CA - Foster parents arrested in connection with murder of Hasanni Campbell - #1

[LadyBugSTL]

You know, when he "went missing," LR described the sweatsuit and the orthotics, but not what kind of shoes he was wearing. This may or not be an important detail, but for some reason I think they didn't mention it because he didn't "disappear" fully dressed. Sort of a slip up--and maybe LE found his orthotics somewhere in the house? Kinda doubt that. Anyway, just an idea. And wouldn't it be ironic for them to hang themselves by forgetting the shoes, since JC was employed at ...Shuz...

Just my idea and I could be totally wrong. Do people usually describe the shoes when a child goes missing?[/QUOTE]

Yes, normally they do - and if they are barefoot - that is mentioned as well.....and you know.......you may have something there......{{{good catch!}}}:clap:

 

[Angel Who Cares]

FYI: Looks like we'll find some info from LE out tomorrow!

Oakland police have not said what led to the arrest of the foster parents or why investigators believe the child is dead, though they have indicated they may reveal more information in this case on Sunday.

Volunteers say they will continue with plans for a vigil Monday evening for Hasanni at the Shuz of Rockridge shoe store in the 6000 block of College Avenue in Oakland where he was allegedly last seen.

VIDEO: Video: OAKLAND: Volunteers Continue Search After Foster Parents' Arrest
http://www.ktvu.com/video/20624387/index.html

Article:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/20606391/detail.html

:angel:

 

[LadyBugSTL]

OK... Holy moly... I got a lot of catching up to do. I've been reading fast, and not having a lot of time to do my usual "thank yous"... but know that I thank you all for your work.

On a side note - if these people are guilty (and it sure looks like it), I am hell-fire angry at them. Not only because of the obvious reason that they killed (and covered up the killing of) this sweet, innocent child, though that is more than enough reason to be angry. You all know me enough to know I feel that loss keenly.

Yet, there is also a more general crime committed here... Every time one of these monsters do this, it makes the lives of every subsequent guardian or parent who loses a child that much more hellish, even if they are not responsible. Every time someone kills their child or ward and blames an unknown and fictitious kidnapper, it causes us all to get a little harder on the parents or caregivers of every missing kid down the line. The long finger of hateful blame jabs at these people a little harder from now on, even in the worst moments of their lives.

That is unjust, and a crime committed against thousands of innocent people down the line. Sadly, there can be no justice for this crime. Society is just that much crappier because these people were in it... and that is one of the worst condemnations any human can be found guilty of, I believe.

{{{{{{{Amen, Duckie!!!}}}}}

You are absolutely, one zillion percent correct.........and in addition, it adds another crack in the already broken hearts of those of us who have lost a child....and would do anything to have them back......


.....after all this - I'm seriously considering placing a national ad that states something to the effect:

"Attention all parents and caregivers of children........

You have been entrusted with an invaluable miraculous gift.....

.........a precious little soul to whom you are the center of the world.

.......You have been granted a lifetime of unconditional love and miracles

......an honor above honors....

......If, for some reason you're not appreciative of this gift, if you feel it is intrusive, a bother, imperfect or a barrier to whatever superficial goals you may have...

.........{{{{{For God's Sake, *Please Do Not Harm Them!!!}}}

Instead.......take them to the nearest safe location, a place where they will be safe, secure and loved for their long long lifetime.......

.....or bring them to St Louis...........

{{{{I'll take them!!!!!!}}}}}}}}

I have enough love for all of them!!!!!!"


Guess I'd better buy a bigger house (3 bedrooms is *not going to cut it.....) (oh - *and tell tell my better half to expect company....for a looooong time!!!!)

 

[FifthEssence]

I don't understand the news article saying they can be released.

