CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #2

[lonetraveler]

But did he always have a lazy eye? From Birth? I have no knowledge of when conditions that that normally appear?

Yes, and we don't really know how much one on one time the aunt has had with the baby? Did she spend anytime with him close to his birth? I have so many questions.

 

[lonetraveler]

I hope that if indeed RH is offered a deal, telling them where Emmanuel is will be a condition of the deal.

We have seen some very bad deals made lately with nothing in return. Hope this doesn't happen in this case.

 

[lonetraveler]

At first I took it as defensive as they knew his facial features would raise questions about his development.

I think someone (dad?) said, "he hit all the milestones" or something like that, which I found strange. Who the heck cares if he hit his milestones - we're not filling out your baby book! You'd think the parents would say, "Find my child! Here's his picture! We love him so much! Please, please, please help us!"

I also think Emmanuel had not been to the doctor. It's normal at the check-ups for the doc to mention the milestones, so I think that was on their minds, and describing his development was a lame attempt to look like attentive parents.

Meanwhile, he was deceased at their hands.

jmopinion

I brought it up very early in this case that I wanted to see medical records or at the very least a doctor to confirm that he had tended to Emmanuel. I agree, I don't think this baby has ever seen a doctor, I don't even think she had him in a hospital at this point.

 

[agilbe]

Baby Emmanuel Haro's parents arrested on suspicion of murder | abc7chicago.com
Not sure how old he is here, but both eyes are tracking in the same direction and his eyes look brighter. I wonder, if they are even still open, if either of them had pictures on their FB.

 

[Bluebear15]

I've got a lazy eye and mine wasn't detected until I started school at age 5, though the usual type of eye test. I'm not sure how one could be detected in a 7 month old baby, as the test involves verbal interaction.
Jmo, moo

 

[LooksSusToMe]

I wonder if they tried to wipe their phones of all the photos they had of him, and that’s why they only had a couple options for media and their Missing Kid poster.

 

[Lucy6226]

I've got a lazy eye and mine wasn't detected until I started school at age 5, though the usual type of eye test. I'm not sure how one could be detected in a 7 month old baby, as the test involves verbal interaction.
Jmo, moo

My daughter had one which was picked up before she was verbal. They use eye drops to dilate the pupils and use prisms whilst covering one eye and then the other to test. They do not need verbal interaction. Moo

 

[agilbe]

I wonder if they tried to wipe their phones of all the photos they had of him, and that’s why they only had a couple options for media and their Missing Kid poster.

I sure haven't been able to find any of the poor little guy smiling!! That's so sad.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1959259573295976567

" 'Based on the evidence,
investigators determined a kidnapping in Yucaipa did not occur.
It is believed Emmanuel is deceased, and the search to recover his remains is ongoing',
Sheriff Shannon D. Dicus said in a statement.

Police raided the home after arriving at the home in tanks and cruisers
before taking them at Riverside County jail without bail."

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Does it look like her bruise doesn’t look any different than it did initially?

 

[LadyL]

This is an odd comment, I know, but it's been on my mind so I'll say it.

Their clothes are so CLEAN. I noticed his sweatshirt at the first tv appearance was so white, I wondered if it were brand new. Now seeing the arrest video, it appears they were woken up and quickly dressed, yet the whites are so white and the clothes are wrinkle-free (unlike many at-home comfy clothes).

I know that is a petty observation, but their clean attire is striking in comparison to how the outside of their house looks and in comparison to knowing a large amount of blood was found inside. The juxtaposition of clean and dirty is surprising.

I make no conclusions, just an observation of the laundry skills of someone in that household.

And just in case this is misinterpreted, I will note I find them absolutely deplorable and I AM NOT DEFENDING THEM just because I notice their whites are white. It's simply a detail that pops out (brightly).

jmopinion

I noticed that too.

Her court attire was crisp and clean too - white shirt, black dress pants. I forget what he was wearing.

 

[anyoldtime48]

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Does anyone have quick access to a video , or the happier picture of Emmanuel they can
post ? I see in the above post, @anyoldtime48 posted one ? Are you still around @anyoldtime48 to repost that. The only photo I have seen of Emmanuel, his one eye appears like he is already deceased, it is that haunting lifeless eye is the only photo of that poor baby I’ve seen. Thanks.

Here you go.

 

[su5ie]

Is he walking through cactus? I hope so.

Need the haha react

 

[Gigiky]

It defies any reasonable explanation that JH was treated so lightly for the child cruelty that resulted in such devastating and disabling injuries to his then-10-week-old daughter. Surely what happened to her is repetitive felony battery with aggravating circumstances (given that it was a young and defenseless infant victim who was in his care). Had he injured a non-family member adult so severely, one has to believe he'd have been incarcerated for a very long time. Instead, he served six months followed by 4 years probation for his June 2023 conviction. Probation which apparently did not include such reasonable measures as occasional checks to make sure children living under his care in his home were safe.

June 2023 conviction. Six months incarceration = released December 2023. Emmanuel was 7 months old when his disappearance was reported, so was presumably born around January 2025 and conceived around April 2024 (in the fourth month after JH's release from incarceration).

