CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[Frodosdojo]

Frankly, this is quite a bold assumption. His ex-husband (from many years ago by the sound of it) does not know her current private life, so she must have done something bad to her now-adult daughters?

It is simply possible the mentioned ex-husband is not in contact with the kids nor ex-wife any more (very common, especially if he is in a new relationship). It is possible none of them are in contact for whatever reason. It is possible, that they are both in contact with the kids, but in these interactions they don't talk about the other parent at all, because there is no need and it is easier this way. It is possible, that they just don't share the private and romantic lives of their ex-spouses, as this is quite likely to be uncomfortable. And it is also possible the ex-husband was not (fully) truthful for whatever reason (such as distancing himself).

And if she is indeed in minimal contact with her daughters, that might hint at isolation as well, a common ingredient in DV.

Too many possibilities IMO.

I thought it was interesting the ex-husband said they had a normal relationship while married. He had nothing bad to say about her. When some people are divorced, they never speak to or ask their kids about their ex.

 

[Arkay]

you are a compassionate person. I can't find it in me for her just now. The longer this drags on the harder it is to see her as a victim, even if she is a victim of DV.

Same.
I think of myself as a compassionate person or I wouldn’t be on WS crying over so many tragedies. In real life I am quite the softie.

I just find it very difficult to have compassion for a woman who made a conscious choice to hook up with a man who pounded his own 10-week old baby into having 3% brain function and them choosing to have a child with him.

Why’d they even have a child? Did he need another sitting duck to prey upon? Needed a new target?

I know that sounds outlandish but really why why why have a baby with this man?

I certainly hope she hasn’t been abused but I still find it incomprehensible. There are other men in the world.

JMO

 

[steff13]

TY , I did see it. I just have a ton more questions. I dont think ,the 2 homeless people starting a fire ,is doing it for me. There has to more to those homeless peoples stories.IMO

Maybe someone paid them to do it?

 

[steff13]

Same.
I think of myself as a compassionate person or I wouldn’t be on WS crying over so many tragedies. In real life I am quite the softie.

I just find it very difficult to have compassion for a woman who made a conscious choice to hook up with a man who pounded his own 10-week old baby into having 3% brain function and them choosing to have a child with him.

Why’d they even have a child? Did he need another sitting duck to prey upon? Needed a new target?

I know that sounds outlandish but really why why why have a baby with this man?

I certainly hope she hasn’t been abused but I still find it incomprehensible. There are other men in the world.

JMO

I can't remember the exact quote but her mother said something about how she had wanted to have a little boy or something for years and years. And I believe her other three children are all girls. So maybe she was going to keep having kids until she had her little boy?

There are some women who just need to have a man. Any man. And to be fair to her, her family does come across as somewhat dysfunctional so perhaps she doesn't have the best decision making skills.

 

[LooksSusToMe]

Possible sighting of missing SoCal baby reported in Kern County, officials say

Possible sighting in Kern County

 

[kid_a]

Possible sighting of missing SoCal baby reported in Kern County, officials say

Possible sighting in Kern County

Holy crap. If that's a real sighting, I'll be amazed. I never even considered that it might be an actual kidnapping.

 

[CelticNorska]

JH has a known history of child abuse of a baby that also involved a former partner. This seems to me to be a possible repeat and escalation of that behaviour. Purely my speculation here, but I get the sense he is someone who might abuse the children as part of the abuse of his partners (evidence: the black eye) while making them complicit in it.

What could be worse than your partner beating you? Being made to watch them do it to your child, feeling powerless to stop it, and then being criminally liable and forced to try to cover up what happened. JMO

I actually briefly wondered if she gave the baby away to get him away from Jake. It was the first thing I thought when I saw news just now of a potential sighting. That the reason she stopped cooperating was fear Jake would figure it out, not the cops. Why the story was inconsistent, why her interview behavior was so "off" why she asked about the cameras...

The thing is, that thought is more than likely born from a place of my (admittedly naive) wishful thinking that Emmanuel could possibly be still alive. There are still too many commonalities with staged abduction filicide and I've been awake for all of 20 minutes so haven't really thought much beyond my what I'm writing here.

But you know a guy who routinely broke a newborn's bones is never going to change, but to get off that lightly and still have any parental rights at all?! Maybe she thought it was the only option.

 

[tlcya]

Holy crap. If that's a real sighting, I'll be amazed. I never even considered that it might be an actual kidnapping.

KERN COUNTY, Calif. (KABC) -- The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department says it's aware of a reported possible sighting of a 7-month-old boy who's been missing for nearly a week.
Possible sighting of missing SoCal baby reported in Kern County, officials say

LE don't sound real excited or urgent about this alleged sighting. Leads me to believe they either don't find it credible or have investigated it and found it not to be baby E. JMO

 

[mrsmmm]

I actually briefly wondered if she gave the baby away to get him away from Jake. It was the first thing I thought when I saw news just now of a potential sighting. That the reason she stopped cooperating was fear Jake would figure it out, not the cops. Why the story was inconsistent, why her interview behavior was so "off" why she asked about the cameras...

