Found Deceased CA - Erin Valenti, 33, from Utah, en-route from Palo Alto to San Jose, 7 Oct 2019 #2

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On Twitter, user @MariaKPIX (a reporter) posted two photos at 7:27 PM - Oct 12, 2019, one of the police at the death site, and the other of friends and family members crying nearby. Many Twitter users are begging Maria to take down the photo of the crying family members (identified as husband and parents by one user), calling it an intrusion on their grief.

itès too late
itès been out there for awhile - people have shared, people have screenshotted, it wonèt disappear from google now
 
  • #302
guaranteed some of our group are also pestering her family and friends
I'm sorry to hear that -- given it violates our rules on thread, but I suppose some just can't help themselves when logged off.
 
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itès too late
itès been out there for awhile - people have shared, people have screenshotted, it wonèt disappear from google now

Just to emphasize, once something is shared or logged, in any way, there's zero guarantee that it can ever be deleted or removed.
 
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Sadly, conspiracy theorists are running rife on the hashtag..
Like locusts.
 
  • #307
guaranteed some of our group are also pestering her family and friends

Absolutely. Sad, but true. And it gives me the willies.
 
  • #308
So much occurs behind the anonymity of SM. People feel free to make judgements and assumptions and to put them out there, mostly because this can be done without actually looking at the recipient in the face and seeing the result of the comment. Folks don't have to deal first hand with the tears or anger that their comments cause because they don't have to see it. MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #309
When my brother died in March, we had a pretty good idea of what happened (overdose) but we couldn’t be 100% sure. And if it was in fact an overdose, we didn’t know if it was accidental or intentional. My mom couldn’t accept anything other than the official ruling/autopsy results, which took almost 6 months.

Her family may know what happened, they may not. Jmo.
 
  • #310
When my brother died in March, we had a pretty good idea of what happened (overdose) but we couldn’t be 100% sure. And if it was in fact an overdose, we didn’t know if it was accidental or intentional. My mom couldn’t accept anything other than the official ruling/autopsy results, which took almost 6 months.

Her family may know what happened, they may not. Jmo.
I'm so sorry for your profound loss. Thanks for trusting to share it.
Your words are wise and accurate.
EV may have been dead for 7 days... it will take time for sure.
 
  • #311
Sadly, conspiracy theorists are running rife on the hashtag..
Like locusts.
Yeah I saw conspiracy theories all over other sites yesterday. Really really crazy.
 
  • #312
Yeah I saw conspiracy theories all over other sites yesterday. Really really crazy.
They're ruthless and horrible..
If that was a member of my family being used in a horror story of their creating, I would go stir crazy and sue every one of them personally.
 
  • #313
I'm so sorry for your profound loss. Thanks for trusting to share it.
Your words are wise and accurate.
EV may have been dead for 7 days... it will take time for sure.

I am wondering how someone can be dead in the backseat of a car, parked in front of someones house, for 7 days and nobody noticed?
 
  • #314
I am wondering how someone can be dead in the backseat of a car, parked in front of someones house, for 7 days and nobody noticed?
I thought this at first too, but then I started thinking of my own experience. There are always cars parked on my street, different cars visiting different people and I realized that I NEVER pay any attention to those cars. Some people on my street have nannies, a college student has friends over when she’s home, people having social meetings, brunches all the time, family visiting, there’s a thrift store down the street and people park on our stretch of street for that sometimes...on and on...
I run with my dog all the time past cars on my street, right in front of my house, and I have never once thought to look in the backseat of any of those cars. And with tinted windows? I never see anything or even think about it. It probably depends on the particular street, but I can see a car being parked on my street for days and no one even noting it. If there were a body in the backseat...no one would know sadly. :(
 
  • #315
Clinical pharmacology assumes that deductions can be made about the concentrations of drugs from a knowledge of the pharmacokinetic parameters in an individual; and that the effects are related to the measured concentration. Post-mortem changes render the assumptions of clinical pharmacology largely invalid, and make the interpretation of concentrations measured in post-mortem samples difficult or impossible. Qualitative tests can show the presence of substances that were not present in life, and can fail to detect substances that led to death. Quantitative analysis is subject to error in itself, and because post-mortem concentrations vary in largely unpredictable ways with the site and time of sampling, as a result of the phenomenon of post-mortem redistribution. Consequently, compilations of ‘lethal concentrations’ are misleading. There is a lack of adequate studies of the true relationship between fatal events and the concentrations that can be measured subsequently, but without such studies, clinical pharmacologists and others should be wary of interpreting post-mortem measurements.