BOTH have ARRAIGNMENT dates noted on the record when they were formally arrested, .jpeg pics and details have been posted in the thread.
JC is 8/31/09 @2:30pm $15,000 BAIL
LR is 9/1/09 @2:000pm NO BOND

ARRAIGNMENT http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/criminal_stages/criminal_arraignment/

After the arrest, booking, and initial bail phases of the criminal process, the first stage of courtroom-based proceedings takes place -- arraignment. During a typical arraignment, a person charged with a crime is called before a criminal court judge, who:

Reads the criminal charge(s) against the person (now called the "defendant");
Asks the defendant if he or she has an attorney, or needs the assistance of a court-appointed attorney;
Asks the defendant how he or she answers, or "pleads to", the criminal charges -- "guilty," "not guilty," or "no contest";

Decides whether to alter the bail amount or to release the defendant on his or her own recognizance (Note: These matters are usually revisited even if addressed in prior proceedings); and
Announces dates of future proceedings in the case, such as the preliminary hearing, pre-trial motions, and trial.
Also at the preliminary hearing, the prosecutor will give the defendant and his or her attorney copies of police reports and any other documents relevant to the case

LINK here to a post which includes BOTH arrests and details. I see the word 'charge' and don't see anything that reads 'suspicion.' ....go have a look
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Hasanni Campbell


Hope someone with a Legal background chimes in.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Is the marina in the tix in Monterey? I want to make sure I'm not confusing it with Marina,CA. If it is Monterey, I'm assuming it means they were in the actual marina. What would a couple of non-boat owners have to do in the marina?

 

[merimer]

I don't understand the news article saying they can be released.

BOTH have ARRAIGNMENT dates noted on the record when they were formally arrested, .jpeg pics and details have been posted in the thread.
JC is 8/31/09 @2:30pm $15,000 BAIL
LR is 9/1/09 @2:000pm NO BOND

ARRAIGNMENT http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/criminal_stages/criminal_arraignment/

After the arrest, booking, and initial bail phases of the criminal process, the first stage of courtroom-based proceedings takes place -- arraignment. During a typical arraignment, a person charged with a crime is called before a criminal court judge, who:

Reads the criminal charge(s) against the person (now called the "defendant");
Asks the defendant if he or she has an attorney, or needs the assistance of a court-appointed attorney;
Asks the defendant how he or she answers, or "pleads to", the criminal charges -- "guilty," "not guilty," or "no contest";

Decides whether to alter the bail amount or to release the defendant on his or her own recognizance (Note: These matters are usually revisited even if addressed in prior proceedings); and
Announces dates of future proceedings in the case, such as the preliminary hearing, pre-trial motions, and trial.
Also at the preliminary hearing, the prosecutor will give the defendant and his or her attorney copies of police reports and any other documents relevant to the case

LINK here to a post which includes BOTH arrests and details. I see the word 'charge' and don't see anything that reads 'suspicion.' ....go have a look
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - Hasanni Campbell


Hope someone with a Legal background chimes in.

They can still be charged and released if the LE doesn't have enough to convict. Its all really up to the DA depending on what evidence they have. DA's want a slam dunk (or should I say minimal work). IF all they have at this point is no sign (trace)of Hasanni Near the shoe store more than likely they will be released. I still think someone said something

 

[merimer]

Is the marina in the tix in Monterey? I want to make sure I'm not confusing it with Marina,CA. If it is Monterey, I'm assuming it means they were in the actual marina. What would a couple of non-boat owners have to do in the marina?

This is just a wild guess... "SEX":waitasec: It was before Husanni and his sister came to live with them. 2-08 I beleive I read they got them around Christmas 12-08
SORRY YellowSubmarine (good name for what were talking about) Its the Marina in Monterey I'm sure although Marina the city is near. It said type of traffic? It is a BEAUTIFUL place..Probably after hours parking violations..

 

[YellowSubmarine]

This is just a wild guess... "SEX":waitasec: It was before Husanni and his sister came to live with them. 2-08 I beleive I read they got them around Christmas 12-08

Oh, goodness, I guess the :angel: in me . . .

Do we know for sure when the kids went to live with them? Even though there are pics from Christmas 08, I was under the impression it was 4-6 months ago. But, I could be confused since that's the time their so-called "routine" of dropping the kids off at the shoe store started.

 

[mischiefmanager]

https://www.justicepartners.monterey.courts.ca.gov/Public/JPPublicIndex.aspx

search louis ross...
Case Number TR08-029531
Case Caption People vs. Ross, Louis Welton III
Filing Date 5/29/2008
Case Type Traffic: Marina
Filing Type Citation Signed
Original Filing Date 5/29/2008
Agency CA Highway Patrol
Agency Number 73263CD

Jennifer Campbell
Case Number TR08-006418
Case Caption People vs. Campbell, Jennifer Marie
Filing Date 2/5/2008
Case Type Traffic: Marina
Filing Type Citation Signed
Original Filing Date 2/5/2008
Agency CA Highway Patrol
Agency Number 04071HK

***all it says is: case type traffic:Marina
If it was the city they would say the street and city wouldn't they(they do in TEXAS but not sure about CA)

 

[WhyaDuck?]