The thing is, that thought is more than likely born from a place of my (admittedly naive) wishful thinking that Emmanuel could possibly be still alive. There are still too many commonalities with staged abduction filicide and I've been awake for all of 20 minutes so haven't really thought much beyond my what I'm writing here.

But you know a guy who routinely broke a newborn's bones is never going to change, but to get off that lightly and still have any parental rights at all?! Maybe she thought it was the only option.

I actually didn't think of this angle. The fabricated the kidnapping to remove the child from potential/ongoing abuse. It's possible.

 

[Inthedetails]

KERN COUNTY, Calif. (KABC) -- The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department says it's aware of a reported possible sighting of a 7-month-old boy who's been missing for nearly a week.
Possible sighting of missing SoCal baby reported in Kern County, officials say

LE don't sound real excited or urgent about this alleged sighting. Leads me to believe they either don't find it credible or have investigated it and found it not to be baby E. JMO

Unless LE confirms it as legit, I'm not buying it.

But, wouldn't that be great?

Sigh.

jmo

 

[charminglane]

I'm selling unicorns from my Oklahoma beachfront mansion if y'all believe that.

 

[tlcya]

I actually didn't think of this angle. The fabricated the kidnapping to remove the child from potential/ongoing abuse. It's possible.

didn't happen with Jack and Lily Sullivan and I don't believe that is what happened here. It sure would be a more preferable outcome than the one I think is coming tho

 

[Inthedetails]

Same.
I think of myself as a compassionate person or I wouldn’t be on WS crying over so many tragedies. In real life I am quite the softie.

I just find it very difficult to have compassion for a woman who made a conscious choice to hook up with a man who pounded his own 10-week old baby into having 3% brain function and them choosing to have a child with him.

Why’d they even have a child? Did he need another sitting duck to prey upon? Needed a new target?

I know that sounds outlandish but really why why why have a baby with this man?

I certainly hope she hasn’t been abused but I still find it incomprehensible. There are other men in the world.

JMO

I've never considered it particularly compassionate to hope someone at the moment is not being beaten by her spouse, no matter what I think of that person.

I will continue to worry for her safety (at the same time I don't approve of her actions) until this is resolved, with the understanding that others do not worry about her safety. Got it.

jmopinion

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Father's car seized in search for missing baby Emmanuel Haro

Authorities have seized a car belonging to the father of a missing 7-month-old baby in their investigation into the boy’s disappearance last week in the Inland Empire. Details about why the car was seized were not immediately available. The new development in the search for Emmanuel Haro comes...

www.nbclosangeles.com

 

[mickey2942]

Possible sighting of missing SoCal baby reported in Kern County, officials say

Possible sighting in Kern County

Another really sad picture of Emmanuel. Don't they have any nice normal pictures of this little cutie? In a high chair? Sitting in a stroller? Playing with toys?

 

[CityKid]

I'm sorry, I don't necessarily think she's in danger.

ETA: I guess if I'm being perfectly honest, I'm actually not concerned if she is in danger. I mean, I haven't seen anything that shows that he is a threat to adults. One can say, if he would injure a child he would injure an adult, but that's not really true. It happens all the time the people abuse their children but not their spouses. Maybe I'm a terrible person, but I am not concerned about her safety regardless of the situation.

I'm concerned for her safety. If she was involved in any way with what MOO happened to Emmanuel, I want her to stay alive to face the rest of her life in prison. If she was not involved in any way, I don't want her to die "mysteriously" (i.e., an OD of prescription pills or something else that could appear to be suicide) at the hands of MOO the perpetrator. Depending on where and when (or if) Emmanuel is found, I fear there may not be enough (or any) evidence as to the cause of death, and the perpetrator could escape punishment.

 

[ttjo]

Ugh. I had to stop listening. The lawyer is putting the public and Banfield on the defense within seconds. I cannot stand that tactic. I've lived with it, recognize it, reject it.

jmopinion

I thought so too, especilly b/c he brought up " why havent the police released the missing poster" like they dropped the ball, feels like gaslighting. I think he was trying to get ahead of what had just come out about their personal numbers being on the posters. That was not a good look.
The police didnt drop any balls,
I hate that Badgering tactic too.

 

[CityKid]

TY , I did see it. I just have a ton more questions. I dont think ,the 2 homeless people starting a fire ,is doing it for me. There has to more to those homeless peoples stories.IMO

I couldn't figure out from that post 870 video how it was determined that those people were homeless. They looked more like random hikers to me.

 

[ttjo]

I couldn't figure out from that post 870 video how it was determined that those people were homeless. They looked more like random hikers to me

what about the contents? anyone hear confimation of what was in that dumpster"?

 

[CSIDreamer]

I probably missed it, but what's wrong with the baby's eyes?