CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

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Given we already know he caused brain damage to an infant I think it’s very much within the realm of appropriate conversation to say it’s likely this infant may have experienced similar abuse resulting in a change in physical functioning
Oh I absolutely agree it's very likely this is an abused and probably murdered child. There's just been some discussion earlier in the thread about the presence of strabismus in a 7mo being inherently a red flag for abuse or medical neglect and by itself it really isn't.
 
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Replying to myself since I cannot edit post. This is the original video with gramma off to the left. About 1:40 you can see her lips moving. Concentrate on her while listening to RH speaking. Am I nuts, or does this come across as scripted?

Whoa! I watched this video several times and never noticed the grandmother off to the left. Very perceptive of you. This is blatantly scripted. IMO
 
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Whoa! I watched this video several times and never noticed the grandmother off to the left. Very perceptive of you. This is blatantly scripted. IMO
Thanks for confirming I am not totally off my rocker (yet). I sent the station a message asking if they got any wider video that includes gramma in full and explained why. Give their video editors something to do today while sucking down coffee. Could be they either did not see it, or they did and purposely cropped her out. I think they shot that before LE said "suspicious."
 
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I think his previous case, and his probation, and legal issues, overlap the time that Rebecca began dating him. She'd have to know about tha history of that criminal abuse.IMO
I agree. It was just 2 years ago that the courts handed him a 4-yr suspended sentence and they have a 2-yr old daughter, so that was already in the system before she got pregnant the first time. But of course he blamed all that on his then wife and I guess she believed him.
 
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There is no way she didn't know.

Surely probation if they got wind of him having a new child should have informed CPS?
 
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There is no way she didn't know.

Surely probation if they got wind of him having a new child should have informed CPS?

Depends on the specifications of his charges. Sometimes in these charges - biological children who haven’t been harmed aren’t included
 
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Another really sad picture of Emmanuel. Don't they have any nice normal pictures of this little cutie? In a high chair? Sitting in a stroller? Playing with toys?
There is one out there when he must have been a newborn, appears to be smiling and does NOT appear to have a wandering eye. Am still trying to find it from MSM as I have only seen embedded in YT videos. I will try to get a screen cap. Looked nothing like what family has supplied.

<modsnip: Image removed due to no link to source>
 
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Replying to myself since I cannot edit post. This is the original video with gramma off to the left. About 1:40 you can see her lips moving. Concentrate on her while listening to RH speaking. Am I nuts, or does this come across as scripted?


It certainly does appear as if grandma is mouthing the same words her daughter is saying.
"ready... hola... remember"

You are not nuts! Wow! I see it too. Is it scripted?


Oh goodness, I see it now, too!

Like a human cue card.

Good catch @anyoldtime48

I did not notice this AT ALL on first watch, I guess because I was focusing on the cognitive dissonance of the father. Yeah, sure, mister, hold onto your toddler and try to force yourself to weep about your baby son.

We know what you did to your 10-week old daughter, so no.

JMO
 
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Oh goodness, I see it now, too!

Like a human cue card.

Good catch @anyoldtime48

I did not notice this AT ALL on first watch, I guess because I was focusing on the cognitive dissonance of the father. Yeah, sure, mister, hold onto your toddler and try to force yourself to weep about your baby son.

We know what you did to your 10-week old daughter, so no.

JMO
Well ABC has seen my message. I would be shocked if they answer but perhaps they employ at least one "investigative" reporter who might care. Or the journalist who interviewed RH. He was likely more keyed in on her though. Wouldn't it be great if they found wider video and sent to LE? Although IMO LE already has a strong idea what happened and know gramma has an interesting track record.
 
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@ 17:35 Lauren begins with RH's brother James who's serving 50 years for killing his wife then she goes on to RH's nephew Charlie who OD'ed on fentanyl.

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Oh I absolutely agree it's very likely this is an abused and probably murdered child. There's just been some discussion earlier in the thread about the presence of strabismus in a 7mo being inherently a red flag for abuse or medical neglect and by itself it really isn't.
What made me wonder was his eyes seemed to be 2 different sizes. Then reading he was left in the car at the football game because he didn't have his vaccinations kind of triggered me. I realize there are many kids who aren't vaccinated but my mind went to . . . avoiding the doctor? All my musings and JMO as I really have no idea.
 
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@ 17:35 Lauren begins with RH's brother James who's serving 50 years for killing his wife then she goes on to RH's nephew Charlie who OD'ed on fentanyl.

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There is a camera at the liquor store across the street which per google maps street view can see the very spot where RH parked with NO vegetation in the way. Supposedly there is video, which apparently has not yet been made public. IMO LE has that.
 
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@anyoldtime48 wow! Good find. Emmanuel actually looks better with more muscle tone and an actual animation in his face.

Based on the comparison, it looks like Emmanuel has been seriously abused since his birth. Just my opinion.
 
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@anyoldtime48 wow! Good find. Emmanuel actually looks better with more muscle tone and an actual animation in his face.

Based on the comparison, it looks like Emmanuel has been seriously abused since his birth. Just my opinion.
It sure makes me wonder the cause of that lazy eye as it does not appear to be that way in the early photo of him. Granted too small to tell for sure, but easy to see he is looking animated and happy. My anger levels over the father unit in particular means I need an outlet. IMO RH is a battered woman and may be terrified of JH, but that is no excuse for her actions, or inaction.

Praying for arrest(s) and soon!
 
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Why bring the unvaccinated child at all if you're just going to leave them in the car? RH could've stayed home with him. This all feels [poorly] scripted to me, JMO.
 
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That is a strange “best picture” to have of your baby. It’s the periode parents & loved ones take the most and best pictures of a child.

Everything noticable shoud be as clear as can on the picture, it’s what makes him stand out against other babies.

As a mom of a babyboy this breaks my heart. Kids should/can NEVER be part of adults drama imo. He’s so vulnerable & needs around the clock care (food, diapers, possible medication, good temperature & hygiene). I can’t imagine losing your baby!
Just started reading on this case.....that poor baby looks scared? Unhappy? Very Sad. Absolutely no smiles. Something VERY wrong here. IMO
 
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Hi all! First time posting in this thread..
Reading the thoughts here that the father could have abused Emmanuel similarly to the child from his previous marriage, I was wondering how come the other 2-year old child is looking alright.
Then I remembered reading that in 2023 the father served 180 days prison time for his previous abuse. Do I remember this correctly? Is anyone able to verify it?
If so, could it be that he was in prison (read: away from home) while his 2 year old daughter was an infant?
Not that it matters to the investigation, rather it's just my curiosity in how such things can come about..

ETA: He was convicted on 06/08/2023 to 180 days in prison. So it's been about 2 years.
 
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the attorney represents dad only thus leaving mom to legally fend for herself. despite the father's history, i find this another very interesting bit of info that i don't like... no matter who nor what happened to this poor child.

jmo
 
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What made me wonder was his eyes seemed to be 2 different sizes. Then reading he was left in the car at the football game because he didn't have his vaccinations kind of triggered me. I realize there are many kids who aren't vaccinated but my mind went to . . . avoiding the doctor? All my musings and JMO as I really have no idea.
Right, I agree with you, this makes no sense at all. People who don't vaccinate on purpose are not worried about getting the diseases they could be vaccinated against, and healthy children of parents concerned about those diseases are vaccinated against many of them by 7 months. No one cocoons a healthy 7mo for fear of vaccine preventable diseases. It's just not a thing.
 
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