A point of order question here - if people want the other thread opened for discussion of topics other than the arrests, I can do that (though I'm not sure if this is needed, since the arrests might be all we have to talk about, but for the search, I guess)... but I am not sure how to organize things now that this thread is sort of thread #5, but not labelled as such...

Or should we see about getting this thread re-named or something?

The Rain Man in me is a little unsettled by having the threads out of sequence. And it's definitely time for Judge Wapner.

 

[merimer]

Oh, goodness, I guess the :angel: in me . . .

Do we know for sure when the kids went to live with them? Even though there are pics from Christmas 08, I was under the impression it was 4-6 months ago. But, I could be confused since that's the time their so-called "routine" of dropping the kids off at the shoe store started.

JC said somewhere (I will try to find it, I know it was an earlier article) that they got the kids around 8 months ago. Only a few months after they got that house. That routine started 8-7-09

 

[mischiefmanager]

JC said somewhere (I will try to find it, I know it was an earlier article) that they got the kids around 8 months ago. Only a few months after they got that house. That routine started 8-7-09

***The routine STARTED 8-07-09!?!?!?! WTF!?! The day AFTER He is LAST SEEN??? 8-06-09~family gathering 8-06-09 walmart sighting w/LR and JC

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Duck, Yes it would be easier to be able to have our discussions seperated out, but I don't know how that works

Merimer, I'm very sure I heard in a few of their interviews that this had been their routine for months. Of course, I could be wrong.

Last thought before I turn in . . . maybe the marina was "special" to them? Just sayin . . . .

 

[merimer]

***The routine STARTED 8-07-09!?!?!?! WTF!?! The day AFTER He is LAST SEEN??? 8-06-09~family gathering 8-06-09 walmart sighting w/LR and JC

SORRY
I was just Guessing..LOL no one said they really ever seen the kids. Even JC's boss had no idea they were there.

I also wanted to say if JC didn't say anything then she would have been charged with murder too ..Right? So she must have spilled some BEANS:boohoo:

 

[mischiefmanager]

QUOTE=merimer;4097846]I was just Guessing..LOL no onoe said they really ever seen the kids. Even JC's boss had no idea they were there.

I also wanted to say if JC didn't say anything then she would have been charged with murder too ..Right? So she must have spilled some BEANS:boohoo:[/QUOTE]

That's what struck me, tho...he HASN'T said WHEN the ROUTINE started...NO one remembers them being there, obviously not a 'routine' cuz he changes the 'routine'...different time...not calling on the cell phone to have her open back door...taking the kids seperately...not a routine in my book...but that makes sense if LITTLE MAN disappeared late nite the 6th or during the weekend...they would want it to look 'routine' to cover their sorry behinds:behind::behind:[

 

[Shutterfly]

I'd be really curious to know what prompted the volunteers to head for Monterey to search. Hmmmmmmm.

 

[FifthEssence]

They can still be charged and released if the LE doesn't have enough to convict. Its all really up to the DA depending on what evidence they have. DA's want a slam dunk (or should I say minimal work). IF all they have at this point is no sign (trace)of Hasanni Near the shoe store more than likely they will be released. I still think someone said something

I'm still not convinced the news article claiming they can be released within 48 hr is correct.

Both he & she have Arraignment dates beyond the 'within 48 hrs of being arrested' period.

My understandng from this Cornell link below is that the worthiness of going forward with the charges will be determined at the Preliminary Hearing which follows the Arraignment.

READ: http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/Criminal_procedure
After law enforcement arrests a suspect, a judge will set the suspect's initial bail, which is a specified amount of cash that allows the defendant to get out of jail after the initial arrest. If the defendant shows up for the proper court dates, the court refunds the bail, but if the defendant skips the date, then the court keeps the bail and issues a warrant for the individual's arrest.

