CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

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  • #461
Sunset in Yucaipa is supposed to be at 7:31pm today, so maybe it was kind of dark? That's a good point though.
It looks like it was at 7:36 on August 14.
 
  • #462
Agreed ! ^^^

Like I said before, it's not unheard of for a perp to ambush someone to try to steal their car, but to try to grab someone's baby is highly unusual.

Maybe in a custody battle, but a complete stranger who says 'hola' aka 'hello'-- first before attacking you to take your infant ?
As soon as she turned to acknowledge the greeting, she could've identified the person; so why would they even take that risk.

Haven't heard yet if she heard a man or woman's voice.
Maybe that's b/c no one said anything of the sort that day ??
Hmmm.

Hoping for a break in this case soon !
Imo.
Yeah, saying hola to the person you're about to abduct a baby from just seems like poor kidnapping technique lol. So, they alert the mom to their presence (for what reason?) and also give her extra information she could use to identify them (the language they speak and presumably what they look like when she turns around when they greet her). It would have to be one careless kidnapper...
 
  • #463
all I can find that isn't RH's statement about lack of cameras is this:

It's unknown if there were security cameras in the parking lot that captured the alleged kidnapping. At this point, deputies have not put out a description for a potential suspect.
Yucaipa community comes together for vigil for missing 7-month-old boy after 'inconsistencies' found

where mom's statement was:

Nobody saw nothing, there’s no camera’s here, there’s no lighting.”

meanwhile, a stroll around the parking lot shows adequate lighting. I wonder if the area she parked had lighting that wasn't functioning (you know, coincidentally)
Sunset was at 7:36pm in Yupaica that night. There should still have been enough light to see (takes about 70 minutes for darkness after the stated sunset time in the south, up to 140 minutes in the north).
 
  • #464
It couldn't be that dark at 7:30PM in august.
She might of let a bit of her omitted preplan out. She probably in her mind planned it for dark time.
You know in your imagination slight details will be off.
 
  • #465
I’m just hoping enough evidence was found to get justice for this little cutie. Think we all know he may not be found unless someone folds under pressure.
 
  • #466
Do we know that E's car seat is in the middle? They also have a two yr old, so there must be at least two car seats in the back of the car. I haven't tried putting a car seat in the middle, but it seems like it would be difficult. Is there even a place to hook it to the car?

In any case. it would be difficult to change a baby in the back of a vehicle with two car seats.

But Mom says in this article she laid him in the back of the truck. More inconsistencies?
 
  • #467
What do you mean by "health conditions"? Maybe I've missed it, but the only thing about his health that I saw mentioned was the strabismus.
Per the parents, he has strabismus, and that can indicate other health conditions (CP, Down syndrome and others). That's why I wrote "health condition(s)" because strabismus could very well be his only condition.
 
  • #468
I’m just hoping enough evidence was found to get justice for this little cutie. Think we all know he may not be found unless someone folds under pressure.
Selfish , to put their kids ,not just this becky either, and families though it to try to save themselves ,which hardly ever works for people even with money . I never seen one of them have a heart attack over stress of it either. How much damage do you really want to do and when they catch you who is going to put money on your books ? No one. Make your family hate you before you leave forever. Go ahead. Get your face out there Like Susan smith. Your famous now bee yatch

Sorry I vent.
 
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  • #469
Not to be too picky about this, but I

Some times when i put an address in maps it will allow me to do streetview, not with this addy, 34579 yucaipa blvd.
It let me do a street view from your link, and I don't see any cameras on the front.

I saw a video of someone pulling into the parking lot, and this confirms what i thought--that store is very close to the street. Even if she was parked in the row closest to the building, someone driving by would've been able to see this alleged attack. And it looks like a pretty busy street. MOO
 
  • #470
It let me do a street view from your link, and I don't see any cameras on the front.

I saw a video of someone pulling into the parking lot, and this confirms what i thought--that store is very close to the street. Even if she was parked in the row closest to the building, someone driving by would've been able to see this alleged attack. And it looks like a pretty busy street.
I hard she was parked in the last spot next to the right hand side , close to where the cooking camper was parked. (cooking camper is my description of the stupid thing)
 
  • #471
I’m just hoping enough evidence was found to get justice for this little cutie. Think we all know he may not be found unless someone folds under pressure.
Emphasis mine.
Am hoping for the same !
 
  • #472
It let me do a street view from your link, and I don't see any cameras on the front.

