CA - Dr. William Ayres for child molestation, San Mateo, 2007 #1

[Mercyneal]

I don't know how thoroughly the police checked for video equipment. It is my belief that he has a double-super-secret storage space that his wife doesn't know about. I think that's where he keeps his really dark stuff. Perhaps this is where he keeps video of what he did to boys. He's got a real dangerous side and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still got that evidence and is still getting his jollies by reviewing those tapes. He's not with his wife 24/7 these days. God knows what he is doing or who he is meeting. He's doing something dangerous still - I can almost guarantee that. He's lived right on the edge for so long. He's not stopping now.

 

[believe09]

I don't know how thoroughly the police checked for video equipment. It is my belief that he has a double-super-secret storage space that his wife doesn't know about. I think that's where he keeps his really dark stuff. Perhaps this is where he keeps video of what he did to boys. He's got a real dangerous side and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still got that evidence and is still getting his jollies by reviewing those tapes. He's not with his wife 24/7 these days. God knows what he is doing or who he is meeting. He's doing something dangerous still - I can almost guarantee that. He's lived right on the edge for so long. He's not stopping now.

I wonder if his former partner would have any thoughts about whether or not he kept any video records of his sessions...

 

[believe09]

And it might be a terrible thing to have to ask former victims, but I wonder if they were positioned in any particular way that was consistent which might lead to the belief that he recorded some of these events.

i am sorry if this pains anyone to read.

 

[Mercyneal]

I think those are excellent questions, Believe09. We know that pedophile pediatrician Dr. Earl Bradley videotaped his sexual assaults on children.

Ayres had his own sex ed series, so clearly he is interested in the visuals of things.

He had his own office off of a breezeway in a building with other doctors. I doubt many of them stepped into his office.

The house he sold house five years ago ( to pay for the molestation civil suit) had an inground swimming pool.... One of his former partners remembers that when he first joined the partnership Ayres invited him and his son - who was about eleven at the time- over for a swim. I am thinking Ayres must have had a heyday with all of Robert's little friends coming over for a swim .

Bet you he videotaped those boys swimming.. Oh, my god, I am getting a sickening feeling that he may have tried to molest the friends of his son.

 

[believe09]

How is LE in San Mateo? Is it worth a call to ask if video equip was on the original set of warrants?

 

[Missizzy]

Yes, I need to step in again. Sorry. The swimming pool is what Silverman did. The odd thing about it is that Ashland is not a big swimming pool town...at all. There was info in the appeals decision and lots of word on the street that this is how Silverman procured his victims. We know that our kids' rapist went swimming there and played video games there with Silverman's son.

Concerning the video-taping, a warning as this might be a trigger to someone but I have a detail to add here. Our children were raped in several places--school bathroom, neighbor's garage, bird coop, but one place was a favorite of the rapist's. It was our back patio. We lived on the side of a large hill and the house backed up against the hill. We had plans to put in a hot tub on this one back patio and thus, didn't place any windows looking out onto that patio. We had bunches of kids and wanted to have a little privacy. That was the plan. And man, was it a poor one.

Well, that's where the kids played ball and hung out with the rapist. There was not one spot in our house where you could see this patio (that changed right after the disclosures!). The teen had the audacity at the time to tell me that he played with the kids back there so their noise wouldn't bother me. Monster.

An odd detail that LE uncovered is that our children were made to stand in one particular spot when they were raped and it was a clear and straight shot from a small square hole on the second floor of the bird coop next door. Five of the children spoke at length of being "posed" bent over with their feet on a X on the patio. A patio side table was in the same spot and several described being bent over the table. They even talked about being shown photos of themselves being raped in this spot. The photos were never located but LE did not do a SW for 6 weeks after the teen was arrested. I will go on record right here offering all my legal, real property to anyone who ever produces that "black book of bad pictures".

The day after the teen's arrest, an adult man who was later also arrested for raping two of our kids, was seen by us and other neighbors taking lots of things out of the bird coop. His explanation (under oath, months later) was that he was removing bird medication and some valuable birds.

We think that there was a camera set up in the second floor of the bird coop and he was able to sit up there and video or snap photos of our children's abuse. The children (one 6 yr. old, two 7 yr. olds, and two 8 yr. olds) all showed LE at their interviews how this posing worked. I didn't see it until the trial when the video-taped interviews were played. It was so obvious what was going on.

The adult male was charged and placed on house arrest for several months. Charges were finally dropped when the teen refused to testify against him.

You know what that man does now? He's a photographer. LE shared that with me a few years ago.

If I were LE, I would be very specific with each of these victims as to how they were standing or posed when they were abused. I'm so sorry if this was upsetting to some. It still makes me physically sick.

