CA - Dr. William Ayres for child molestation, San Mateo, 2007 #1

[believe09]

True forgiveness is divine and divinely motivated for sure...I admire those who can do it. That is the extent of my non sermonizing

 

[believe09]

Onbekendebron: You said, "We know for example that Etta Bryant has been told details of abuse that are clearly not within the realm of "physical examination" even if it WERE ok for ayres to be doing them, "

Child psychiatrists just don't do physicals in this country, ever.
I just spoke with two more child psychiatrists today who trained at Judge Baker in the 1960s. One doctor who practices in Cambrige .MA said. " I know of no one who has ever done a physical exam in therapy. Doing a genital exam on a boy is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. It's monstrous, it's horrible and not acceptable. " He was sputtering with rage at the idea that a shrink would touch a kid in therapy. The other Judge Baker shrink - a woman, said it was traumatic for her to read the accounts of the molestation and that she was angered that Ayres would lie about his training at Judge Baker- a place she remembers fondly.

In California Ayres snookered Children's Services and the cops and his partners and the victims that it was normal and standard practice for a shrink to be doing making kids take off their clothes. You won't find a single shrink anywere in this country who says they do it - unless they're pedophiles.

It's just common sense. Shrinks do not do physical exams. I think the problem was in the first trial that the DA's office accepted Ayres' lawyer's statement that it was common practise back when Ayres trained. It was not. The DA should have gone after that at beginning of the trial and brought in experts from Judge Baker to show that at no time was Ayres trained to give genital exams to boys in therapy. Ayres would have been cornered with nowhere to go. As it was, some jurors believed he was trained to do so, and so he was allowed to wriggle away with his lie.

Too bad the San Mateo prosecutors can't bring in pedophile child psychiatrist Miguel Frontera in Baltimore who actually to police admitted there was no medical reason to be touching boys' genitalia in therapy.

Bold, Italics, Underline by me.

Just so we do not put to fine a point on it. If you child's genitals are being examined by their mental health specialist, RUN do not walk to the police.

 

[OnbekendeBron]

Reading the Wiki on Shanley had me writing a mental one for Ayres...so tempting.

Yes... that's a back-burner project that I've kicked around for awhile.. It's on the short list, but I've never done a wiki... was going to do some stealth practice on it, but haven't yet.... time, time, time.... My short list is a long way off in the distance...

Do you know how to do wiki?

I'm pretty good at "neutralizing" facts. (I think - hard to say for sure in this case.) Which is something that would have to happen for it to stick.

I'm sure we could dig up a good timeline/facts with the people here.

 

[Missizzy]

Does anyone have a list of psychiatrists and therapists who worked with children "in the system" in San Mateo County from the mid 80's to the mid 90's. I have in my possession many evaluations done on my son who is now 24 and I'd like to see if any of the names (besides Ayres) shows up and if any have been suspected of being in consort with Ayres.

My son was in San Mateo foster care from his premature birth in Nov. 1985 until his placement in our home in Jan. 1993. He was in two foster homes (one in Daily City and one in E. Palo Alto--both where he suffered physical abuse). He was also placed twice for adoption and stayed in numerous shelter care homes. He had a total 0f 34 hospitalizations prior to coming to us. He was featured three times on local TV as a "Wednesday's Child".

I'm not looking for other abuse in his past as much as I am some pattern of passing the children from one professional to another.

 

[believe09]

Yes... that's a back-burner project that I've kicked around for awhile.. It's on the short list, but I've never done a wiki... was going to do some stealth practice on it, but haven't yet.... time, time, time.... My short list is a long way off in the distance...

Do you know how to do wiki?

I'm pretty good at "neutralizing" facts. (I think - hard to say for sure in this case.) Which is something that would have to happen for it to stick.

I'm sure we could dig up a good timeline/facts with the people here.

I can find the wiki person if you can neutralize the facts On!!! Whenever you are ready you can click on the hyperlink in my siggy to get me...

 

[Mercyneal]

In 2007, a few months after Ayres was arrested, the San Mateo Citizens Review Panel did a study on how the County failed to act on all of the complaints by victims over the years. The panel was comprised of lawyers and experts in child abuse. When they started digging, they learned that many doctors strongly suspected that Ayres was molesting boys but instead of reporting him, they either did nothing or stopped referring boys to him.

The two names I know of that came up on that list are forensic psychologist Al Fricke who worked with Ayres on cases and Dr. Etta Bryant.

