so we can let it rest and move on. JMHO

Additionally, I believe most if not all MP flyers that state some sort of medical issue also include a brief explanation (eg MP is w/o meds, named serious illness, mental issues, etc) which BL's MP does not include.

Well I don't know. I just don't see how an explanation helps find Bryce at all or what its purpose would be except to satisfy the curiosity of those who question it. We have seen repeatedly that many people along the west coast, including, apparently, a police officer, aren't even aware he's missing. So I'm not worried about hordes of people losing their heads over the vagueness of the designation and becoming so confused that they can't concentrate on finding Bryce or reporting sightings.

 

[AmandaFast]

I dont know about you guys but AT a hotel screams hookers or drugs to me. More likely hookers. Maybe that's why he was there so long? Found someone on casual encounters on CL and was meeting for some fun? Plenty of ads on there are girls who are willing to come have fun and smoke for a pretty penny. Grabbed a drink and took a nap while waiting for her? Obviously all speculation but if he didn't actually stay in the hotel, I'm going that line of thinking.

If he actually stayed at the hotel then this theory goes out the window. In that case, we know he was exhausted and needed to get some rest.

I think his family needs to try to get more information about the hotel. Did he stay there? Did anyone see him if not? Plenty of people actually live at motels, so catching someone who may have seen him around there even now isn't totally out of the question.

If maybe he was planning to hide out, maybe he was looking for a motel and making plans for his get away. Heck maybe he's at the motel now. Might be worth the family hiring a PI and having a PI go check this motel out. Or all 3, if they don't know which.


I realize now I said hotel a few times. I meant motels!

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[CatFancier]

I dont know about you guys but AT a hotel screams hookers or drugs to me. More likely hookers. Maybe that's why he was there so long? Found someone on casual encounters on CL and was meeting for some fun? Plenty of ads on there are girls who are willing to come have fun and smoke for a pretty penny. Grabbed a drink and took a nap while waiting for her? Obviously all speculation but if he didn't actually stay in the hotel, I'm going that line of thinking.

If he actually stayed at the hotel then this theory goes out the window. In that case, we know he was exhausted and needed to get some rest.

I think his family needs to try to get more information about the hotel. Did he stay there? Did anyone see him if not? Plenty of people actually live at motels, so catching someone who may have seen him around there even now isn't totally out of the question.

If maybe he was planning to hide out, maybe he was looking for a motel and making plans for his get away. Heck maybe he's at the motel now. Might be worth the family hiring a PI and having a PI go check this motel out. Or all 3, if they don't know which.


I realize now I said hotel a few times. I meant motels!

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I think if he didn't have much money, he could have just slept in the parking lot.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

It should be easy to determine, if there are really only 3 motels, someone ballsy can call them and ask if the missing young man stayed there that day/night.

That would be intrusive

 

[Voice4theSilent]

I dont know about you guys but AT a hotel screams hookers or drugs to me. More likely hookers. Maybe that's why he was there so long? Found someone on casual encounters on CL and was meeting for some fun? Plenty of ads on there are girls who are willing to come have fun and smoke for a pretty penny. Grabbed a drink and took a nap while waiting for her? Obviously all speculation but if he didn't actually stay in the hotel, I'm going that line of thinking.

If he actually stayed at the hotel then this theory goes out the window. In that case, we know he was exhausted and needed to get some rest.

I think his family needs to try to get more information about the hotel. Did he stay there? Did anyone see him if not? Plenty of people actually live at motels, so catching someone who may have seen him around there even now isn't totally out of the question.

If maybe he was planning to hide out, maybe he was looking for a motel and making plans for his get away. Heck maybe he's at the motel now. Might be worth the family hiring a PI and having a PI go check this motel out. Or all 3, if they don't know which.


I realize now I said hotel a few times. I meant motels!

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I think the best thing his family can do at this point is to hire a really good PI, if they haven't already.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

The first thing I thought when I heard Bryce might have been hanging out in the parking lot of a motel by a truck stop in Buttonwillow was drugs and hookers (NOT because of Bryce, I would have thought that of ANYONE found doing the same.....I guess truck stops just seem seedy to me), the second was Internet access. That's my two cents.