The arraignment comes next. During an arraignment, a judge calls the person charged and takes the following actions: reading the criminal charges against the accused, asking the accused whether the accused has access to an attorney or needs the assistance of a court-appointed attorney, asking the accused to plead, deciding whether to amend the initial bail amount, and setting the dates of future proceedings.

The preliminary hearing follows the arraignment. At the preliminary hearing, the judge determines whether enough evidence exists for the prosecution to meet its burden of persuasion. The burden of persuasion refers to whether the prosecution even has enough evidence to make the defendant stand trial.

 

[merimer]

QUOTE=merimer;4097846]I was just Guessing..LOL no onoe said they really ever seen the kids. Even JC's boss had no idea they were there.

I also wanted to say if JC didn't say anything then she would have been charged with murder too ..Right? So she must have spilled some BEANS:boohoo:

That's what struck me, tho...he HASN'T said WHEN the ROUTINE started...NO one remembers them being there, obviously not a 'routine' cuz he changes the 'routine'...different time...not calling on the cell phone to have her open back door...taking the kids seperately...not a routine in my book...but that makes sense if LITTLE MAN disappeared late nite the 6th or during the weekend...they would want it to look 'routine' to cover their sorry behinds:behind::behind:[[/QUOTE]


I sure the LE already did this but is there a way to see we JC's days off were?Like maybe the 7th???:waitasec:
If she maybe called in or something that would have given them enough time to go to Monterey or elsewhere for that matter?

 

[eyes4crime]

http://www.monterey.org/harbor/

Historic Monterey Harbor is located in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary, the largest Marine Sanctuary in the world. Monterey Bay provides a natural setting for the Monterey Harbor and the Monterey Municipal Marina. Located in the City of Monterey along Del Monte Avenue, the Harbor and Marina provide access to a variety of recreational as well as commercial opportunities for residents and visitors alike in this scenic setting.

A part of the Harbor, the Marina has become a destination in and of itself as people travel from miles around to launch their boat for fishing or leisure purposes.
The Harbormaster, under policy direction from the City Council, continues to improve

Historic Monterey Harbor is located in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary, the largest Marine Sanctuary in the world. Monterey Bay provides a natural setting for the Monterey Harbor and the Monterey Municipal Marina. Located in the City of Monterey along Del Monte Avenue, the Harbor and Marina provide access to a variety of recreational as well as commercial opportunities for residents and visitors alike in this scenic setting.

A part of the Harbor, the Marina has become a destination in and of itself as people travel from miles around to launch their boat for fishing or leisure purposes.
The Harbormaster, under policy direction from the City Council, continues to improve...snipped...

http://www.monterey.org/harbor/

I have family living in that beautiful area...Montery has one of the best marine biology programs around. It's beautiful. They have an aquarium that is unbelievable. Both Jennifer and Ross were there at different times, a few months apart, as so many people are. Or they met there...don't know what the meaning is for the two of them but it really is gorgeous. mho

 

[merimer]

I'm still not convinced the news article claiming they can be released within 48 hr is correct.
Wouldn't that have to be determined after the Arraignment?
Both he & she have Arraignment dates beyond the 'within 48 hrs of being arrested' period.

READ: http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/Criminal_procedure
After law enforcement arrests a suspect, a judge will set the suspect's initial bail, which is a specified amount of cash that allows the defendant to get out of jail after the initial arrest. If the defendant shows up for the proper court dates, the court refunds the bail, but if the defendant skips the date, then the court keeps the bail and issues a warrant for the individual's arrest.

The arraignment comes next. During an arraignment, a judge calls the person charged and takes the following actions: reading the criminal charges against the accused, asking the accused whether the accused has access to an attorney or needs the assistance of a court-appointed attorney, asking the accused to plead, deciding whether to amend the initial bail amount, and setting the dates of future proceedings.

The preliminary hearing follows the arraignment. At the preliminary hearing, the judge determines whether enough evidence exists for the prosecution to meet its burden of persuasion. The burden of persuasion refers to whether the prosecution even has enough evidence to make the defendant stand trial.

YOur right thats why the LE waited until friday to get them. That way they have the whole weekend more time.. I do think they have WAY more than we think. I dont think LR will be out :behindbar anytime soon:clap:. As for JC depends they can even change the charge.