According to one medical professional in San Mateo, Al Fricke once told him, "Get me drunk and I will tell you stories about Ayres." This was a few years before Ayres was arrested. Fricke has not talked to the DA. At this point, he probably fears getting into trouble for not reporting Ayres.

Etta Bryant is still loyal to Ayres. I believe that citizens should report her to Victor Sandoval, an investigator at the California Medical Board. I know he was actively looking for names of doctors who failed to report Ayres. He would be happy to hear about Bryant. Fricke is a psychologist, so he would have to be reported to a different board.

 

[Mercyneal]

I found something on a program that was in existence at Judge Baker in Boston when Ayres was there:

In one of Judge Baker's annual reports from the 1960s,it says that in the 1960s it offered its services both to the Boston Juvenile Court and a watchdog group
called the Citizenship Training Group (C.T. G.) This organization was
composed of Court and Clinic personnel and was established in 1936 to
carry on diagnosis and treatment of juvenile deliquents referred to it
by the Boston Juvenile court. Once a week a psychiatrist from Judge
Baker and a resident were available at the CTG for evaluations,
consultations and short term treatment.

This program sounds as if it would be right up Ayres' ally. Get a load of the photo of shirtless adolescent boys on a trampoline in this old article on the Citizenship Training Group's work with juveniles in Boston. Perhaps Ayres saw this photo and joined up to work with the group.
Link is here:
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>http://books.google.com/books?id=Sk...num=10&ved=0CBsQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=&f=false

 

[Mercyneal]

Does anyone have any idea why the Ayres case is the most popular news story, ever on the Male Survivor website?

80,454 hits as of this writing:

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=9&page=1

 

[believe09]

Can we hope Mercy that it is not because there are that many victims? And that they are still being failed, even now

 

[Mercyneal]

I don't know if Ayres victims are over at Male Survivor, reading the story. There are far more sensational stories that are posted there but for some reason, this story gets a huge number of hits each day.

I would hope that there are Ayres victims reading Male Survivor.

 

[Mercyneal]

In this segment of Victoria Balfour's talk last year in California on the Ayres case, a therapist named Jeff Lugerner who was in the audience stood up and said that he reported Ayres to Children's Services on behalf of a boy in 1987, and that the police never called him and did not do a thorough investigation. He said he believes there was a coverup because Children's Services was using Ayres as their primary vendor.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=secAEW-kCOg[/ame]

 

[Mercyneal]

Pre-trial hearing scheduled for Friday April 2 in the Ayres case, according to www.williamayreswatch.blogspot.com

 

[OnbekendeBron]

Tomorrow's (4/2/2010) pre-trial hearing is canceled.

There is a hearing to review the mental competency findings:
Wednesday 4/28/2010 at 8:30am

http://williamayreswatch.blogspot.com/2010/04/update-pre-trial-hearing-canceled.html


*pffft*

 

[Missizzy]

Has anyone ever done an empirical study on PTSD and trial delays? They about drove me around the bend. We'd be geared up over and over and get a cancelation call. We were gob-smacked when one trial date actually happened on the day before Thanksgiving (until 6:30 pm) and another two days before Christmas. It was hard for me to accept that those dates were random.

I've always wondered if there isn't a very real attempt to undermine the courage of the victims...even when it's not a testimony day. I'll bet blood pressure readings of the victims would be interesting to note.

 

[OnbekendeBron]

Has anyone ever done an empirical study on PTSD and trial delays? They about drove me around the bend. We'd be geared up over and over and get a cancelation call. We were gob-smacked when one trial date actually happened on the day before Thanksgiving (until 6:30 pm) and another two days before Christmas. It was hard for me to accept that those dates were random.

I've always wondered if there isn't a very real attempt to undermine the courage of the victims...even when it's not a testimony day. I'll bet blood pressure readings of the victims would be interesting to note.

All the ayres ones always fall around birthdays, planned vacations, etc. The pressure/distraction even for this stupid hearing have been building for weeks, and even though I knew weeks ago that it would be silly for them to have the pre-trial hearing given the vacation of the trial date, today is a huge let-down and I'm barely able to focus.