 

[cluciano63]

The family likely knows about the motel, whether he was in it ,or at it. Whatever the case, it hasn't seemed to help locate him or figure out what happened. A PI is probably their best bet, as far as maybe being able to find out who else was there that night, may have seen him, may have spoken to him. He may have interacted with travelers who went on their way, not knowing a thing about him being missing.

 

[RDW]

Attached is the updated timeline. Supporting links, where available, are also included.

It made most sense to me to publish it as a pdf as you all would be able to copy data if you so desire. As a pdf, you will have to either choose to open it or save it to your hard drive, both options use Adobe Reader.

Please let me know of any additions/deletions/modifications, and/or format/posting suggestions as to how it might be easier for you all to view/use. Thx!

Note: I'll also post this in the timeline thread.

Item 56: My best estimate is from the backside of the tower to the road is 300 ft. Again, best I can tell it slopes down at 30-45 degrees for a good if not all of it....Then drops off 15' where the road comes into play (called a ravine?). So you would be looking at almost 300' of driving through brush...At night... Very dark...Very _____(Fill in the blank).

Three scenarios come to mind:
1. You throw caution in the wind and go for it(need to get to the lake, wanna kill myself, not-my-self, wanna do ????). Instead of hitting the brakes and stopping. You turn the wheel. and roll it a few times. Plausible
2. You are not in it. It rolls itself (forward). Hits a stump or larger bush, turns the wheel and rolls it. Not as plausible, based on info available.
3.You are not in it. Trying to dislodge it. It rolls backwards..Hits brush and turns, rolls. Plausible

I believe the answer here is very important to show the true frame-of-mind. I do not know about y'all.....But it would take a whole lot of issues to get me to punch-it in a car down a hill covered in brush, with no idea of whats on the other side at Zero dark thirty in the morning.

A quick aside: Going around the corner from this spot (Valencia). Picking the gnarliest roller coaster. A person truly fearful would say "No way", would have a fight meter of <50. Someone who would ride the coaster and be scared out of there socks would be >50. Someone who would ride it all day and love it would be 70>. Fight or flight guides almost every decision we make.

The mere act of pulling off the road, in that location, at 0208-0500 is pretty intriguing in itself. I think it could answer a lot of questions.

 

[SandSage]

The first thing I thought when I heard Bryce might have been hanging out in the parking lot of a motel by a truck stop in Buttonwillow was drugs and hookers (NOT because of Bryce, I would have thought that of ANYONE found doing the same.....I guess truck stops just seem seedy to me), the second was Internet access. That's my two cents.

BBM. Hmmmm. Very good point.

 

[LinasK]

I dont know about you guys but AT a hotel screams hookers or drugs to me. More likely hookers. Maybe that's why he was there so long? Found someone on casual encounters on CL and was meeting for some fun? Plenty of ads on there are girls who are willing to come have fun and smoke for a pretty penny. Grabbed a drink and took a nap while waiting for her? Obviously all speculation but if he didn't actually stay in the hotel, I'm going that line of thinking.

If he actually stayed at the hotel then this theory goes out the window. In that case, we know he was exhausted and needed to get some rest.

I think his family needs to try to get more information about the hotel. Did he stay there? Did anyone see him if not? Plenty of people actually live at motels, so catching someone who may have seen him around there even now isn't totally out of the question.

If maybe he was planning to hide out, maybe he was looking for a motel and making plans for his get away. Heck maybe he's at the motel now. Might be worth the family hiring a PI and having a PI go check this motel out. Or all 3, if they don't know which.


I realize now I said hotel a few times. I meant motels!

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He didn't have to look far for a motel-Motel6 is right off the freeway, so are the others,

 

[LinasK]

I think if he didn't have much money, he could have just slept in the parking lot.

Not in the daytime in 105 degree heat, and it stinks like cow poop. Lots of agriculture around.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Not in the daytime in 105 degree heat, and it stinks like cow poop. Lots of agriculture around.

That's gross.

