VERDICT WATCH CA - Cash App Creator, Bob Lee, Stabbed to Death, San Francisco, Apr 2023 *Arrest*

[Zinn]

I wonder if the reason Bob Lee left his hotel to go to Khazar's condo was to set things straight with Nima. Timeline from Bob Lee's friend says that Bob Lee left his hotel around 12:30 a.m. to go over to Khazar's condo (and this was after the call or facetime that he had with Nima). He may have gone over there to set the record straight. Security video shows Nima and Bob Lee leaving the condo at 2:00 a.m. So Bob Lee was there at the condo for just over an hour. He may have thought that he had been able to smooth things over with Nima, but that was obviously not the case. If Nima was leaving to go home, he probably offered Bob Lee a ride home, which Bob Lee accepted in good faith. I don't see anything odd about this.

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According to the documents, Bob’s friend overheard the call with Nima when he and Bob were at Bob’s hotel. The documents indicate Bob and his friend left his hotel for a third location (described as Bob’s apartment but possibly a typo, unless he had an apartment and chose to stay at a hotel for other reasons which is certainly possible). Bob and friend continued to hang out at this third location until separating at 12:30am. Bob may or may not have expected Nima to be at his sister’s apartment when he arrived at 12:39am; that is unclear. He did know that Nima had picked up his sister from the first location but that might have been many hours earlier, most likely before Nima was seen on video footage entering his sister’s apartment building at 8:31pm.

 

[everybodhi]

I respectfully disagree. "Business" meeting at 1230am after a facetime call? Odds are there was a relationship beyond "business " here. I don't know what it was. For a brother to stab a man to death that just had a facetime and a late night meet up with his sister sounds odd to me. Not saying they were involved in a romantic manner. Just saying this was not a silicon valley tech meeting....who lnows tho. Just my gut feeling.

Tech Leaders Blamed San Francisco for Bob Lee’s Killing. Then Came the Arrest.

The two men had argued earlier in the evening over whether anything “inappropriate” had happened between Mr. Lee and Mr. Momeni’s sister, prosecutors said.

 

[Sundog]

According to the documents, Bob’s friend overheard the call with Nima when he and Bob were at Bob’s hotel. The documents indicate Bob and his friend left his hotel for a third location (described as Bob’s apartment but possibly a typo, unless he had an apartment and chose to stay at a hotel for other reasons which is certainly possible). Bob and friend continued to hang out at this third location until separating at 12:30am. Bob may or may not have expected Nima to be at his sister’s apartment when he arrived at 12:39am; that is unclear. He did know that Nima had picked up his sister from the first location but that might have been many hours earlier, most likely before Nima was seen on video footage entering his sister’s apartment building at 8:31pm.

Can you share the link about Nima having picked up his sister from the first location, and also a link where it says that Nima was seen on video footage entering his sister's apartment at 8:30 p.m.? I haven't seen that info in MSM, likely missed it.

 

[Zinn]

Can you share the link about Nima having picked up his sister from the first location, and also a link where it says that Nima was seen on video footage entering his sister's apartment at 8:30 p.m.? I haven't seen that info in MSM, likely missed it.

There’s a link to the court documents in this article:

Bob Lee was confronted by accused killer about sister: court documents

SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — Just hours before tech mogul Bob Lee was brutally stabbed to death in San Francisco, a witness overheard a conversation between the Cash App founder and his accused kil…

www.kron4.com

 

[SophieRose]

[Updated] Details Emerge About Murder Suspect Nima Momeni's Motive, and Footage of Stabbing

We now have information from prosecutors about a possible motive in the stabbing death of Bob Lee in downtown San Francisco, and suspect Nima Momeni made a brief court appearance Friday, but his arraignment was postponed.

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Surveillance footage allegedly shows Momeni and Lee in an elevator in Millennium Tower, exiting the building together at 2:03 a.m. on April 4. Momeni had gotten to his sister's condo around 8:30 p.m., and Lee joined them there at 12:39 a.m., and the two men reportedly left together and got into Momeni's BMW. They then drove the opposite direction of Lee's hotel, and standing outside the vehicle near the Bay Bridge on the 400 block of Main Street, video purportedly shows a man police identified as Momeni "lunge toward" the man identified as Lee, followed by Lee stumbling away up the block. This would have been followed by the events in the surveillance footage we already saw of a wounded Lee trying to seek help at the Portside II building, which had an unmanned lobby.

 

[Sundog]

There’s a link to the court documents in this article:

Bob Lee was confronted by accused killer about sister: court documents

SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — Just hours before tech mogul Bob Lee was brutally stabbed to death in San Francisco, a witness overheard a conversation between the Cash App founder and his accused kil…

www.kron4.com

Thanks.

