GUILTY CA - Gabriel Fernandez, 8, tortured to death, Palmdale, 22 May 2013

[Renee110]

I saw this report on the local news last night. I almost threw my dinner plate at the tv screen. They said that Gabe's teachers had filed SIXTY ABUSE REPORTS with CPS!!!!!!! :furious:

His teacher and principal filed over 60 reports of abuse, many which included pictures of bruises and burns---BUT HE WAS NEVER REMOVED FROM THAT HELL HOLE!

If anyone deserves the DP these two monsters that killed him do. But I wish some of those workers that ignored the 60 abus e reports would be charged with something too.

Thank You.

 

[Renee110]

I'm with you on this all the way. I grew up in an emotionally and physically abusive/alcoholic/dysfunctional home, and I actually did try to run away several times. Each time, the cops would bring me back and give me a lecture on how I needed to straighten up, respect my parents, and remind me that 'spanking' was a legal form of punishment.

Once, I called 911 from a locked bathroom because my father was going to beat me with a belt. They sent officers to our home, only to let me know my father was legally allowed to discipline me as he saw fit.

I was labeled as 'rebellious'.

I felt like there was nothing I could do to escape. It's such a helpless feeling as a child.

At 17, I finally had enough. I was in a serious physical altercation with my father, which led to me running out the front door and jumping into my car. He broke his hand trying to punch the glass out of the driver side door before I got away. I never returned. Our family dissolved after that, resulting in a divorce for my parents, loss of our home, etc. I carried the guilt of that for many years. I felt I had abandoned my younger brother as well.

I recently learned that my mother never knew what had transpired that day. She thought I was just being rebellious and left without incident. Of course my father never told her what he'd done.

My mother, brother and I are close as can be, but we are estranged from my father. He's a narcissist and alcoholic and still thinks we are ungrateful children who can't see all he did for us.

When abuse and dysfunction is all you know, it's not abnormal. It's just the way it is. When you are repeatedly reaching out to outsiders and they dismiss your cries for help, you start to accept and believe that this is all there is. It's nothing short or nightmarish.



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I went through this times 100. My dad was on the cover of US News Report on his yacht. Everyone believed him. Not Me. You would not believe what he say's about me....

 

[LaborDayRN]

:bump: up this thread for

JUSTICE for GABRIEL :rose:

hearing today....

Ug! I'm not sure if I got the date wrong or if the hearing was pushed back. I'm now reading July 20th for the pretrial hearing.
So..........
July 20th: Pearl and Isuaro - Pre-trial hearing
Aug 15th: Social Workers Court date
Sept 26th: Jury Trial (Pearl & Isauro)

I pray the trial doesn't get pushed back. It's been far to long (over 4 years!!!) already. #JusticeforGabriel :candle:

 

[Niner]

Ug! I'm not sure if I got the date wrong or if the hearing was pushed back. I'm now reading July 20th for the pretrial hearing.
So..........
July 20th: Pearl and Isuaro - Pre-trial hearing
Aug 15th: Social Workers Court date
Sept 26th: Jury Trial (Pearl & Isauro)

I pray the trial doesn't get pushed back. It's been far to long (over 4 years!!!) already. #JusticeforGabriel :candle:

:tyou: for the update LaborDayRN!!

 

[Renee110]

I'm with you on this all the way. I grew up in an emotionally and physically abusive/alcoholic/dysfunctional home, and I actually did try to run away several times. Each time, the cops would bring me back and give me a lecture on how I needed to straighten up, respect my parents, and remind me that 'spanking' was a legal form of punishment.

Once, I called 911 from a locked bathroom because my father was going to beat me with a belt. They sent officers to our home, only to let me know my father was legally allowed to discipline me as he saw fit.

I was labeled as 'rebellious'.

I felt like there was nothing I could do to escape. It's such a helpless feeling as a child.

At 17, I finally had enough. I was in a serious physical altercation with my father, which led to me running out the front door and jumping into my car. He broke his hand trying to punch the glass out of the driver side door before I got away. I never returned. Our family dissolved after that, resulting in a divorce for my parents, loss of our home, etc. I carried the guilt of that for many years. I felt I had abandoned my younger brother as well.

I recently learned that my mother never knew what had transpired that day. She thought I was just being rebellious and left without incident. Of course my father never told her what he'd done.

My mother, brother and I are close as can be, but we are estranged from my father. He's a narcissist and alcoholic and still thinks we are ungrateful children who can't see all he did for us.

When abuse and dysfunction is all you know, it's not abnormal. It's just the way it is. When you are repeatedly reaching out to outsiders and they dismiss your cries for help, you start to accept and believe that this is all there is. It's nothing short or nightmarish.



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We are twins....

 

[Niner]

:bump: ing up for the hearing tomorrow - whatever it's for?