 

[OnbekendeBron]

It is my belief that he has a double-super-secret storage space that his wife doesn't know about.

I don't mean to be too overbearing on this issue, but why must it be that his wife doesn't know about it? (I'm not arguing the double-super-secret-storage space... In fact there are several county officials I can think of that might even be hiding its existence for him.)

We know for example that Etta Bryant has been told details of abuse that are clearly not within the realm of "physical examination" even if it WERE ok for ayres to be doing them, and yet Etta has no problem making excuses for him, and Etta could be feasible be dragged into court as a hostile witness against him.

ayres' wife CAN'T be forced to testify against him. If she's enjoying the same kinds of activities that ayres enjoys, why must they be a secret from her?

I just don't agree with the idea of giving the "another victim of ayres" benefit of the doubt to Solveig. She has given no reason at all for us to think that she's innocent in all of this. The only thing she has going for her is that there don't appear to be any claims against her. Hardly a reassurance when you consider the likes of Nancy Garrido and Wanda Ileen Barzee.

 

[Mercyneal]

Oh, I believe Solveig is guilty of aiding and abetting and enabling. Going to a meeting of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and badmouthing the victims? The psychiatrists who heard her say this were disgusted.

She's very vested in keeping up the lies, but I can't figure out why. I think it may have something to do with her own doctor-father. Maybe her father was guilty of something too, and she can't face looking at that.

 

[Mercyneal]

In the summer of 2005, some victims of Dr. Ayres went to lawyer Jeff Anderson about representing them in a civil case.
It didn't pan out, but now Jeff Anderson is in the news for representing the deaf Wisconsin victims of a pedophile priest. Anderson is making headlines for uncovering the role that the current Pope had in enabling the priest to continue to work with children.

Anderson has also worked alongside lawyer Mitch Garabedian, who has given interviews about the need for Boston victims of Ayres to come forward..

Associated Press story today on Anderson:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...4aoBQD9ENSN9O0
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[believe09]

Oh, I believe Solveig is guilty of aiding and abetting and enabling. Going to a meeting of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and badmouthing the victims? The psychiatrists who heard her say this were disgusted.

She's very vested in keeping up the lies, but I can't figure out why. I think it may have something to do with her own doctor-father. Maybe her father was guilty of something too, and she can't face looking at that.

Oh my head. They were a perfect storm together then....I am frankly stunned that the children are biologically his.

 

[Mercyneal]

Well, John Wayne Gacy had kids too... and his primary obsession was young boys.

 

[Mercyneal]

A person close to the Ayres case alerted us to another Boston born and bred psychologist: Walter Raymond Konkel, whose license was yanked by Brevard County in Floria for pedophilia.
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...NshHFH&sig=AHIEtbTLuSbaGC3O88r9fGJ0IIKAXDS5zQ

 

[believe09]

www.psychsearch.net/pdf/200551157.pdf

This appears to be extremely similar in nature to Ayres-not the age range attraction but the other aspects. Before any possible abuse victims read this PDF, I want to warn you that the depiction of the events are extremely specific and there are letters, interviews and forensic psychiatric examinations of the perp included in this PDF. I expect that this will be the style of evaluation Ayres will face or should face during the mental competency evaluation.

 

[OnbekendeBron]

www.psychsearch.net/pdf/200551157.pdf

This appears to be extremely similar in nature to Ayres-not the age range attraction but the other aspects. Before any possible abuse victims read this PDF, I want to warn you that the depiction of the events are extremely specific and there are letters, interviews and forensic psychiatric examinations of the perp included in this PDF. I expect that this will be the style of evaluation Ayres will face or should face during the mental competency evaluation.

Yeah. That's a pretty rough document. I got to page three:

Here's a snippet from a letter that the perp sent to one of the victims:

"You need to let go of the past, find forgiveness, not for my sake but yours and realize that hate will keep you from ever healing. It took me years to forgive myself for hurting you, [relatives of Mr. Konkel], and so many others that are affected by this. And now those people I love are being hurt again."

So here's the funny thing:

In response to some of my more cutting writings, (And sometimes just at any old time, thrown in for good measure.) I get commentary almost exactly like this from people claiming to be "on the victim's side." "You should focus on forgiveness" "It's not going to help anyone if an old senile man goes to jail" etc, etc, etc.

Guilt upon guilt upon guilt upon guilt. It could take someone 25 - 30 years to break through all those layers of guilt. (-wry irony-)

Now, here's the thing: I happen to *know* that some of them are NOT ayres or his wife. What they don't seem to get is that:

I understand from the very nature of their comments that it's VERY likely that they are also perpetrators of some similar types of crimes, and they are reacting as if they have been called out for THEIR actions.

