GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #8

[rosesfromangels]

BTW, it is my OPINION only that the L couple all hunkered down in the cozy confines of Alaska shouldn't be unpacking. Jus sayin....
Opinion only.

 

[nikb]

I hope they will plan more searches as well. The "big push" is leading to a variety of thoughts, and I do hope this is the Big Push to Get Started, not the Big Push for the finale.
IMOO.

I keep kind of 'flashing back' to the Mike Herdman case. They didn't call it a "big push" but IIRC they had scaled back to weekends only and minimal search teams, and I remember feeling really disheartened that they'd never find him. Then lo and behold an observant pilot who was bringing in some of the weekend searchers spotted him. So even if this is a "big push" weekend search for Erin and then a scale back, as long as anyone at all is still out searching I keep hoping maybe they will find her.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

Do you suppose the mandible fits into all of this? :thinking:

 

[shadetree44]

Just my opinion folks. I have not speculated to this point but I mapped the travel time from center of 29 Palms to the long/lat published earlier. The travel is 58 minutes via Google Maps (one way). Allowing a small cushion of say 10 minutes each way during travel, now total travel 68 minutes (one way) total time (2 hours 16 minutes) that allows approximately 40 - 50 minutes to accomplish mission. Exit and re entry into vehicle, some small talk and Shoot, Shovel or drop remains. Leaving 29 Palms approx 7:15 to 7:30 and vehicle exchange (witness sighting) taking place @ 10:00 or 10:30. At least the time line fits. Again, this is total speculation on my part. I have never been to that area so I had no idea as to distances and road conditions until now. As I had said early on, if the sighting was correct and the approximate departure times were close, all is needed is to calculate how far a person could travel, complete the mission and return. This would give a radius of the area to search. I hope this was a successful search and EC can come home. Peace to all!

 

[Treelights]

I have to say, I have a problem with JC claiming that he was unable to speak about his wife's disappearance if the below statement by the Public Affairs officer is correct. I do not believe that this is just a case of misinterpretation or miscommunication. I assume that the Public Affairs officer would have asked JC's command if he/she told him not to speak before making a public statement to the fact. I also find it interesting that the issue of him speaking with the media was even addressed by the Public Affairs officer at all....unless they wanted the public to know that not only was he not told that he couldn't speak to the media but he was informed that he absolutely had a right to speak to them.

“What I can tell you at this time is that on June 30th, Cpl. Corwin’s command informed him of his right to speak with the media and placed him in a duty status that would give him time off for the next 30 days,” Marine Lt. Col. Stewart Upton said via email. “Media outlets requested to interview Cpl. Corwin via the Public Affairs officer at Marine Corps Base Twenty-Nine Palms, and Cpl. Corwin declined those requests.”

http://www.sbsun.com/general-news/2...marines-pregnant-wife-taking-new-twists-turns

I think perhaps the Public Affairs Officer addressed it, because it was News..., even though there was no news...
and it looks like if Erin's husband wanted to address the media, he would Have to go through the Public Affairs Office.
IMOO.
I found this link about the Public Affairs Office:

http://www.militarynewcomers.com/29palms/resources/04_services.html

"PUBLIC AFFAIRS"

" The Public Affairs Office is located in Bldg. 1417. Public Affairs acts as an internal information outlet providing a twice-weekly news radio broadcast on three local radio stations, a daily news briefs slide show on Command Cable channel six, and daily Speedcall updates, as well as publishing the Observation Post, the Combat Center’s weekly newspaper. Highlights from each week’s newspaper are placed on the PAO Web page at http://www.op29online.com. Free classified advertising is available in the OP for active duty and retired military personnel and their family members, as well as Combat Center civil service workers. The deadline for submitting ads is noon Friday, the week prior to publication. The Public Affairs Officer is the Combat Center’s sole release authority for information about the command, its activities or personnel. Personnel contacted by media should refer them to the Public Affairs Office at (760) 830-6213."

"The Public Affairs Office also coordinates outside requests for equipment, the color guard and tours. Tours are conducted on the first and third Wednesday of each month between September and May. For more information contact the Public Affairs Office at (760) 830-3735."

 

[cluciano63]

I am pretty sure that is not from mainstream media, lol
Probably can't be posted here...maybe check with a Mod?

 

[77DarkHorse7]

I am pretty sure that is not from mainstream media, lol
Probably can't be posted here...maybe check with a Mod?

No, I already tried posting it earlier, but it got flagged, I had to snip the link.