And yes... everything is ALWAYS about demoralizing the victims to the point that they give up. What else can you do when you have a guilty client? The justice system is so completely broken, I don't even know what to say. They really should just have auditors come in, look at all of the paperwork, and see who's done the best job filling out all of the insignificant procedural paperwork, and declare that side the winner. That's basically what they get in the end anyway. You get some guy who has lots of independent corroboration of pedophile behaviors, several reports, out of court settlement (six figures) books in his possession that are basically produced and traded by child enthusiasts, his own damning testimony, etc, etc, etc... and you end up with a hung jury because they don't get to hear the complete picture because of paperwork, and because the court doesn't want to "bias" the jury due to the number of similar complaints that have been made to the police, or by allowing the jury to hear the definition of "pedophile" thereby showing them that his very own testimony is potentially damning.

Just look at the damn paperwork, see that the high paid lawyer had more time to fill it out, and let the perp back onto the street for God's sake...

158/92 Respectably high... Who needs to think about cement pylons... This crap will do the job for you.:banghead:

Edited to add: OK... I'll tell you what I REALLY think. -heh heh heh-

 

[OnbekendeBron]

Has anyone ever done an empirical study on PTSD and trial delays? They about drove me around the bend. We'd be geared up over and over and get a cancelation call. We were gob-smacked when one trial date actually happened on the day before Thanksgiving (until 6:30 pm) and another two days before Christmas. It was hard for me to accept that those dates were random.

I've always wondered if there isn't a very real attempt to undermine the courage of the victims...even when it's not a testimony day. I'll bet blood pressure readings of the victims would be interesting to note.

I don't even get cancellation calls... I have to call them. Sometimes they let you know when you show up... Of course... I wasn't testifying... just one of the out-of-statute victims that wasn't called to testify.

I guess I can see that though... Calling 40+ victims and each of their interested family members makes for a pretty long work day.... better to spend the time trying to figure out what to do when the court allows yet another nonsense delay.

 

[believe09]

I cant see-but I have high expectations when it comes to victims rights, lol.

I am going to be offline for several days, but wanted to say that I will be catching up when I return-in the meantime, I am wishing all of you peace and beautiful weather over this next week....

 

[Mercyneal]

Wonder how Ayres is spending Easter weekend.

Better check the local San Mateo swimming pools and skateboard parks and other places where adolescent boys congregate.

 

[Missizzy]

On--Until you wrote your post above I honestly thought that our experience was unique. Every birthday, wedding, graduation, announcement of pregnancy, birth, and holiday was somehow tainted by the Smith family and their finagling attorneys. Depositions nine years after the rapes--on Christmas week? Long drawn out hearings the day before Thanksgiving? Requiring 15 years of my private journals and calendars be turned over on....my birthday?

When I counsel with families going through this, I tell them to disregard the dates. Call the DA/prosecutor the afternoon before and once again in the morning and that's it. You must make a conscious decision to move on with the glorious messiness of life or "they" win.

Let me tell you a little story. I'm ill and I rarely get out. Three years ago, I was still able to go out occasionally in a wheelchair but was still in bed most of the time. Several of our adult kids were in town and they'd reserved part of my favorite restaurant (and my favorite servers/chef/and restaurant owner for a family get-together. It was very special for me. I was so excited and felt just strong enough (with extra anti-seizure drugs on board) to tackle it.

That afternoon at 4 pm, 16 subpoenas were delivered to our door. I was required to show up at the door to accept them. I was badly shaken as I was holding proof that my shaky group was going to be put through the wringer once again. I went back to bed and told everyone I just couldn't go. I felt sad and angry and resentful and very fragile and I NEVER feel fragile.

Everyone else went out with my insistence. One adult son stayed with me as he felt terrible that I'd missed out on my special event. I cried even though I'm not much of a crier. I whined even though I rarely whine. My son wisely suggested a glass of wine.

I got about halfway through the glass of wine when a lightning bolt struck me. I thought, "To hell with this noise". No rapist and his weaselly attorneys are going to steal joy from my life. I asked my son to get my fanciest silk skirt and lacy shawl and frou frou. I put on shoes and even some make-up and refused the wheelchair.

I walked into that restaurant on the arm of my young man much to the shock of the rest of the family. Much merry-making and wine-drinking ensued and to this day I consider that I won that round.

 

[Mercyneal]

It was three years ago today that Ayres was arrested. Why has he yet to be convicted?

Read the latest from www.williamayreswatch.blogspot.com
http://williamayreswatch.blogspot.com/2010/04/three-years-ago-today.html

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