 

[everybodhi]

There’s a link to the court documents in this article:

Bob Lee was confronted by accused killer about sister: court documents

SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — Just hours before tech mogul Bob Lee was brutally stabbed to death in San Francisco, a witness overheard a conversation between the Cash App founder and his accused kil…

www.kron4.com

These documents must be devastating for the victims family.
It’s so senseless, even if the victim was having a consensual relationship with the suspect’s sister, his actions, according to this doc, spell out in detail his disregard for human life.
I have three older brothers and can’t imagine them being this invested with my private life as an adult, even without the premeditated murder part.
A crime of passion would apply if he were her husband but this is a cold and calculated murder, I hope he spends the rest of his life in one of California’s many horrible prisons. Jmo

 

[Zinn]

According to the documents, Bob’s friend overheard the call with Nima when he and Bob were at Bob’s hotel. The documents indicate Bob and his friend left his hotel for a third location (described as Bob’s apartment but possibly a typo, unless he had an apartment and chose to stay at a hotel for other reasons which is certainly possible). Bob and friend continued to hang out at this third location until separating at 12:30am. Bob may or may not have expected Nima to be at his sister’s apartment when he arrived at 12:39am; that is unclear. He did know that Nima had picked up his sister from the first location but that might have been many hours earlier, most likely before Nima was seen on video footage entering his sister’s apartment building at 8:31pm.

Looking at the specific wording in the doc, it actually does not indicate whether the FaceTime call was placed by Bob or by Nima. It’s possible Bob reached out to Nima because he was concerned about leaving his sister behind without a ride home. I initially assumed Nima reached out to Bob with concern about his sister after picking her up but it could have been the other way around. Unclear from the document. The document does state Nima was a saved contact in Bob’s phone but does not indicate who called whom.

The concern expressed by Nima during the call was described by Bob’s friend as “whether his sister was doing drugs or anything inappropriate.” I can imagine this concern being raised either due to the sister needing a ride home or due to Nima observing unusual behavior upon picking up his sister. JMO.

 

[Sundog]

The concern expressed by Nima during the call was described by Bob’s friend as “whether his sister was doing drugs or anything inappropriate.” I can imagine this concern being raised either due to the sister needing a ride home or due to Nima observing unusual behavior upon picking up his sister. JMO.

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I had the same thought, and asked myself if Nima would go so far as to murder Bob Lee over the issue of drugs, or if he thought there was more to the situation. Would providing drugs to his sister on its own be enough to motivate NM to kill Bob Lee? I ask myself this question, and think it had to be more, at least in Nima's mind, even if not actual.

 

[Sundog]

There’s a link to the court documents in this article:

Bob Lee was confronted by accused killer about sister: court documents

SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — Just hours before tech mogul Bob Lee was brutally stabbed to death in San Francisco, a witness overheard a conversation between the Cash App founder and his accused kil…

www.kron4.com

When Witness 1 (the unidentified friend of Bob Lee) contacted the sister on the morning of April 4th to ask if Bob Lee had gone to her condo the night before, she said that he was there for about a minute but that then she went to bed, so she doesn't know how long he really stayed. I guess that means she doesn't know what transpired during the time Bob Lee was at her condo which was over an hour, and so was he just visiting with Nima during that time?

I haven't read about any toxicology results from the autopsy, could drugs have been involved at this stage of the evening, if what the sister reports is true? It would have been just Nima and Bob Lee visiting together. Too late for toxicology tests for Nima, since it was almost a week after the murder that he was arrested. But I assume they did toxicology tests at the autopsy, perhaps they are still waiting for the results.

 

[Zinn]

When Witness 1 (the unidentified friend of Bob Lee) contacted the sister on the morning of April 4th to ask if Bob Lee had gone to her condo the night before, she said that he was there for about a minute but that then she went to bed, so she doesn't know how long he really stayed. I guess that means she doesn't know what transpired during the time Bob Lee was at her condo which was over an hour, and so was he just visiting with Nima during that time?

I haven't read about any toxicology results from the autopsy, could drugs have been involved at this stage of the evening, if what the sister reports is true? It would have been just Nima and Bob Lee visiting together. Too late for toxicology tests for Nima, since it was almost a week after the murder that he was arrested. But I assume they did toxicology tests at the autopsy, perhaps they are still waiting for the results.

Document indicates she said she fell asleep and did not know when he left. Does not indicate she went to bed. I know that sounds like nitpicking but it can make a difference in intended meaning, IMO.

No mention of drugs in the report, only that drinking was already in progress at 3:30pm when the witness/friend joined Bob, Nima’s sister and a fourth unknown person described as “resident” of the first location.

 

[Luna20]

Maybe NM was concerned about preserving his sister's marriage, maybe NM benefited monetarily from his sister's lifestyle and so didn't want anything "inappropriate" to happen to jeopardize it. Just speculating on possible motive of the murderer.

That is plausible. In one of the articles it mentions a strain on the marriage so nima could have been angry at Lee for what he thought Lee was adding to the already strained relationship.

Apparently the text between Lee and the sister provided information to the investigators. She clearly makes a reference to nima coming down hard on Lee.

Where was the husband during this time?

 

[Luna20]

I get that family members support each other even when serious crimes take place, especially early on, but NM exchanging hand-heart-signals with his sister in the court room?

Edited to add - I can see this coming from him (NM), but for his sister to return the gesture in open court with the gravity of this crime and her friendship with the victim?

That was very strange to me. Does she think her brother is innocent? That would be the only reason to boldly support him in that way. But she acknowledged herself that her brother came down hard on Lee so there are missing pieces we don’t know about yet.

Sounds like she may have been supporting Lee in words only? It could be a case of blood is thicker than water. Denial regardless of what the facts are.

So far the husband doesn’t seem to be concerned about infidelity, outwardly anyway.

 

[Zinn]

That is plausible. In one of the articles it mentions a strain on the marriage so nima could have been angry at Lee for what he thought Lee was adding to the already strained relationship.

Apparently the text between Lee and the sister provided information to the investigators. She clearly makes a reference to nima coming down hard on Lee.

Where was the husband during this time?

Whatever the conflict was about, it seems they discussed it for quite a long time, possibly 15-20 minutes or so, before the stabbing occurred.

They were recorded in the elevator/lobby heading out at 2:03am and then exited in Nima’s vehicle. The drive to the parking spot on Main takes about 3 minutes, so I’d guess they would have been parked by 2:10am. Document says they “eventually” got out of the vehicle and talked for an additional 5 minutes outside of the car before what appeared to be the stabbing. Document does not specify time of stabbing but the timing of the aftermath (staggering down Main, 911 call) lead me to believe it would have been around 2:25-2:30am. JMO.

 

[Sundog]

Whatever the conflict was about, it seems they discussed it for quite a long time, possibly 15-20 minutes or so, before the stabbing occurred.

They were recorded in the elevator/lobby heading out at 2:03am and then exited in Nima’s vehicle. The drive to the parking spot on Main takes about 3 minutes, so I’d guess they would have been parked by 2:10am. Document says they “eventually” got out of the vehicle and talked for an additional 5 minutes outside of the car before what appeared to be the stabbing. Document does not specify time of stabbing but the timing of the aftermath (staggering down Main, 911 call) lead me to believe it would have been around 2:25-2:30am. JMO.

Could they have been using any drugs in the car, something that they wouldn't have used at the sister's condo? Again, I think we need the results of toxicology tests done at autopsy. The D.A. and LE may not have those results yet. Just speculation about the drug use while car parked before the stabbing took place.

 

[everybodhi]

Could they have been using any drugs in the car, something that they wouldn't have used at the sister's condo? Again, I think we need the results of toxicology tests done at autopsy. The D.A. and LE may not have those results yet. Just speculation about the drug use while car parked before the stabbing took place.

Is the theory that the suspect and victim did drugs together but the suspect didn’t want the victim doing drugs with his sister?
It may be too late to test the suspect for certain drugs now.


https://www.kron4.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2023/04/Momeni-court-documents-1.pdf

 

[CocoTutu]

I get that family members support each other even when serious crimes take place, especially early on, but NM exchanging hand-heart-signals with his sister in the court room?

Edited to add - I can see this coming from him (NM), but for his sister to return the gesture in open court with the gravity of this crime and her friendship with the victim?

The account I read was that an older relative with grey hair gave him a heart symbol- likely his mom.

 

[CocoTutu]

Is the theory that the suspect and victim did drugs together but the suspect didn’t want the victim doing drugs with his sister?
It may be too late to test the suspect for certain drugs now.

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I was wondering about that. They likely did a toxicology report on the victim which might indicate what was at play. Also- if they were just drinking all night that def could've added belligerency to an already heated interaction.

 

[Cedars]

That was very strange to me. Does she think her brother is innocent? That would be the only reason to boldly support him in that way.

That is an interesting assumption you make, that close family members should shun each other, at least in public, if they are charged with a crime.

IMO, loving families don't behave that way. They have empathy for each other. They don't engage in shaming and shunning one another. They give support when the other person needs it, regardless of the circumstances. It's unconditional love. If a family doesn't do that, what's the point of having one?

JMO

 

[SuziQ]

Does anyone else think it was the sister running around Nima's building hollering for him the night before? What was that about?