JUSTICE for GABRIEL! :rose:

 

[LaborDayRN]

From Gabriel's Justice Facebook Page:

Note date change to July 21. Court asked for an extra day to address the new motions.
▪Intellectual disability
▪Motion to Continue
▪Motion to suppress Gabriel's Justice

Gabriel's Justice is the facebook group that was formed after he was murdered. Members have been at every hearing. The defense has filed a motion to keep members out of the courtroom. And I see there is a motion to continue. I just don't understand how this can go on? Delay after delay! It's been 4 years! Grrrrrrrr!!!!

 

[Niner]

:tyou: for the update LaborDayRN! Very much appreciated....

so tomorrow.... :waiting:

 

[LaborDayRN]

:tyou: for the update LaborDayRN! Very much appreciated....

so tomorrow.... :waiting:

Yes, tomorrow should be the day! I'll let you know when I hear an update. Hopefully there will be some MSM coverage.

 

[Niner]

Anyone know "what time" this might be starting?

TIA! :wave:

 

[LaborDayRN]

Anyone know "what time" this might be starting?

TIA! :wave:

Update. All motions were denied including the continuance. Judge was firm on no more continuances. :clap: Next pretrial hearing Aug 18th. will be to discuss Pearl's claims of intellectual disability. Trial is still scheduled to start Sept 25th! This is from the Gabriel's Justice Facebook Page. There's a very informative video that was posted on July 21st. I'm not sure if I can post a link, but you can just google Gabriel's Justice Facebook.

 

[LaborDayRN]

I forgot to add.......the next court date for the social workers accused in this case is Aug 15th. I'll try to find out what will be addressed on this date and share it.

 

[Niner]

Thanks for the updated dates LaborDayRN! I had the trial starting on Sept. 25th. Guess they moved it one day, eh?

Thanks again!

:wave:

So these social workers are accused of "negligents" or ?? TIA!

 

[LaborDayRN]

Thanks for the updated dates LaborDayRN! I had the trial starting on Sept. 25th. Guess they moved it one day, eh?

Thanks again!

:wave:

So these social workers are accused of "negligents" or ?? TIA!

:wave: Lot's of info in this article.

On March 20, all four were ordered to stand trial on one felony count each of child abuse and falsifying records. Each defendant faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted. A pretrial hearing has been set for April 27.
http://www.dailynews.com/general-ne...ilty-in-death-of-8-year-old-gabriel-fernandez

 

[cvaldez1975]

so that was something I questioned. why this child? why not the others? did she not always have this child/not bonded w him? this article states her parents had him from age 1 month until within a year of his death. just like aaliyah Lunsford, just like jhessye Shockley. this poor kid. had a mostly normal life then goes to live in a snake pit where he was treated horribly.

I wasn't sure if that was info that was out there, I had missed it if so. I knew something about him living w his grandparents but not for how long.

 

[borndem]

From Gabriel's Justice Facebook Page:


Gabriel's Justice is the facebook group that was formed after he was murdered. Members have been at every hearing. The defense has filed a motion to keep members out of the courtroom. And I see there is a motion to continue. I just don't understand how this can go on? Delay after delay! It's been 4 years! Grrrrrrrr!!!!

Barring citizens from a public courtroom?? Dunno anything about them, but if they had been rowdy or disrespectful, they would have been thrown out, so I'm guessing they have been okay while there. I guess the DT may think they might unfairly influence a jury, but there are often emotional family members & friends in nearly every courtroom gallery. This is interesting. Or maybe it's just a play for more time.
And yes, four years is a heckuva long time for justice to be denied. Grrrrr.

 

[LaborDayRN]

so that was something I questioned. why this child? why not the others? did she not always have this child/not bonded w him? this article states her parents had him from age 1 month until within a year of his death. just like aaliyah Lunsford, just like jhessye Shockley. this poor kid. had a mostly normal life then goes to live in a snake pit where he was treated horribly.

I wasn't sure if that was info that was out there, I had missed it if so. I knew something about him living w his grandparents but not for how long.

From what I understand, the grandparents fought hard to get Gabriel back.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Barring citizens from a public courtroom?? Dunno anything about them, but if they had been rowdy or disrespectful, they would have been thrown out, so I'm guessing they have been okay while there. I guess the DT may think they might unfairly influence a jury, but there are often emotional family members & friends in nearly every courtroom gallery. This is interesting. Or maybe it's just a play for more time.
And yes, four years is a heckuva long time for justice to be denied. Grrrrr.

From what I understand, everyone who's attended from the Gabriel's Justice Facebook group has been respectful in court. At least it didn't make news to the contrary. It doesn't make sense to me. I mean, how will jurors know if observers are there for the prosecution or the defense? It may be a request from one of the accused. Some of the member of the group may be friend or family members of the accused.

 

[Niner]

So according to my calendar - the 4 social workers have a prelim hearing today. Since it's California - I'll start looking about 7pm my time (9am-CA).

If anyone knows "what time" this might start - it would be appreciated!

TIA!

JUSTICE for GABRIEL! :rose:

 

[Niner]

okay - I'm one day ahead of myself.... :facepalm:

Hearing today.... for the 4 child services personnel

:judge: