CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[ttjo]

@ttjo if true that would be pretty dumb, they could have called and blocked their number. But if that can be proven, great for proving premeditation and that Emmanuel was likely dead at that time.

yes!!! and why say it was a car, where theyd have to file a police report. They could have even said they left something left behind in a cart in the parking lot/ no need for a paper trail.
who knows if its even true ? Im doubting it now.

 

[steff13]

MOO, and this is just a random observation about this and many other cases, but so often in situations like this the families have next to no pictures of these kids.

I mean the first picture that they shared on the flyer of Emmanuel was terrible. You couldn't even see his face clearly. When I saw that picture I thought he looked like he might have some sort of a developmental delay. I don't know if he does or not I know they've said that he's cross-eyed but that picture definitely makes it look like there might be something else going on. Obviously that is going to affect someone's ability to identify him.

I currently am fostering six kittens for my local animal shelter. I've had them for a month and I probably have a hundred pictures of them on my phone. It's 2025, practically every adult in this country has a quality camera in the palm of their hand. It's not like decades past where you had to shell out a bunch of money for fancy equipment to take decent pictures. Why aren't there more pictures?

 

[LittleSeaTree]

I’m sorry I still haven’t figured out how to delete a quote that I didn’t mean to quote!

 

[mickey2942]

I don't understand how someone with a felony child conviction is even allowed to be around children.

"Emmanuel's father Jake Haro was convicted of felony willful child cruelty in June 2023 after he was arrested in Hemet, California, on October 12, 2018"

Parents of 'abducted' baby boy stop cooperating with police

Rebecca Haro claimed she was attacked from behind in front of a Big 5 retail store in Yucaipa, California, last Thursday and when she regained consciousness her baby son Emmanuel was gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Very rarely a woman abducts a newborn, because she lost a baby and is desperately trying to replace them or because she was faking a pregnancy, so that thought crossed my mind at first.

And then when she said it was a man, I thought maybe someone killed a baby and needed a replacement baby. So the story wasn't literally impossible.

However too much isn't adding up here, and too much indicates unreliable parents.

But I hope we will not become so jaded that someday when a baby really is randomly and violently abducted, we don't think it's impossible.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

As a left-handed person, I always carried my kids on my right to leave my dominant left hand free to do other things.

MOO

As a left-handed person, 99% of the time I always carried my kids on my left. They felt more secure there to me and I fumbled around with my right hand for other things. I would switch them if I had to sign something maybe.
LOL!
Just shows how everybody’s different.
I will say though, in my opinion, true right-handed people do very little with their left hands. The world is set up for them. Left-handers have no choice but acquire some basic right-handed skills. He very well may be left-handed.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm expecting an arrest soon, as I presume most of you are as well.
I do wonder though, who has jurisdiction here?
The "crime" allegedly happend in San Bernadino county but the parents live in Riverside county. Ironically, the Riverside county sheriff's office is practically a 5 minute walk from anywhere in Cabazon.

 

[NicMed329]

ETA: I watched the video and was remembering a detail incorrectly.

I felt like the mother was telling a fictional story, not reciting an honest memory.

Abusive relationships change you. Someday she will realize what life she could have had if she had left him the first time he showed who he was. All JMO.

If only it were that easy to just leave an abusive relationship. For women the most dangerous time is trying to leave a partner, statistically speaking. That is when the highest rate of murder occurs.

 

[Ontario Mom]

If only it were that easy to just leave an abusive relationship. For women the most dangerous time is trying to leave a partner, statistically speaking. That is when the highest rate of murder occurs.

While what you say is indeed true, we don't know if baby Emmanuel's parents had an abusive relationship at all. We know he has a violent history towards innocent, helpless children, but that's all we know at this point.

 

[Knox]

yes!!! and why say it was a car, where theyd have to file a police report. They could have even said they left something left behind in a cart in the parking lot/ no need for a paper trail.
who knows if its even true ? Im doubting it now.

I read it was that their car was broken into, not stolen. Yes, me too, time will tell what’s true and what’s fiction. Too many peeps out there spreading misinformation.

 

[ttjo]

I read it was that their car was broken into, not stolen. Yes, me too, time will tell what’s true and what’s fiction. Too many peeps out there spreading misinformation.

ahhhh yes ok, so something to make it convincing to the store about their reason for asking about cameras. a break in is more believable at least, (police report optional)

 

[curvecuti]

Very rarely a woman abducts a newborn, because she lost a baby and is desperately trying to replace them or because she was faking a pregnancy, so that thought crossed my mind at first.