 

[maskedwoman]

I am pretty sure that is not from mainstream media, lol
Probably can't be posted here...maybe check with a Mod?

I don't think I can post the words I would use to classify that 'article'.

 

[RSC]

I am actually inclined to agree with your statement that LE is handling this poorly, at least from a PR perspective. No, they don't owe the public anything. And yes, I believe they probably know what they are doing in terms of solving the case.

But they haven't explained to people why the public can't help search.
More importantly, there have been significant mixed messages. One day the disappearance is suspicious, the next day voluntary can't be ruled out.

Most importantly, if this case never gets solved, the release of some information and not other means that NL, CL and even IM will always have a huge shadow of doubt hanging around them. Which is entirely unfair if any of them are completely innocent.

Here we go. LE has been doing such a poor job on this case, it was only a matter of time, now all the headcases, conspiracy theorists and nutjobs are coming out of the wood work:
<snipped by me>

This idiot doesn't even know how to spell cache. Not to mention that everyone knows CL lied when he said he 'only kissed Erin but there was no affair'. Plus why would she forget the evidence she was going to show Chris in the car, especially when she went to the passenger side that morning to get something. If this stuff was there wouldn't she have taken the evidence with her? Give me a break!!

good idea using <snipped by me> though. I should have thought of that for those damned riddles early on.

(sorry, just commentary on what some have already seen that's it, and trust me it's not all that important)

 

[cluciano63]

Imo, LE often does not want the public searching, more so lately. Maybe there are liability issues. Also, people get lost while searching, get injured, have heat stroke, etc...

 

[carbuff]

Looking at aerial views of the area they think she must be, it looks like a really good place to get snake bite, heatstroke, dehydration -- not to mention falling down a half-hidden mine shaft. Maybe experienced hikers/outdoorspeople could be helpful, but it's not a place I'd want the general public crawling all over.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

Looking at aerial views of the area they think she must be, it looks like a really good place to get snake bite, heatstroke, dehydration -- not to mention falling down a half-hidden mine shaft. Maybe experienced hikers/outdoorspeople could be helpful, but it's not a place I'd want the general public crawling all over.

Yeah, ... Too bad it's a national park then, huh?

 

[RSC]

Exactly. This bothers me. There are very experienced hikers who would help. If it is truly because they don't want a crime scene tampered with, then why say she could have left voluntarily?

Yeah, ... Too bad it's a national park then, huh?

 

[RSC]

Oops, double post...

 

[rosesfromangels]

Exactly. This bothers me. There are very experienced hikers who would help. If it is truly because they don't want a crime scene tampered with, then why say she could have left voluntarily?

Well just guessing, but aside from the possibility of goofing up a crime scene, it might be a liability issue. That's dangerous terrain.
And, since it is a military operation, they dont want to have to manage civilians?

 

[katydid23]

Yeah, ... Too bad it's a national park then, huh?

It is a national park. But I remember when I was googling it at the very start of this case, there was an advisory on the official website, warning people away in July and August because of the desert heat. Searching is way more tiring, and difficult, than just strolling through the park to eat lunch.

I think there is a liability issue because of the timing. jmo

 

[smc1225]

Well just guessing, but aside from the possibility of goofing up a crime scene, it might be a liability issue. That's dangerous terrain.
And, since it is a military operation, they dont want to have to manage civilians?

As far as I know - this isn't a military operation. Also, they do have volunteer searchers helping. I believe there is a group that does searches in coordination with LE. This was mentioned during the first scanner call that was published. The LE was at JTNP and the dispatcher told them to come back because they have search crews that could do that. They have also mentioned (on the scanner feeds) that volunteer searchers were also coming out.

 

[maskedwoman]

Yeah, ... Too bad it's a national park then, huh?

So is the Great Smoky Mountains, but you can still get heat stroke, fall off an overlook, eaten by a bear or bit by a snake.

 

[sophiebelle]

I've always thought that when what you're doing is not working, then you do something different. Erin has not been found and unless they know much more than they've said, this is not working. If that was my daughter, nobody would tell me what I could or couldn't say at this point in the game. The only thing I can think of is whatever the rangers said/saw, they are convinced beyond doubt that Erin went into the search area and never came out.

 

[cluciano63]

Is LE ordering people not to search? I don't see how that would be possible. Or are they just not asking public for help?

To be honest, I am not even sure that a big organization like TES for instance, would come in even if asked, if LE does not have a reasonable idea and search area to be examined. Not sure how much land this park entails, but I imagine it must be many thousands of square miles?