I saw a video of someone pulling into the parking lot, and this confirms what i thought--that store is very close to the street. Even if she was parked in the row closest to the building, someone driving by would've been able to see this alleged attack. And it looks like a pretty busy street. MOO
The right side of her "truck " was pulled in right next to the line of shrubs. No view. So said the rumors . IMO.
 
  • #473
In interviews with local TV stations outside the store in Yucaipa, Rebecca Haro appeared with a black eye which she said she got from the assault. She called on anyone with information to come forward.
A mom says her baby was kidnapped. Her story has 'inconsistencies', police say.

that black eye is one of the most damning pieces of evidence in this farce IMO It is an older bruise from an injury received days before the reported abduction. MOO

Theory: mom received her injury sometime in the week prior to the 14th, Emmanuel was injured or died relating to the same incident in which his mother was injured. People were beginning to notice or were about to notice the baby was no longer around (school starting and siblings in the home possibly). A plan was hatched to explain both baby E's absence and RH's visible injury.

Her mother said something about the couple being homebodies. They live in a remote area. All just my own speculations
 
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In interviews with local TV stations outside the store in Yucaipa, Rebecca Haro appeared with a black eye which she said she got from the assault. She called on anyone with information to come forward.
A mom says her baby was kidnapped. Her story has 'inconsistencies', police say.

that black eye is one of the most damning pieces of evidence in this farce IMO It is an older bruise from an injury received days before the reported abduction. MOO

Theory: mom received her injury sometime in the week prior to the 14th, Emmanuel was injured or died relating to the same incident in which his mother was injured. People were beginning to notice or were about to notice the baby was no longer around (school starting and siblings in the home possibly). A plan was hatched to explain both baby E's absence and RH's visible injury.

Her mother said something about the couple being homebodies. They live in a remote are. All just my own speculations
That black eye is definitely old and well on the way to healed.
 
  • #476
In interviews with local TV stations outside the store in Yucaipa, Rebecca Haro appeared with a black eye which she said she got from the assault. She called on anyone with information to come forward.
A mom says her baby was kidnapped. Her story has 'inconsistencies', police say.

that black eye is one of the most damning pieces of evidence in this farce IMO It is an older bruise from an injury received days before the reported abduction. MOO

Theory: mom received her injury sometime in the week prior to the 14th, Emmanuel was injured or died relating to the same incident in which his mother was injured. People were beginning to notice or were about to notice the baby was no longer around (school starting and siblings in the home possibly). A plan was hatched to explain both baby E's absence and RH's visible injury.

Her mother said something about the couple being homebodies. They live in a remote are. All just my own speculations
Red emphasis mine.
About that .... if there are older kids -- they should be able to say when baby Emmanuel was no longer around ?

Even the best, contented babies fuss and cry and need a lot of attention !
The absence of a tiny human is going to have an impact on the entire household.
There'd be a deafening silence, and many questions from any kids who may have interacted with the baby.
Of course they'd miss him. 😢
Maybe LE could talk to them without either parent present ?

This is looking like there will be a terrible ending.
I'm so sorry for little Emmanuel if he is no longer with us.
Imo.
 
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  • #477
“I woke up here on the floor and I didn’t see Emmanuel.”

She said she had a black eye when she woke up.
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MOO and not from personal experience, if I woke up and my child was gone, I wouldn't be thinking about looking in a car mirror. I'd be running around and screaming.
MOO and from personal experience, a black eye doesn't show up immediately and it looks like hers does when it's in the healing stages.
 
  • #478
Red emphasis mine.
About that .... if there are older kids -- they should be able to say when baby Emmanuel was no longer around ?

Even the best, contented babies fuss and cry and need a lot of attention !
The absence of a tiny human is going to have an impact on the entire household.
there'd be a deafening silence and many questions from any kids who may have interacted with the baby.
Of course they'd miss him. 😢
Maybe LE could talk to them without either parent present ?

This is looking like there will be a terrible ending.
I'm so sorry for little Emmanuel if he is no longer with us.
Imo.
MOO perhaps the parents told them he was staying with grandma?
 
  • #479
I think she would have ended up with a head injury minimum if she was knocked out and landed on the ground. JMO
 
  • #480
MOO and not from personal experience, if I woke up and my child was gone, I wouldn't be thinking about looking in a car mirror. I'd be running around and screaming.
MOO and from personal experience, a black eye doesn't show up immediately and it looks like hers does when it's in the healing stages.
Bbm.
Agreed.
As would I !

And just saying -- I wouldn't be talking about my baby in the past tense-- as every fiber of my being would refuse to think my baby was no more -- unless I was shown remains.
Imo.
 
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