CA - Elliot Rodger kills 6, injures 13 in Isla Vista, Near UC Santa Barbara, #1

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KSBY is telecasting updates (I've been watching for nearly 30 mins). A map showed the locations of several crime scenes, starting at the Alpha Phi sorority house. Two of the 'unofficially' named victims were Tri Delts (Delta Delta Delta sorority).

(I am watching TV and the special coverage at KSBY is now ending at 4:30. The presser scheduled for 5:00 is expected to be live-streamed on KEYT and KSBY.)

~jmo~

Do you have links to the live-streaming? TIA
 
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You know what this situation needs?

More guns!

:banghead:
 
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KEYT (live television) is showing quotes from the manifesto. He claims to have many weapons in his apartment, and was concerned that his plot to kill would be discovered before he could act on it.

~jmo~
 
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I'm interested in hearing what the Rodgers' did, besides calling LE with their concerns about the videos, to try to prevent this massacre from being carried out by their disturbed son. JMVHO
 
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Here's a guy who clearly had many, many red flags and yet he did not get appropriate intervention which could have saved lives! I am so tired of people minimizing, rationalizing, explaining and denying when there's someone who is acting bizarre and needs help! I can't believe the police said he was "so kind and polite" Argh!!!

In the last month, my teenage daughter has had two young men come into her life who had major issues--both of them kind and polite. The first one told my daughter that he was going to shoot someone at school. The kid said he was not joking and he had a list of kids he wanted to shoot. So my daughter reported him. You would not believe what happened next! They called him in and told him my daughter reported him. He cried and said he would never hurt anyone. His parents said that he was "on the spectrum" and was getting therapy. The principal then emails me and says he's convinced that the kid had no intent (because the kid said he didn't mean it). That night the kid goes home and starts obsessively texting my daughter--he's obsessed and angry. We tried to get the parents and the principal to intervene again and they just kept making excuses for him saying, "It's really hard for kids on the spectrum to regulate their behavior--it takes time-- he's in therapy etc etc. He doesn't intend to hurt your daughter he just feels rejected! etc etc" Finally, as the texts got progressively more hostile, they intervened and..... took his phone away.

We've had another young man who glommed on to our daughter as a new "best friend". He was incredibly controlling and every once in a while would reveal a very creepy side. He said he could see dead bodies in their graves in the cemetary. He told me he could see "beings" from the dead just as clear as he could see people and he knew they weren't hallucinations because he had had those too and they were different! He also had several inappropriate sexual comments that scared our daughter. The rest of the time he was oh so kind and polite. We tried at various times to delicately extricate our daughter from him, but his mother would get involved, saying how wonderful it was for her son to have a friend like our daughter because he was struggling so much with his anxiety and loneliness and she was such a huge support to him. I finally told her I think your son has more going on than just anxiety--but she was in complete denial. She just had endless excuses--about the sexual comments ("I don't see how a woman can be sexually assaulted. I mean can't she just close her vagina?") she said "Oh he's just confused about sex and exploring his sexuality..." blah blah blah.

He just showed up on my doorstep this week when I was home alone and scared the crap out of me. He was angry and claimed he got kicked out of the house. I quickly shut the door and locked it and called his mom. He hadn't been kicked out of the house. I told her we don't want a relationship anymore! I have empathy for parents struggling with their kids, but I have to protect my family first.

Parents and therapists need to be more proactive and stop making excuses and minimizing! The above behaviors seem more problematic to me than just being on the spectrum or having anxiety. Now I'm not blaming ER's parents, because it does sound like he was out of the house and on his own and the parents even called the police.

It drives me crazy--and this is from a mom of a Bipolar kid, so I know how hard mental illness is. But people need to get real help and professionals like therapists and police need to take those red flags more seriously! This guy was super creepy and a raging malignant narcissist. It should have been obvious he was dangerous. JMO!!
 
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KEYT TV reporting that the shooter had 2 roommates. 3 bodies were taken out of the apt early this afternoon.

Apparently LE was at that apt soon after the shootings and thru the night and day.

Presser should provide more official details.

~jmo~
 
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Well CNN is fascinated with his manifesto. They should give it to the FBI to study or burn it in my opinion.
They are giving him exactly what he wanted.
It is making me sick.
Moo

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Press conference expected any moment foxnews is reporting. Maybe someone can find an online link.
 