At the very LEAST, any deal that released JH into the community should have involved a vasectomy to ensure he could not produce more children to victimize behind the walls of his home and some kind of registration as a violent risk to children so others had fair warning to keep their distance and protect their children from him. More reasonably, he should have been locked up for life.

Link includes info re JH's conviction and penalty:

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/father-of-toddler-missing-in-california-has-felony-child-cruelty-conviction/

I am blown away that they didn't give this man years of time for what he did to his daughter.
I just do not understand how he skated by. It is just unimaginable.What a total garbage! JMO

 

[Arkay]

The egg carrier sure looks in a hurry to get to jail!

Yes, she was walking as briskly as she could while handcuffed.

I think yes, she didn’t want to be seen perp-walked on camera when she’d just been on camera fake crying and begging the “kidnapper” to bring back her baby.

You know, the “kid” they both just loved SO MUCH.

I imagine it was a humiliating moment for her, but IMO I think there was a trace of defiance. She didn’t hang her head the way some do.

JMO

 

[teeby]

It's developmentally appropriate for a baby to be on and off cross eyed until about 4-6 months old so it's hard to pick it up before then unless it's really significant like their eyes are never aligned. They can identify refractive errors from birth though by dilating the eyes and actually looking at the inside of the physical eyeball. They have to be old enough to match pictures and follow directions to be able to test their actual visual acuity (20/40 etc) but you can get a prescription for glasses (+7, -3, etc) at any age. Amazingly cool.

 

[Winterhike]

She doesn't mention if it was from birth. She says according to the doctor he is late in development but otherwise in great health and is fine. He just has a lazy eye.

Can you link this? Would like to see.

 

[Knox]

Yes, I'm curious about the timeline going back at least a year.

Specifically, though, I'd like to know when someone last saw little Emmanuel and why they picked the day they did to stage the fake kidnapping. And, I'd like a timeline for the days (weeks?) between his death and the fake kidnapping. What were they doing?!

I'm guessing we'll have to wait for the trail to learn that info.

jmopinion

Would we be able to see Rebecca's pre-natal medical records as part of this case, or does HIPPA kill that option? I'd be curious to know how her pregnancy went.

Some early medical records have to exist from his birth and shortly after at least.

Any guesses on what sets Jake the monster off? He can't stand hearing a baby cry at night, he's on drugs or drinking and just loses it? I want to know what makes him tick, including information about his childhood.

 

[Gigiky]

Baby Emmanuel Haro's parents arrested on suspicion of murder | abc7chicago.com
Not sure how old he is here, but both eyes are tracking in the same direction and his eyes look brighter. I wonder, if they are even still open, if either of them had pictures on their FB.

Agree both eyes are tracking in the same direction in this photo,but his little eyes look weary to me.
Also in the other pic where you can clearly see that something is wrong with one of his eyes,if you look closley at that pic it looks like he has a little scar in his eye brow. JMO

 

[Winterhike]

I wonder if they tried to wipe their phones of all the photos they had of him, and that’s why they only had a couple options for media and their Missing Kid poster.

If so, this actually makes me wonder if the kidnapping story was a change in plans. Maybe once he died, they originally planned to just erase all traces of him and hope there wouldn’t be too many questions and eventually he’d be forgotten. Obviously this is a flawed plan, but these two are clearly not masterminds. I wonder if there was an event shortly before 8/14 that made them decide they needed to make up the kidnapping story. Maybe the recent family funeral the grandmother mentioned?

 

[fred&edna]

It defies any reasonable explanation that JH was treated so lightly for the child cruelty that resulted in such devastating and disabling injuries to his then-10-week-old daughter. Surely what happened to her is repetitive felony battery with aggravating circumstances (given that it was a young and defenseless infant victim who was in his care). Had he injured a non-family member adult so severely, one has to believe he'd have been incarcerated for a very long time. Instead, he served six months followed by 4 years probation for his June 2023 conviction. Probation which apparently did not include such reasonable measures as occasional checks to make sure children living under his care in his home were safe.

June 2023 conviction. Six months incarceration = released December 2023. Emmanuel was 7 months old when his disappearance was reported, so was presumably born around January 2025 and conceived around April 2024 (in the fourth month after JH's release from incarceration).

At the very LEAST, any deal that released JH into the community should have involved a vasectomy to ensure he could not produce more children to victimize behind the walls of his home and some kind of registration as a violent risk to children so others had fair warning to keep their distance and protect their children from him. More reasonably, he should have been locked up for life.

Link includes info re JH's conviction and penalty:

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/father-of-toddler-missing-in-california-has-felony-child-cruelty-conviction/

why do i see count 01... sentence suspended, formal probation granted... ending up with him serving 1 day - per bottom of page 7 and continuing to top of page 8 in link

just double checking that i'm reading it correctly.

file:///home/chronos/u-634b56f38afc0451c32385688e908d1db8396c1a/MyFiles/Downloads/JH%20child%20cruelty%20.pdf