CA - Five Ucar family members found dead in San Clemente home, 25 May 2008

[Tom'sGirl]

From the forums. But the mods are trying to get us off the forums and into the *Publish your stuff* section; which is the comments. It's is 95% men and we discuss high school football.

I'm reading the forums now, I'll see if I can spot you :crazy:

 

[JBean]

I'm reading the forums now, I'll see if I can spot you :crazy:

hahaha Maybe I'll make a post only you can decode.

 

[philamena]

This will give you an idea of some of the nice folks over there.
Here's a pm I got from another poster a month or so ago:

>>HI!


Just in case you're wondering, your new thread is (overwhelmingly) the lamest one currently on the board. Congratulations, ma'am! Your queen of the idiots!

C<<

I can't believe someone sent that ridiculous comment to you JBean. Your post are always well thought out.
I have no idea where that forum is and I'm glad I don't. lol

 

[JBean]

I can't believe someone sent that ridiculous comment to you JBean. Your post are always well thought out.
I have no idea where that forum is and I'm glad I don't. lol

oh they just try and make people mad. I took the pm and posted it on a thread over there lol.
The funny thing is the pm was from a guy pretending to be another guy. They make hats like philamena_ and you can't see the underscore when their name shows. Then they c&p the avatar and make naughty posts and send mean pm's. grown men! lmao.

 

[philamena]

Lordyb. Grown men with minds of a 13 year old. lol

 

[noZme]

Floh saiid
"Gosh, those girls were beautiful. not that that makes any difference at all."

did you see how much they look like their mother? a strong family resemblance, bet she was a beautiful young woman too

 

[SewingDeb]

I was thinking the same thing, noZme. They do seem to get their looks from their mother.

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9404467

A sheriff's spokeswoman says the five family members found dead and decomposing in a home in an upscale, gated community were all wearing black clothing. (more at link)

 

[IdahoMom]

I'm wondering if the mom or dad had discovered they were terminal or something, so they had a suicide pact and decided the elderly mother and daughters should die, too.

This is such a sad story and the deaths are so unnecessary. I will never understand why some decide their family members need to accompany them in death.

 

[trixie]

I wonder if the elderly mother somehow killed the twins and then herself and the parents came home and found them and committed suicide pact bacuse they couldn't deal? Why were the twins in the same bed? When Andrea Yates (and others) drowned her children she laid them in bed side by side. These girls were 21 so if Granma did it it would have to be poison or something similar I would think. Of course all this probably didn't happen this way but I'm throwing ideas out there just like everybody else.

 

[DeltaDawn]

So now we know why the girls were not missed at school!



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24846403/

In these pictures as well as the yearbook pictures of the twins, they all seem to be wearing black. Maybe they all wore black frequently and it isn't related to what happened that day.

I can't even imagine what would make a nice, conservative, family of five with the grandmother included, murder each other then themselves. With two guns it almost sounds like either a pact or a showdown. What could have been so horribly wrong that none of them could stop what was happening, call 911 or did they want to die? sO, SO VERY SAD

 

[SuziQ]

You would also think there would be a suicide note.

 

[Rum Tum Tugger]

Quickie post as I'm halfway out the door ...

This case will be discussed on Nancy Grace this evening. 8 PM - 10 PM & 1 AM EDT

Rummy

 

[JBean]

Quickie post as I'm halfway out the door ...

This case will be discussed on Nancy Grace this evening. 8 PM - 10 PM & 1 AM EDT

Rummy

Thanks RTT.
The radio is discussing this now and have just gone through the decomposition process that they were found in great detail. Holy smokes it is radical.
There seems to be a lot of concern about where they were located, arranged and of course the black dress. They are testing the clothing for clues as well.

 

[JBean]

OH here is something interesting. They just said if you ever have a situation like this, look at the windows and if there are flies collecting in them or in the doorways, you best call 911 because the flies are after the decomposing bodies.

 

[IdahoMom]

Thanks RTT.
The radio is discussing this now and have just gone through the decomposition process that they were found in great detail. Holy smokes it is radical.
There seems to be a lot of concern about where they were located, arranged and of course the black dress. They are testing the clothing for clues as well.

**post below not for those with a weak stomach**




JBean, I remember watching a show about decomposition once. I was surprised at how quickly people, in an indoor setting at normal temperatures, become unrecognizable. If I remember correctly, the flesh becomes gelatinous pretty quickly too.

 

[JBean]

**post below not for those with a weak stomach**




JBean, I remember watching a show about decomposition once. I was surprised at how quickly people, in an indoor setting at normal temperatures, become unrecognizable. If I remember correctly, the flesh becomes gelatinous pretty quickly too.

well they explained it pretty well Remember, we have had 90 -100 degree weather over the last few weeks and the house was completely closed up. think about that.

 

[IdahoMom]

well they explained it pretty well Remember, we have had 90 -100 degree weather over the last few weeks and the house was completely closed up. think about that.

Ugh...that would not be a normal indoor temp. I really feel for the family members that entered the home and for the people that have had to process the bodies.

JBean, you said before that homes in that enclave aren't selling as easily as some others in the area. I would think that this might make the house even more difficult to sell.

 

[philamena]

The detail about the black clothing, Giudice said, only made her more reticent. "I certainly don't want to name someone as a murderer."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4949232&page=1

 

[reb]

i can't help but wonder if there was a huge debt involved...? sounds to me like maybe they were just all wearing black because they normally did, and the dad killed everyone then himself.. as is usually the case.