Why are they all so smug?

I couldn't make it past that point in the document. Later though... I will.

 

[Mercyneal]

Ayres isn't senile. And it will help if he goes to jail. After all- they've sent priests who are well into their eighties into state prison, and their victims have been just fine about it.

The notorious priest Paul Shanley is a year older than Ayres, and he's in prison. Just lost his appeal, too.

 

[kbl8201]

Yeah. That's a pretty rough document. I got to page three:

Here's a snippet from a letter that the perp sent to one of the victims:

"You need to let go of the past, find forgiveness, not for my sake but yours and realize that hate will keep you from ever healing. It took me years to forgive myself for hurting you, [relatives of Mr. Konkel], and so many others that are affected by this. And now those people I love are being hurt again."

So here's the funny thing:

In response to some of my more cutting writings, (And sometimes just at any old time, thrown in for good measure.) I get commentary almost exactly like this from people claiming to be "on the victim's side." "You should focus on forgiveness" "It's not going to help anyone if an old senile man goes to jail" etc, etc, etc.

Guilt upon guilt upon guilt upon guilt. It could take someone 25 - 30 years to break through all those layers of guilt. (-wry irony-)

Now, here's the thing: I happen to *know* that some of them are NOT ayres or his wife. What they don't seem to get is that:

I understand from the very nature of their comments that it's VERY likely that they are also perpetrators of some similar types of crimes, and they are reacting as if they have been called out for THEIR actions.

Why are they all so smug?

I couldn't make it past that point in the document. Later though... I will.

why should we forgive those that arent sorry even if we are inclined in our hearts?

i havent forgiven my grandmother for waht she did to me and she's been dead 11 and a half years

 

[believe09]

The letter was just a continuation of Konkel's self serving behavior. It made me physically ill.

I spent all morning digging around looking for stuff on him-what makes me nervous is I wonder where he is now-with his compulsive behavior, little boys everywhere are very much in danger.....cause his philosophy is that they should just get over it..Oh and he is willing to help them do that. Cause he is a therapist you see.

What evil.

 

[believe09]

Reading the Wiki on Shanley had me writing a mental one for Ayres...so tempting.

 

[Mercyneal]

Onbekendebron: You said, "We know for example that Etta Bryant has been told details of abuse that are clearly not within the realm of "physical examination" even if it WERE ok for ayres to be doing them, "

Child psychiatrists just don't do physicals in this country, ever.
I just spoke with two more child psychiatrists today who trained at Judge Baker in the 1960s. One doctor who practices in Cambrige .MA said. " I know of no one who has ever done a physical exam in therapy. Doing a genital exam on a boy is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. It's monstrous, it's horrible and not acceptable. " He was sputtering with rage at the idea that a shrink would touch a kid in therapy. The other Judge Baker shrink - a woman, said it was traumatic for her to read the accounts of the molestation and that she was angered that Ayres would lie about his training at Judge Baker- a place she remembers fondly.

In California Ayres snookered Children's Services and the cops and his partners and the victims that it was normal and standard practice for a shrink to be doing making kids take off their clothes. You won't find a single shrink anywere in this country who says they do it - unless they're pedophiles.

It's just common sense. Shrinks do not do physical exams. I think the problem was in the first trial that the DA's office accepted Ayres' lawyer's statement that it was common practise back when Ayres trained. It was not. The DA should have gone after that at beginning of the trial and brought in experts from Judge Baker to show that at no time was Ayres trained to give genital exams to boys in therapy. Ayres would have been cornered with nowhere to go. As it was, some jurors believed he was trained to do so, and so he was allowed to wriggle away with his lie.

Too bad the San Mateo prosecutors can't bring in pedophile child psychiatrist Miguel Frontera in Baltimore who actually to police admitted there was no medical reason to be touching boys' genitalia in therapy.

 

[OnbekendeBron]

why should we forgive those that arent sorry even if we are inclined in our hearts?

i havent forgiven my grandmother for waht she did to me and she's been dead 11 and a half years

Without getting too preachy, as an adult, I've become a practicing Christian. I struggle with that kind of thing quite frequently. (In fact, it's one aspect that has been more painful, rather than more helpful.) It is my belief that at some point, forgiveness is supposed to be tied intimately with the expectation of continued relations. When something goes so wrong in interactions between people that continued relations will ONLY be detrimental to one or both of the parties, I think that forgiveness moves into the divine realm. (Admittedly, that's a bit of a "Kill 'em ALL and let God sort 'em out" kind of philosophy.)

I AM pretty sure that God understands why some of us feel that we don't need to forgive, and he can deal with that. (Happy Easter -- That will be the extent of my sermonizing.) :innocent: