GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #8

[roadrunnermt]

No, not confirmed. It was told to me on FB in response to a question I asked by a report with the Desert Sun, I believe but yet again everyone's opinion is different too. I think I had asked a question to the media if any of them could maybe re-interview these two witnesses showing them a pic of NL and see if they could point out who they saw. Thanks for those videos, going to go rereview them myself!

Hi roadrunnermt :wave:
I have never seen any article saying these siblings were not credible. I have seen where people have left comments on FB and other social media outlets that are saying that. e.g., (scrolling down to the comments people write after reading articles)
After watching these video's, I find them credible myself. Those desert roads are very desolate, and I think it would be very easy to notice those cars where they were parked, if you were driving down that road. My opinion only.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/26028006/w...man-in-red-car


more of the interview

http://www.cbs8.com/story/26028006/w...man-in-red-car


BBM~
I don't think the witness' were seeking publicity at all. My thought is after they came forward with what they had seen, the media contacted/chased/hounded THEM like a pack of wolves ~ All for the sake of a first hand story. Notice that the reporter is the one that uses the the word "rendezvous," and then twists the whole story with the title
"Witness says missing Marine wife had rendezvous with man in red car." MOO~

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

I hope they have some sort of reason to search other than that it was the best first place to look, seeing as how she said she was going there that morning. People have been known to hunt/shoot in the area they were searching and it is only accessible with a 4-wheel drive vehicle (or on foot) so their search area may have been narrowed based around who they believed the perp to be and where he may have had a familiarity with.

Agreed. It is easy to understand why they began searching JTNP initially, but to continue to do so after LE continued to gather information is what made me question. Finding the car near the base would either point to the idea that she never made it to JTNP or that she had only stayed a short period of time there & already returned. However, since LE continues to search JTNP, it makes me think there's either video and/or witness testimony placing her entering/in the park, yet nothing showing her leaving. Just a question I've had...why would they keep searching there?

 

[TravelingBug]

I'm a wee bit freaked that it was stated in the media that the father of Erin's supposed baby was possibly her lover and not her husband. Why in the world would that have been reported?

Years and years ago, I had a friend who was having sex with two men at the same time. She got pregnant and, even though she terminated the pregnancy, she told one of the guys the child was his. She had no way of knowing that. One of those guys was about to marry, the one she told, wasn't. That still bothers me - 32 years later. It messed up some heads, for sure.

Well that was the whole basis for why she was spending the day with him. The "special outing" to celebrate.

It's the crux of why she was going somewhere with him and not actually going to JT alone to scout things out.

 

[NYC Girl]

I think that, if indeed something happened to her, it is most likely related to the pregnancy, which makes me believe we are on the right track carefully considering these pregnancies. I have a really open mind about them: I think it is possible she faked either or both, for her own reasons. I can see her telling a husband who is about to leave her over an affair, "Hey, I'm pregnant with your baby," on Father's day. If she was/is pregnant, she might have been fully planning to raise it as JCs, whether it was or not. Here's a thought: Word gets around that Erin is pregnant. CL thinks, wait a darned minute - why is JC happy about this? Why does he think it is his? Are you sleeping with your husband again? Oh, you're gonna pay for this. He then asks her if it is his. She says "of course." He says let's go celebrate but he is secretly furious because he now knows she has been sleeping with her husband again. Lovers can be incredibly jealous of spouses. - There are so many possibilities.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

I'm a wee bit freaked that it was stated in the media that the father of Erin's supposed baby was possibly her lover and not her husband. Why in the world would that have been reported?

Years and years ago, I had a friend who was having sex with two men at the same time. She got pregnant and, even though she terminated the pregnancy, she told one of the guys the child was his. She had no way of knowing that. One of those guys was about to marry, the one she told, wasn't. That still bothers me - 32 years later. It messed up some heads, for sure.

Yep, some people are freaks.

 

[Dmacky]

And (from the audio interview) is better than most at pulling random dates out of her memory in mere seconds without even pausing to think.....