Keywords: forensic pharmacology, autopsy, post mortem, drug-blood-level, tissue distribution, redistribution
Post-mortem clinical pharmacology
 
  • #316
I doubt very much that Erin's post mortem toxicology screening will show anything at all
Here is why, from above link too

The term ‘post-mortem redistribution’ was used by Koren and MacLeod in the title for their 1985 paper on changes in digoxin concentration after death, based on experiments in the rat [45]. They administered radio-iodine-labelled digoxin to rats 2 h before death. Concentrations measured at death and 12 h aftewards showed a mean heart : blood ratio of 10.6 and 0.9, respectively. They concluded that ante-mortem digoxin concentrations cannot be reliably inferred on the basis of high post-mortem levels of the drug alone(emphasis added).

In the 30 years following the observations of Holt and Benstead, a wide range of potential difficulties in interpreting post-mortem concentrations has been uncovered, and the phenomenon of post-mortem redistribution of drugs has fully justified its description by Pounder and Jones as ‘a toxicological nightmare’[7].

It is also possible for drug to be gained or lost from the system, e.g. by evaporation or absorption from the environment. Secondly, the drug can be altered as the result of physicochemical change in the post-mortem environment. For example, as pH changes, so the state of ionization of the drug may change. The drug itself can undergo chemical change. Morphine, for example, can be measured as free or total drug, the latter including both the conjugated metabolites morphine-3-glucuronide and morphine-6-glucuronide. Post-mortem hydrolysis increases apparent free morphine concentrations [50].
Post-mortem clinical pharmacology

I have no belief in the theory that she knowingly ingested drugs. 2 reasons
1. Her husband said so.
2.She as a mountain climber.

I'm feeling hypertrophic cardiomyopathy but I'm not sure that has a lead-up time...
Late onset diabetes?
Infection leading to delirium/sepsis/ death? Viral or bacterial.
 
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Infection leading to delirium/sepsis/ death? Viral or bacterial.
Even after reading so many other well thought out theories here, I go back to this, because I saw it happen to my own husband. At first, it was subtle and I thought he was just over tired. By the fourth day, he was eating his cereal without milk and looking at me in confusion when I asked him if he wanted milk. He thought he had it.
He got dressed and headed out the door at 11 am for a meeting he had at 7 that evening. He sat down on the couch and fell asleep and woke up an hour later and repeated the same attempt to go to the meeting with no memory of the previous conservation.
He was taken to the hospital in an ambulance and given heavy doses of antibiotics and within 3 days he was back to his coherent self. It was a common Pseudomonas infection that became systemic.
This happened over 4 days and I have a medical background and only see the course of infection now. There was no fever, no lethargy, no other symptoms other than the confusion and irritability. I knew he wasn't right but it didn't seem to have an urgency.
So much of what is reported here sounds like this. MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #318
Infection leading to delirium/sepsis/ death? Viral or bacterial.
Even after reading so many other well thought out theories here, I go back to this, because I saw it happen to my own husband. At first, it was subtle and I thought he was just over tired. By the fourth day, he was eating his cereal without milk and looking at me in confusion when I asked him if he wanted milk. He thought he had it.
He got dressed and headed out the door at 11 am for a meeting he had at 7 that evening. He sat down on the couch and fell asleep and woke up an hour later and repeated the same attempt to go to the meeting with no memory of the previous conservation.
He was taken to the hospital in an ambulance and given heavy doses of antibiotics and within 3 days he was back to his coherent self. It was a common Pseudomonas infection that became systemic.
This happened over 4 days and I have a medical background and only see the course of infection now. There was no fever, no lethargy, no other symptoms other than the confusion and irritability. I knew he wasn't right but it didn't seem to have an urgency.
So much of what is reported here sounds like this. MOO MOO MOO

Easy for her to miss the symptoms, v hectic few days course and meetings and lots of socializing , hot weather, lack of sleep, pseudomonas is one but there are many... herpes encephalitis manifests in a similar way..meningitis too... any bacteria that could bring about swelling inflammation ...
 
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I thought this at first too, but then I started thinking of my own experience. There are always cars parked on my street, different cars visiting different people and I realized that I NEVER pay any attention to those cars. Some people on my street have nannies, a college student has friends over when she’s home, people having social meetings, brunches all the time, family visiting, there’s a thrift store down the street and people park on our stretch of street for that sometimes...on and on...
I run with my dog all the time past cars on my street, right in front of my house, and I have never once thought to look in the backseat of any of those cars. And with tinted windows? I never see anything or even think about it. It probably depends on the particular street, but I can see a car being parked on my street for days and no one even noting it. If there were a body in the backseat...no one would know sadly. :(

yeah I don't notice them much either, even when it's right in front of my house
 
  • #320
RIP Erin.
 

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