I'm sure he would have jumped in the lake to stay cool. It felt like an oven that week.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

I dont know about you guys but AT a hotel screams hookers or drugs to me. More likely hookers. Maybe that's why he was there so long? Found someone on casual encounters on CL and was meeting for some fun? Plenty of ads on there are girls who are willing to come have fun and smoke for a pretty penny. Grabbed a drink and took a nap while waiting for her? Obviously all speculation but if he didn't actually stay in the hotel, I'm going that line of thinking.

If he actually stayed at the hotel then this theory goes out the window. In that case, we know he was exhausted and needed to get some rest.

I think his family needs to try to get more information about the hotel. Did he stay there? Did anyone see him if not? Plenty of people actually live at motels, so catching someone who may have seen him around there even now isn't totally out of the question.

If maybe he was planning to hide out, maybe he was looking for a motel and making plans for his get away. Heck maybe he's at the motel now. Might be worth the family hiring a PI and having a PI go check this motel out. Or all 3, if they don't know which.


I realize now I said hotel a few times. I meant motels!

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People keep saying he was exhausted and needed his sleep. I don't understand that. If he took only 1 pill on Tuesday, slept Tuesday night, possibly slept Wednesday night, slept Thursday morning (told Christian he was sleeping) and also slept most of the day on Thursday (in the parking lot of a cheap motel) why in the world would he be so tired a few hours after leaving Buttonwillow that he would need to pull off the freeway and sleep in his car in Castaic ?

 

[LinasK]

That's gross.

I'm sure he would have jumped in the lake to stay cool. It felt like an oven that week.

I'm talking about Buttonwillow, not Castaic, but in the town of Castaic, the motel are also right off I5, well seen, you don't have to go far to find one.

 

[AmandaFast]

People keep saying he was exhausted and needed his sleep. I don't understand that. If he took only 1 pill on Tuesday, slept Tuesday night, possibly slept Wednesday night, slept Thursday morning (told Christian he was sleeping) and also slept most of the day on Thursday (in the parking lot of a cheap motel) why in the world would he be so tired a few hours after leaving Buttonwillow that he would need to pull off the freeway and sleep in his car in Castaic ?

Maybe because of the heat and noise he didn't sleep well. Car sleeping during the day isn't easy.

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[alreetlike]

The first thing I thought when I heard Bryce might have been hanging out in the parking lot of a motel by a truck stop in Buttonwillow was drugs and hookers (NOT because of Bryce, I would have thought that of ANYONE found doing the same.....I guess truck stops just seem seedy to me), the second was Internet access. That's my two cents.

Good point re Internet access. I've just been abroad for a week and a few times I found myself hovering outside a cafe/hotel with free wifi just to quickly look something up before moving on.

Obviously, he'd need a device to be using.

 

[nikb]

I dont know about you guys but AT a hotel screams hookers or drugs to me. More likely hookers. Maybe that's why he was there so long? Found someone on casual encounters on CL and was meeting for some fun? Plenty of ads on there are girls who are willing to come have fun and smoke for a pretty penny. Grabbed a drink and took a nap while waiting for her? Obviously all speculation but if he didn't actually stay in the hotel, I'm going that line of thinking.

If he actually stayed at the hotel then this theory goes out the window. In that case, we know he was exhausted and needed to get some rest.

I think his family needs to try to get more information about the hotel. Did he stay there? Did anyone see him if not? Plenty of people actually live at motels, so catching someone who may have seen him around there even now isn't totally out of the question.

If maybe he was planning to hide out, maybe he was looking for a motel and making plans for his get away. Heck maybe he's at the motel now. Might be worth the family hiring a PI and having a PI go check this motel out. Or all 3, if they don't know which.


I realize now I said hotel a few times. I meant motels!

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Maybe this isn't important to him, but if he did in fact find hookers in that area who had teeth that's pretty impressive. I think it's a great idea to search and re-search the motels.

I'm trying not to get all stuck on this idea, but I wonder if they've thoroughly searched and flyered the racetrack as well. He could've easily befriended someone there, and be hanging out on the road in their RV without them having any idea he's missing. I know it sounds a little crazy but it wouldn't shock me, either.