GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #1

[LittleMissContrary]

I just don't think her husband is involved. They are practically still in the honeymoon phase. I believe naivete will come into play. Someone used this young woman's trusting nature against her.

 

[killer Chaser]

Here's a few more that went missing out that way Michael Ewasko in 2010 Kristine Hamilton in 2008 Christina Battin in 2003. http://www.riversidesheriff.org/missing/ http://mdjonline.com/view/full_stor...ls-suspend-search-for-missing-east-cobb-hiker http://www.hikespeak.com/trails/contact-mine-joshua-tree/

Carla Reyes went missing from Yucca Valley on February 3, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/FindCarlaReyes https://www.facebook.com/LocateErin?refid=13

 

[JerseyGirl]

On Sunday [June 29], U.S. Marine Corporal Wayne Corwin started calling family members to see if they had heard from Erin, who had not been seen since leaving for Joshua Tree on Saturday [June 28].

"It was immediately concerning because she had already been gone for a day," Erin's sister-in-law, DeeAnna Heavilin said.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/...e-military-wife.html?comp=700001075741&rank=2

 

[JerseyGirl]

Corwin’s mother, Lore Heavilin, told The Oak Ridger that she and her husband are being asked by the Sheriff’s Department to not talk to anyone about the case. Heavilin and her husband traveled from Oak Ridge to California when they learned of Corwin’s disappearance. Heavilin said that she was waiting for a meeting with law enforcement officials. “We are supposed to have a meeting with their PR (public relations) people this afternoon and they will tell us what we can say,” she said.

http://www.oakridger.com/article/20140703/NEWS/140709942

 

[sophiebelle]

Well someone in the family finally said she was already gone a day when they found out. That has been my concern all along, but again, we don't know the circumstances of why. On another note, is this being controlled because of the military being involved? I always think the more attention the better. They would have to have a really good reason for me not to be shouting from the rooftops, to help find my child.

 

[JerseyGirl]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204432981487874&set=o.1527424624152874&type=1&theater

purple ribbons to represent hope for locating Erin

 

[SuziQ]

Well someone in the family finally said she was already gone a day when they found out. That has been my concern all along, but again, we don't know the circumstances of why. On another note, is this being controlled because of the military being involved? I always think the more attention the better. They would have to have a really good reason for me not to be shouting from the rooftops, to help find my child.

I waver on this. I've seen publicity be both positive and negative. It sure would be hard for me to stay quiet.

IMO, LE knows what happened and that public attention won't help in this case.

 

[sophiebelle]

I agree they know much more. I guess it's a wait and see. I think if they can find her, it will be solved pretty quickly.

 

[JeannaT]

I waver on this. I've seen publicity be both positive and negative. It sure would be hard for me to stay quiet.

IMO, LE knows what happened and that public attention won't help in this case.

I agree. This isn't a case where public attention will be positive. Public attention helps when:

1. There is someone missing because they got lost in a wooded area/state park, etc. The more people looking for them the better, and when large volunteer searches are used the outcome can be miraculous.
2. There is someone who has clearly been snatched by someone else and they have video or a good sketch and description and they need the public to ID the suspect from the video or drawing of the perp or a description of a very unusual car.
3. They have a case where a baby has been stolen and the public is made aware to look out for a mother who has a new baby under odd circumstances.
4. LE has been very sluggish and won't open an investigation even though the family strongly believes the person is in danger.

This case has none of that, and the public has been told they won't be allowed to help out. LE isn't even releasing where the car was found so people who might have driven that road might be able to jar their memories. Additionally, LE seems to have mounted a very large scale investigation and is doing all they can - the public isn't needed to spur them into action. The public, at this point, can only sit back and speculate. And that never works out well for the grieving family.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Well someone in the family finally said she was already gone a day when they found out. That has been my concern all along, but again, we don't know the circumstances of why. On another note, is this being controlled because of the military being involved? I always think the more attention the better. They would have to have a really good reason for me not to be shouting from the rooftops, to help find my child.

These, too, are observations/questions of mine...

However... I found it interesting that it is a military media source that reported the SIL found it concerning that the family wasn't alerted to Erin's disappearance until the next day... So I wonder if the military or the LE (or both) are trying to keep the information held in such tight rein...