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Here's a guy who clearly had many, many red flags and yet he did not get appropriate intervention which could have saved lives! I am so tired of people minimizing, rationalizing, explaining and denying when there's someone who is acting bizarre and needs help! I can't believe the police said he was "so kind and polite" Argh!!!

In the last month, my teenage daughter has had two young men come into her life who had major issues--both of them kind and polite. The first one told my daughter that he was going to shoot someone at school. The kid said he was not joking and he had a list of kids he wanted to shoot. So my daughter reported him. You would not believe what happened next! They called him in and told him my daughter reported him. He cried and said he would never hurt anyone. His parents said that he was "on the spectrum" and was getting therapy. The principal then emails me and says he's convinced that the kid had no intent (because the kid said he didn't mean it). That night the kid goes home and starts obsessively texting my daughter--he's obsessed and angry. We tried to get the parents and the principal to intervene again and they just kept making excuses for him saying, "It's really hard for kids on the spectrum to regulate their behavior--it takes time-- he's in therapy etc etc. He doesn't intend to hurt your daughter he just feels rejected! etc etc" Finally, as the texts got progressively more hostile, they intervened and..... took his phone away.

We've had another young man who glommed on to our daughter as a new "best friend". He was incredibly controlling and every once in a while would reveal a very creepy side. He said he could see dead bodies in their graves in the cemetary. He told me he could see "beings" from the dead just as clear as he could see people and he knew they weren't hallucinations because he had had those too and they were different! He also had several inappropriate sexual comments that scared our daughter. The rest of the time he was oh so kind and polite. We tried at various times to delicately extricate our daughter from him, but his mother would get involved, saying how wonderful it was for her son to have a friend like our daughter because he was struggling so much with his anxiety and loneliness and she was such a huge support to him. I finally told her I think your son has more going on than just anxiety--but she was in complete denial. She just had endless excuses--about the sexual comments ("I don't see how a woman can be sexually assaulted. I mean can't she just close her vagina?") she said "Oh he's just confused about sex and exploring his sexuality..." blah blah blah.

He just showed up on my doorstep this week when I was home alone and scared the crap out of me. He was angry and claimed he got kicked out of the house. I quickly shut the door and locked it and called his mom. He hadn't been kicked out of the house. I told her we don't want a relationship anymore! I have empathy for parents struggling with their kids, but I have to protect my family first.

Parents and therapists need to be more proactive and stop making excuses and minimizing! The above behaviors seem more problematic to me than just being on the spectrum or having anxiety. Now I'm not blaming ER's parents, because it does sound like he was out of the house and on his own and the parents even called the police.

It drives me crazy--and this is from a mom of a Bipolar kid, so I know how hard mental illness is. But people need to get real help and professionals like therapists and police need to take those red flags more seriously! This guy was super creepy and a raging malignant narcissist. It should have been obvious he was dangerous. JMO!!

OMG Song 22. I cannot believe the school admins told the kid that it was your daughter who alerted them. I hope the police were involved. How scary for both you, your daughter and your family. Please take good care of all of you.
 
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Typical disgusting misogynist. Thinks women owe him sex and attention. Too many men have the same mindset - you can see it in so-called "men's rights" or "red pill" discussion forums. I won't link them, they're easily googleable. They promote the idea of the "alpha male" and that women should be subservient to men, women are irrational and like children, and that feminism has caused so much harm to men and so they should just treat women like $hit so they can get all the sex they want. See "plate spinning".

Gross. Disgusting people, all of them.


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Ok I just found out about this 45 min ago. My 21yr old son came in talking about a boy and a video and frustration he threatened to kill people. So, I turned on CNN.

When did he shoot these kids? And how many hours did it take to figure out there were bodies in his apartment?
What was everyone doing? Reading the manifesto and watching his YouTube video and no one thought to RUN don't walk to his place and check on those poor kids?
Please tell me I am confused!
IT'S ALWAYS THE SOCIOPATH that fools everyone including their own psychiatrists!
LE should be ashamed. If the kids parents told LE "we have a problem " They better start listening!!!!! Sooner rather than later.

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