CA CA - Hugues de la Plaza, 36, San Francisco, 2 June 2007

[Steely Dan]

They are unwilling to say. No one will come forward with the name. No one. They have a duty to do so. They repeatedly ask for the help of the public. One poster said Hugues didn't use discretion when he placed and answered ads on San Fran's underground. Hugues' friends responded immediately, asking the poster for more information. None has responded to requests for this person's name.
Guess what? It may be that this is where the mystery ends. There was no caller.

There may not be anybody. :waitasec:

 

[Kenon]

There may not be anybody. :waitasec:

What do you mean there might not be anybody? Somebody told her. For someone who got so into her ex boyfriends death 4 years later, you would think we would get the answer of who called her. Another thing if she is so into finding out about her lover and knowing every little detail that happened I think you would know about all the websites on the computer and answer some questions. After all she is a reporter right? Why is that question so illusive? M seems to tell what she wants to make herself look good, but no answers to the real questions.

 

[Kenon]

By the way I love those little guys. They are so precious!

 

[WHITEFANG]

that is a possibility. no one called her. how is that conceivable? if she already knew. how could she know, already? if she killed him

 

[WHITEFANG]

unfortunately, even though this case is on the verge of exploding, only a few are left following it. for a petition to pressure the coalition for justice to cooperate with another grassroots effort, many will have to sign a petition. odd, isn't it? they want answers from anyone who has them. same here, but we are ignored by them.

 

[WHITEFANG]

and what, pray tell, does it say?

"Was there some other motive, such as a need for cash? (Police reports show that some valuable silverware was missing from de la Plaza's apartment when his body was found.)"

how do the police decide some valuable silverware was missing when his body was found?

let's play imagination-go-nuts for a second. police break down a door to discover a bloody corpse. in their report, they cite valuable fishing gear was missing when they found it.

remember the riddle posed earlier about the man convicted of treason during the second french revolutionary war. the man who died the moment his wife swatted away a fly that landed on his neck, after he fell asleep on her lap. he was dreaming at that precise moment that the guillotine dropped and decapitated him, and he died, remember? how could that story be absolutely impossible, based on the way it is told?

since he died, no one could ever know what he was dreaming about at that moment.

how could the cops know what was missing at the time his body was found? unless he left an up-to-the-minute inventory.

How did m learn of this tragedy while on the east coast? let's just say, for the sake of argument, she wasn't on the east coast, as she claims.
WE KNOW SHE HAS MADE FALSE STATEMENTS.
let's say, in reality, she was in the area where he was murdered without an alibi to account for several hours of her time when he was stabbed to death. what then? how do the police, the detectives, her friends, his friends, the reporters, view her? as a suspect? damn right.

what is she now? The Crusader. Above reproach. Above suspicion.

 

[Steely Dan]

What do you mean there might not be anybody? Somebody told her. For someone who got so into her ex boyfriends death 4 years later, you would think we would get the answer of who called her. Another thing if she is so into finding out about her lover and knowing every little detail that happened I think you would know about all the websites on the computer and answer some questions. After all she is a reporter right? Why is that question so illusive? M seems to tell what she wants to make herself look good, but no answers to the real questions.

I'm thinking that if she says she was called on her cell phone, I don't know for sure, she could have already been in SF committing the murder and nobody actually called her. She already knew and had to find a reason to tell people how she found out..It would be interesting to check her phone records. JMO

 

[WHITEFANG]

excellent insight!
maybe she was called on her cell phone.
she just happened to be in s.f.
when she received the call.

 

[Steely Dan]

excellent insight!
maybe she was called on her cell phone.
she just happened to be in s.f.
when she received the call.

She could have told the police she was called on her cell when there wasn't any actual call.

I still think she'd have to come up with a name though. :waitasec:

 

[WHITEFANG]

the informer could always speak up, but that hasn't happened either.

 

[SnowAngels]

excellent insight!
maybe she was called on her cell phone.
she just happened to be in s.f.
when she received the call.

But then why lie and say she was on the east coast???

 

[WHITEFANG]

to remove herself from suspicion.

 

[SnowAngels]

to remove herself from suspicion.

Sorry, I'm not following?

Are you implying someone STILL called her about the death, and she just happened to be in S.F. at the time?

If she was called about the death, then it wouldn't matter where she was - SF or East Coast...

So why lie if indeed she was called?

 

[Steely Dan]

But then why lie and say she was on the east coast???

Sorry, I'm not following?

Are you implying someone STILL called her about the death, and she just happened to be in S.F. at the time?

If she was called about the death, then it wouldn't matter where she was - SF or East Coast...

So why lie if indeed she was called?

One possible theory of mine is that she was in SF and killed him. She then made up the east coast and phone call BS to throw off investigators. It's even possible, IMO, that she killed him and hopped a plane back to the east coast and then came back in case the PD asked for proof of her flying in.