And then when she said it was a man, I thought maybe someone killed a baby and needed a replacement baby. So the story wasn't literally impossible.

However too much isn't adding up here, and too much indicates unreliable parents.

But I hope we will not become so jaded that someday when a baby really is randomly and violently abducted, we don't think it's impossible.

I'd be interested to know how many times a child has been violently abducted by a stranger in broad daylight in public.

 

[NicMed329]

While what you say is indeed true, we don't know if baby Emmanuel's parents had an abusive relationship at all. We know he has a violent history towards innocent, helpless children, but that's all we know at this point.

Of course, and I agree with you. I wasn’t referencing this case in particular. I was responding to someone stating she will realize one day that she should have left when the signs began. I was stating that just leaving, in any abusive relationship, is not always easy or possible. I am not speculating on Emmanuel’s parent’s relationship.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

ahhhh yes ok, so something to make it convincing to the store about their reason for asking about cameras. a break in is more believable at least, (police report optional)

Sometimes stores claim they don't have working cameras in the parking lot, even when they actually do, because they don't want to be involved in every potential case. They have them to protect their own interests. So if someone had planned something in the lot based on what the store said, they are naive.

 

[Arkay]

If only it were that easy to just leave an abusive relationship. For women the most dangerous time is trying to leave a partner, statistically speaking. That is when the highest rate of murder occurs.

While what you say is indeed true, we don't know if baby Emmanuel's parents had an abusive relationship at all. We know he has a violent history towards innocent, helpless children, but that's all we know at this point.

IMO, both of these statements are true.

My take on it is that we are merely following the pertinent info from LE, that the mother’s narrative is inconsistent with the known facts. That leaves us speculating on every detail.

It’s statistically true that leaving an abusive partner is the most dangerous time, but this missing baby tragedy has forced the mom into a conversation with police, no matter where the truth lies. And since she has now engaged with the police, IMO this would be her opportunity to prove she’s a DV victim, if that’s the truth, and he would be arrested and she’d be safe for now. With time to make other arrangements for the safety of her and her kids.

If it’s NOT true that he’s abused her, then she needn’t fear for herself.

Just tell the truth, both of the parents, and locate Emmanuel whatever the truth may be.

JMO

 

[ChatteringBirds]

If only it were that easy to just leave an abusive relationship. For women the most dangerous time is trying to leave a partner, statistically speaking. That is when the highest rate of murder occurs.

Oh, with DV, I agree it's very difficult, maybe impossible, to leave.

I'm not judging that, but it's time to cooperate with law enforcement (LE) now.

This man had a criminal history, which would have been a red flag when she found out. Of course we don't know when that was. We don't know when his mask first slipped.

We don't know if she regrets the relationship now, or when it will hit.

Or what role she played in Emmanuel going missing, if any. Maybe it's not what it seems.

But if this was DV by him, IF, I wonder if she could have left sooner. Sometimes mothers are held criminally responsibile for staying, if children were being abused.
JMO.

 

[TMich6811]

Until we know that she had nothing to do with any of it. I’m really struggling with pulling out domestic violence right now.

 

[PNW]

Do we know that E's car seat is in the middle? They also have a two yr old, so there must be at least two car seats in the back of the car. I haven't tried putting a car seat in the middle, but it seems like it would be difficult. Is there even a place to hook it to the car?

In any case. it would be difficult to change a baby in the back of a vehicle with two car seats.

I had my son’s car seat in the middle seat because that is the safest place for it.

 

[UK Girl]

Until we know that she had nothing to do with any of it. I’m really struggling with pulling out domestic violence right now.

The black eye doesnt necessarily mean DV. It could have just been designed to be part of their "plan" for the supposed kidnap.

 

[tlcya]

I'm expecting an arrest soon, as I presume most of you are as well.
I do wonder though, who has jurisdiction here?
The "crime" allegedly happend in San Bernadino county but the parents live in Riverside county. Ironically, the Riverside county sheriff's office is practically a 5 minute walk from anywhere in Cabazon.

IF this case goes where we think it will

I believe it will be multi jurisdictional, with Riverside taking the lead if baby E is deceased and his body located close to home. I do hope San Bernadino prosecutes this mother to the fullest for knowingly making a false report that used county resources.