But I have these questions:

- Is Military.com truly representative of the (military) government... Or is it a media source independent of the government...? :waitasec:

- The words of the SIL saying that they were concerned since they were not notified until a day after Erin's disappearance can be interpreted only that a day had already gone by... And the length of time in a missing person's case is of vital importance...(I.e.... The first 48 hours is crucial)

I hope this post makes sense... I haven't had a proper cup of coffee yet this morning...:coffeews

All... JMO

 

[Jessen]

- Is Military.com truly representative of the (military) government... Or is it a media source independent of the government...? :waitasec:

military.com is owned by Monster - a publicly-traded company on the NYSE. So, no.
defense.gov is the official news site run by the DoD. Most military sites affiliated with the DoD end on .gov or .mil.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

military.com is owned by Monster - a publicly-traded company on the NYSE. So, no.
defense.gov is the official news site run by the DoD. Most military sites affiliated with the DoD end on .gov or .mil.

Thanks, Jessen!

:seeya:

 

[Plumeria5]

It means zero to me that people who know the husband swear that he could never hurt her. We see it over and over. Even charming successful good looking men who are pillars of their church are plenty capable of killing their wife and covering it up.

If mine ever murdered me he would have to do it in front of a surveillance camera and walk around with blood on his shoes and bleach in his car to get caught. People would still swear he didn't do it. People are suckers for a charming man.

MOO


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Sometimes even for non-charming men, what with all of the church support that man in GA is getting who probably killed his baby...jmo

Thank you for those posts! Yes, Cooper's dad even got a "standing ovation" from his congregation. Unbelievable!

 

[sophiebelle]

Thank you for those posts! Yes, Cooper's dad even got a "standing ovation" from his congregation. Unbelievable!

The supporters got very quiet when more details started coming out. Imoooo

 

[Knox]

Wow, haven't been on in a few days. New format is so different, take some getting used to lol.

Just read a few news stories. Initial thought was uh-oh, here we go again, but trying to keep an open mind. Concerning that her phone went dead/or was off Saturday, that did not worry the husband immediately? Thinking we are not hearing the whole story, as SBSO has asked folks not to talk and probably the MP's as well. The details which would make this story less ominous may be withheld.

Her car being found not at the main gate, but a gate that has limited hours of access? Did she normally use that gate? Is there video surveillance there? If this were a random abduction, would someone really bring her car back to post and leave it? Scratching my head over that.

I have some knowledge of the surrounding area. My nephew lived in Joshua Tree for a couple of years, which for him hasn't been a good thing. Drug use, manufacturing and sales are rampant in this part of SB County. A little trivia for some of you; San Bernardino County is the largest County in the US, in terms of area.

Erin recently had a miscarriage and was pregnant again. I don't know, it sort of flys in the face of common sense to think she would be considering hiking at a critical point of this pregnancy (1st trimester). Just strikes me as a weird thing to do. Was her husband working that Saturday, I haven't found that mentioned anywhere?

 

[JeannaT]

Here's an article that was updated yesterday. Not much news but the lack of the statement that her cell phone had been found makes me think the two identical articles posted upthread might be wrong. This mentioned her cell was turned off, but not "found".

http://www.hidesertstar.com/the_desert_trail/news/article_ccd7c13a-02f4-11e4-ae31-001a4bcf887a.html

 

[Leomoon80]

Hi Knox: It was mentioned by a few that they too thought it "wierd" to believe she'd be hiking after losing one already. You make a lot of logical sense to point to the gate (photo or video) as well , the auto being found near there. In Japan, on a base there, Kelli Cribbs (I posted on her here when it happened) likewise, plain old "disappeared" and has never been heard from since. Her husband in the military there, so they did have a photo of her vehicle leaving the base that night. Yet they lived "off base". People wondered whether or not she met someone else there as the husband and wife were fighting off and on and doing marriage counseling with the pastor. Kelli had been to church just that same evening with her little ones, a baby boy and a little girl around 3 or 4.
Her mother said she too talked with her as she did via telephone almost every day. She sounded "upbeat" and asked that her mom provide the kids with warmer clothes, because they were being sent elsewhere and Kelli was hoping it was to a much cooler climate. Yet the husband claimed that Kelli left a suicide note saying something truly simple like one sentence, "I love my hubby, kids and family, bye". And more than likely others believed then she jumped off a cliff where her car was abandoned. I thought the entire story more than fishy, so I asked my daughter to ask the detective she worked for and he made a few phone calls and the mom heard from the Military people on base and off base. YET, the case was finally closed, nothing came of it, and the husband and two kids moved away from Japan with the service.