It's a little out there but certainly possible.

 

[SnowAngels]

You'd think if this was the case, and airline/travel was involved, there would be some sort of record or paper trail....

...also cell phone pinging to describe the location she was in and when...

 

[SnowAngels]

In cases like these, usually someone in the know will usually come on here and defend the person/topic being discussed...

...curious no one who has known Melissa or Hugues has come on here yet and provided us with input, insight, or defense of the situation.

 

[Steely Dan]

You'd think if this was the case, and airline/travel was involved, there would be some sort of record or paper trail....

...also cell phone pinging to describe the location she was in and when...

I don't know if they checked those things or not. They may not have enough to get warrants for the info. I'm just throwing stuff at the wall to see if anything sticks. :waitasec:

 

[WHITEFANG]

she claims she was out-of-town, somewhere on the east coast, when this tragedy took place, yet, someone went out of his way to make sure she was notified, within hours after it happened. this is what she says occurred. if true, why won't she identify the person who called? since she hasn't and no one else has, is it true? it provides her with ample cover. it removes her as a suspect.
if someone did inform her, there still remains the questions 1.) where was she when she received the call? 2.) could she have been on the east coast, flown to s.f., committed the crime and flown back, and then received a call?
The main consideration, though, is just who would go to the trouble of finding an obscure, former girlfriend-four years removed, out of the picture of his life and the lives of his friends, her words-immediately after he was killed? Who? Why call her? why did she hop a plane, immediately? she wasn't his girlfriend. why did she take it upon herself to notify his folks? she says informing them was the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life. she says she believed they had already been informed, too. the inconsistencies flow like a river. she says detective Casillas wouldn't talk to her. he spent at least an hour talking to her. he had no questions for her, she says. but, he asked her very leading questions, she says, too. she had nothing to do with hugues anymore, but insists that he was her one true love, her baby-boy, the love of her life, her best friend. doesn't make sense. a number of the pictures she posted show her engulfing him, hanging all over him. a friend on her website remembers the fear she felt for m when she first introduced hugues to her, because she had been hurt many times before. m seems unable to constrain herself around him, falling head over heels. the first thing she did when she saw him was to ask him out. it is counter-intuitive to believe she ended it with him, causing her endless regret. for what conceivable reason would she end it, and still remain completely engrossed with him?
by placing herself on the east coast, she cannot be a suspect. by saying she learned of his death while there, when there had not been any media coverage, forces a conclusion that she was informed, personally. but, who was the informer? since no one identifies him, we are left wondering how true her account really is.

 

[Steely Dan]

she claims she was out-of-town, somewhere on the east coast, when this tragedy took place, yet, someone went out of his way to make sure she was notified, within hours after it happened. this is what she says occurred. if true, why won't she identify the person who called? since she hasn't and no one else has, is it true? it provides her with ample cover. it removes her as a suspect.
if someone did inform her, there still remains the questions 1.) where was she when she received the call? 2.) could she have been on the east coast, flown to s.f., committed the crime and flown back, and then received a call?
The main consideration, though, is just who would go to the trouble of finding an obscure, former girlfriend-four years removed, out of the picture of his life and the lives of his friends, her words-immediately after he was killed? Who? Why call her? why did she hop a plane, immediately? she wasn't his girlfriend. why did she take it upon herself to notify his folks? she says informing them was the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life. she says she believed they had already been informed, too. the inconsistencies flow like a river. she says detective Casillas wouldn't talk to her. he spent at least an hour talking to her. he had no questions for her, she says. but, he asked her very leading questions, she says, too. she had nothing to do with hugues anymore, but insists that he was her one true love, her baby-boy, the love of her life, her best friend. doesn't make sense. a number of the pictures she posted show her engulfing him, hanging all over him. a friend on her website remembers the fear she felt for m when she first introduced hugues to her, because she had been hurt many times before. m seems unable to constrain herself around him, falling head over heels. the first thing she did when she saw him was to ask him out. it is counter-intuitive to believe she ended it with him, causing her endless regret. for what conceivable reason would she end it, and still remain completely engrossed with him?
by placing herself on the east coast, she cannot be a suspect. by saying she learned of his death while there, when there had not been any media coverage, forces a conclusion that she was informed, personally. but, who was the informer? since no one identifies him, we are left wondering how true her account really is.

I think his plans for moving to Argentina says a lot, and it has a lot more to do with this case than people think. JMO

 

[Kenon]

I think his plans for moving to Argentina says a lot, and it has a lot more to do with this case than people think. JMO

Steely, me too. Somebody didn't want him to go to Argentina, then they would never see him again. Also the silverware is a major player here. Of course she used the "I was on the east coast" alibi and then acts like she is doing everything to find the killer and throw everybody off. She's good really. I wonder if she knew the police wouldn't be thorough somehow. After all she is a reporter.