Boy that's for sure! :giggle:

 

[missgulfsouth]

I think that, if indeed something happened to her, it is most likely related to the pregnancy, which makes me believe we are on the right track carefully considering these pregnancies. I have a really open mind about them: I think it is possible she faked either or both, for her own reasons. I can see her telling a husband who is about to leave her over an affair, "Hey, I'm pregnant with your baby," on Father's day. If she was/is pregnant, she might have been fully planning to raise it as JCs, whether it was or not. Here's a thought: Word gets around that Erin is pregnant. CL thinks, wait a darned minute - why is JC happy about this? Why does he think it is his? Are you sleeping with your husband again? Oh, you're gonna pay for this. He then asks her if it is his. She says "of course." He says let's go celebrate but he is secretly furious because he now knows she has been sleeping with her husband again. Lovers can be incredibly jealous of spouses. - There are so many possibilities.

Been following this case all along, just jumping in now. Can you explain why you think CL would be upset about Erin sleeping with her husband, when CL has a wife he is sleeping with, too? Cause that's the kind of logic that I just can't seem to wrap my head around.

 

[Love Never Fails]

No, not confirmed. It was told to me on FB in response to a question I asked by a report with the Desert Sun, I believe but yet again everyone's opinion is different too. I think I had asked a question to the media if any of them could maybe re-interview these two witnesses showing them a pic of NL and see if they could point out who they saw. Thanks for those videos, going to go rereview them myself!

JMO... I believe the two witnesses were very credible and shouldn't be criticized until the case is solved.

 

[NYC Girl]

Been following this case all along, just jumping in now. Can you explain why you think CL would be upset about Erin sleeping with her husband, when CL has a wife he is sleeping with, too? Cause that's the kind of logic that I just can't seem to wrap my head around.

Affairs aren't about logic but they are often about passion. They can involve intense jealousy. "You are mine; I've risked my marriage for you and you belong to me. You may be married to him, but you are actually mine. Don't be intimate with him. You save that for me and me alone."

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hi. I am just jumping in with a question. If that was Erin who got into the red car, does anyone know who the red car belongs to? Have the police identified it?

Before finding all these threads on websleuths, I had only read some national media reports. I haven't gone back to read all the threads so I know you guys know all the pertinent details that have come forth. It seems like they would have found the red car by now or someone would have come forward and said who they were....if it wasn't Erin and someone she knew or someone who is implicated in some way. I remember reading that CL has a jeep.

 

[cluciano63]

The release about the pregnancy and possible fatherhood by the media early on is the first thing that really offered a motive for murder. Until we heard about the affair, there was nothing to show that Erin was not simply lost or abducted by a random. Jmo

 

[maskedwoman]

Can someone please explain why I would need all of that? I just followed the link given in the scanner feed, clicked play, and it opened another window and started playing. What am I not getting about the tablet and subscription? Is there something I'm missing out on???!!! lol

TIA

I do know you need a subscription for certain things, but I just listen on my computer. No tablet needed. And since browsers all have tabs these days, you can do anything else you want while you listen.

 

[Cherry]

we have both concerned; poss parents of the baby planning to "meet" at JTNP that morning for photos and to hunt per CL. Hunting isn't allowed in JTNF or JTNP, his alibi is a very faulty excuse. All need to be discussed, because of the circumstances. And all theories, as well as profiling should be offered up. It only helps LE as they do follow this board, unknown to some. When you have both parties at the same location, or a plan to meet up at the same local and then one goes missing, that is Means Motive and Opportunity. The three golden rules to any investigation and I think this one, has enough to charge. I'm hopeful they will charge him when he returns to the mainland. But I also expect him to be a no show. So this is my theory, MMO has been met, they should soanar that horse ranch as well as 2 miles out of home radius and JTNP radius. Any new cemented in places in either properties should also be scanned. JMO and My Theory to date. It's scott peterson all over again imo.

 

[Cherry]

There is also a radio free scanner if the person using a tablet looks under apps for police scanners, you will find a few for free. Ipad and others. Radiofrequency also has an app I believe.

 

[Dmacky]

The information was stated in the Probable Cause Affidavit. Once disclosed, there was no keeping it quiet.

"JT, Erin’s friend in Tennessee, confirmed EC and CL were romantically involved and EC maybe pregnant with CL’s child. EC told JT that CL was worried if his wife discovered EC was pregnant, CL's wife would divorce him and keep him from his child."

JT forwarded those text messages from EC to LE.

The sad part is, that warrant was never supposed to be released to the public, and may in fact have compromised the whole investigation. Not to mention how devastating it has to be for Erin and Jon's families, and poor Jon as well! And the friend of EC's from Tn.'s name was made public, and she was only trying to help. Then throw in the court of public attention. It's just sad :frown:

 

[Cherry]

Me too; I'm sorry but from the get go it sounded like she was either covering for her, or making excuses for her. Not omg our Erin? Missing? She goes right to Nicole. Very suspicious, and poss POI to me. I would want to know if they had any storage facilities. Many in the service do, whether preparing to move or not. There are weight restrictions, and some usually get around this by renting storage. Has LE searched for storage in any of their names including anyone assoc with the ranch? I would have been all over that by now....and the use of a sonar scanner. My Theory and Profile so far, is that she was made missing due to her pregnancy; possibly by her lover. But we don't know; she also could have left her marriage but I don't see that as true as she took nothing, and had nothing on her to survive with. Unless she had someone pick her up from JTNP; and we have no knowledge of that. To me, the one source of her getting into a red car....he was very iffy to me. Very much so. JMHO

 

[missgulfsouth]

Affairs aren't about logic but they are often about passion. They can involve intense jealousy. "You are mine; I've risked my marriage for you and you belong to me. You may be married to him, but you are actually mine. Don't be intimate with him. You save that for me and me alone."

Just seems to me that he might consider applying that same illogical thinking to himself then, as well.
But what do I know?

 

[Cherry]

It also helps SOLVE cases. It's imperitive that most states let the sun shine on all documents related to a case. It helps to job peoples memories, and the court of public opinion has been here, since the dawn of time. We may not have villages any longer but we do still care, as a public body. And, the info should be made public. I don't feel so badly for her husband because we dont know him. We only know the facts that LE has come fwd with. Some states wont even do that, but in this case, having it all out on the table is the best thing possible for finding Erin. And I do hope our theories are wrong, I hope she is alive, I hope she ran away...I always want that sliver of hope...but in this case I fear for her demise, I fear he took her "out" that morning due to a threat to his marriage. There is Means Motive and Oppt. I think it's safe to say No One has been ruled out. Not really at this early stage.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hi all who are on this am. Anyone know who owns that red car?

 

[missgulfsouth]

You weren't asking me, but if I could weigh in, the only holes in the CL theory for me are hearsay re possibility of hubby did it (ALL HEARSAY/Gossip, but not from FB -- from military websites & comments there) that supposedly:

--EC/JC/CL/NL were all at a party the night before EC went missing, and tho they avoided eachother, CL still asked around who wanted to go hunting the next day (in front of EC/JC), and EC left early as she wasn't feeling well (both EC/CL were planning to 'get up early' the next day
--JC was off duty the day she went missing (was going to fill in for someone buy cancelled the day before)
--JC was the last to "see" her
--JC didn't report her missing for over 24 hours
--JC got inebriated and trashed his apartment some time after she left (and half his unit was called in to help clean up, but it was hushed up), showing possibility of his being physically violent when upset
--IF the red car sighting was legit, the description of the man in the red car sounds more like JC than CL (short, light-colored hair, short stature). Maybe he followed her that morning to see what she was up to and intercepted her before her meeting CL? NL helped move the car after the fact...

Dunno, just speculating there could be some circumstances under which JC could be involved, but since there is so little info from LE, it's hard to say. Just MOO!

BBM. Is this a known fact or FB rumor? If this is true ... wow. Very telling.