Oh well, cest la vie.

Kelli is much loved and missed by her mother, and half sister and everyone. She was like Erin, a trusting loving daughter.

Can't imagine it being a suicide, no way no how, IMO only. :twocents: Hope in this case they at least will locate the body as they never have with Kelli Cribbs. Can't even imagine it. No final conclusion will ever be known in that case.

ps. added: Kelli was not reported missing either until the next day sometime. Can't even fathom it. Yet it happens over and over again.

 

[necco]

All the articles I've seen said that Erin was scouting for an outing, NOT a hike. Maybe I missed those articles, but nowhere did I see hiking mentioned. An outing could be a road trip with a few stops. There are visitor centers and overlooks and such, all very touristy, all very easy to access, even in the heat. And let's face it, if Erin wasn't going to go out in the heat, she'd basically be spending her entire summer in her house.

 

[JeannaT]

All the articles I've seen said that Erin was scouting for an outing, NOT a hike. Maybe I missed those articles, but nowhere did I see hiking mentioned. An outing could be a road trip with a few stops. There are visitor centers and overlooks and such, all very touristy, all very easy to access, even in the heat. And let's face it, if Erin wasn't going to go out in the heat, she'd basically be spending her entire summer in her house.

Um hmm. When I looked through Google Images at Joshua Tree Park, it looks hauntingly beautiful. A young woman who is spunky enough to work with rescue horses would be spunky enough for the short drive to check out this beautiful and unusual park, IMHO. Prayers she is found soon and has miraculously survived whatever has happened to her.

 

[reversechapter]

The military won't allow a marine (stationed on a base at home) whose wife disappeared to assist her mother with handling media interviews? When someone disappears, you should be counting down the time in hours. Whether it's 48 or a few more, time is running out. I don't think the people arguing that public attention is unnecessary are putting themselves in the situation (and maybe they would argue that's a good thing, lol). The police have said they are treating the case like a "missing persons" case, yet they've also called in homicide investigators. A Facebook page was set up to ask the entire world to comment, and the Admins there are almost at the predictable stage where they're deleting more comments than they're allowing ("We did NOT set up this Facebook page so you people could come here and COMMENT. We set it up to tell you NOT to comment. I almost wish we hadn't set it up at all! Your speculation is ruining it for everyone"). There's the same old debate between advocating total secrecy and REALLY asking (making?) everyone who saw Erin last to PUBLICLY lay out what they saw. I believe the latter option is the best way to find a missing person. If someone close to the missing person is not responsible, it's still the best way to establish a timeline. Someone on the "Locate Erin" page keeps mentioning the old "the police don't want to jeopardize the case" line. However, exactly what is the priority? I'd be looking for my loved one first, and right now I wouldn't be so worried about the integrity of the case.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen a case where people are encouraged to be publicly open (I don't mean evidentiary details, but human observations). Maybe there's no way to force it. There's a language barrier, and I also think the way the most law enforcement agencies work needs to evolve. There are always nonsensical contradictions like the ones I mentioned. The only case where something close to true openness and crowdsourcing of ideas was utilized that I've seen recently was the Leanne Bearden case, which was a suicide. The police (correctly) said they DIDN'T suspect foul play, so there should have been no debate about letting the police "do their jobs." There was still a minor debate about it, incredibly. The husband, Josh, LOOKED kind of suspicious-y, but he stayed out there on Facebook answering questions and taking the hits until she was found in a nearby yard. Information was still missing about Leanne's activity leading up to her suicide. I believe her body could have been found sooner. After asking questions, we were told that she had grabbed JOSH'S backpack on her way out for a walk, for example. Also, he said his backpack was almost empty, and she exited through the garage (she clearly took a rope or something similar with her). Of course, I'm NOT NOT NOT suggesting ANYBODY knew what she was going to do, but only that the time frame leading up to her leaving the home was not covered in enough detail initially, perhaps for several possible reasons. Mostly, people are not told how important that interval of time is to figuring out what happened.

My point: More often than not, expecting people to be open in a public manner about what they heard and saw leading up to a disappearance certainly does not impede the effort of the police. If a police department asks people close to a missing person not to speak to the public, they'd better solve the case soon or expect a lot of deserved criticism. Otherwise, how do they KNOW which approach would have been more effective? If they aren't sure, why not do everything possible?