CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #18

[missy1974]

Sounds like McGee "might" be back on Tuesday... Maline wondering if a continuance isn't the right thing to do if it is going to be "seen" as him causing the delay. These witnesses were not his, he wasn't prepared to question them.

 

[citygirl]

Sounds like McGee "might" be back on Tuesday... Maline wondering if a continuance isn't the right thing to do if it is going to be "seen" as him causing the delay. These witnesses were not his, he wasn't prepared to question them.

What does a continuance mean?

 

[Tortoise]

What does a continuance mean?

adjourning until McGee gets back

 

[Texas Red]

Sounds like McGee "might" be back on Tuesday... Maline wondering if a continuance isn't the right thing to do if it is going to be "seen" as him causing the delay. These witnesses were not his, he wasn't prepared to question them.

If there was ever a trial that was a poster child for an appeal this is the one.

 

[missy1974]

What does a continuance mean?

Basically a break. Adjourning to a specific day to continue. That is what maybe should have happened here, rather than a bit of testimony here and there. But it does sound like the judge is willing to address the issue with the jury, so we will see.

 

[missy1974]

If there was ever a trial that was a poster child for an appeal this is the one.

I think that Maline brought up a continuance today just to have it on the record for this reason IMO

 

[asyousay]

Am I missing the logic here?

So Maline says “please don’t take it out on us for the delays” then wants to delay it even more?

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[la2cabo]

I have no idea. DK would be the person to answer your question, it goes to his state of mind, whatever he believes will be the motivating factors in his decision to take the 5th. I would imagine he's on this thread, try asking him.

In your original comment you didn't specify DK's agenda which is why I asked who's agenda. At this point I don't think DK will be called as a witness and if he his I don't think he'll plead the 5th so there's really no need for me to ask him. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[missy1974]

Am I missing the logic here?

So the defense say “ don’t take it out on us for the delays” then wants to delay it even more?

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Maline was saying it shouldn't reflect on him (or the defense) because of the delays. McGee is the lead counsel, McGee is sick. He is not faking. The judge seems to accept this as fact, as does the State since they have said nothing to dispute it. So Maline now has to go through everything that McGee has already done in preparation to question the witnesses, that were not his. He is doing what he can but at the same time is concerned about the perception that it is "him" that is delaying. This is why he mentioned a continuance today. I do not believe he thinks he will be prepared to question Dr. Rudin, and that is one witness I wouldn't want to be ill prepared for. I don't think he will have a problem questioning LE officers once he knows what he is questioning them about lol, it's the technical stuff that I am sure he is more worried about.

 

[missy1974]

In response to Cathy's question below...

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson
#McStay - My lawyer friends, @KenneyBaden @RBianchiEsq @AKellerLawCrime anyone else that wants to weigh in, problem that the jurors are openly laughing/exasperated at the delays in this trial and some seem to smile at pros. as they walk out? Defense worries blame is on them


Bob Bianchi TV Host; Head NJ Co. Prosecutor/DA frm‏ @RBianchiEsq 4m4 minutes ago
Replying to @cathyrusson @KenneyBaden @AKellerLawCrime
Wow, great question, hard to say not being there. It would concern me their attention is off the case and they are not taking it seriously. Laughing too?? My guess it’s not something jurors would do if they are thinking of imposing a death sentence.

 

[Texas Red]

Am I missing the logic here?

So Maline says “please don’t take it out on us for the delays” then wants to delay it even more?

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He's creating a record for appeal. Making the court aware that McGee's absence may cause a backlash from the jury that's directed towards the defense and their client.

 

[Meemaw12]

A

Yesterday's part 5 is now up on youtube

Oh gosh I think I hit the report button by mistake. Uggg

 

[la2cabo]

He's creating a record for appeal. Making the court aware that McGee's absence may cause a backlash from the jury that's directed towards the defense and their client.

If they're thinking along the lines of an appeal that tells me they're also thinking along the lines of a guilty verdict. Hmmm

 

[la2cabo]

A



Oh gosh I think I hit the report button by mistake. Uggg

I'm sure you're fine Meemaw.

 

[Texas Red]

In your original comment you didn't specify DK's agenda which is why I asked who's agenda. At this point I don't think DK will be called as a witness and if he his I don't think he'll plead the 5th so there's really no need for me to ask him. Thanks for the suggestion though.

The original comment asked was in the form of a compound question.

Who's overall agenda? Do you really think anyone is going to take the time, money and effort to sue DK when they know the well is empty and probably always will be?

I only answered the second questions asked. As far as the first question "Who's overall agenda?" that's up to you to figure out.

 

[asyousay]

Maline was saying it shouldn't reflect on him (or the defense) because of the delays. McGee is the lead counsel, McGee is sick. He is not faking. The judge seems to accept this as fact, as does the State since they have said nothing to dispute it. So Maline now has to go through everything that McGee has already done in preparation to question the witnesses, that were not his. He is doing what he can but at the same time is concerned about the perception that it is "him" that is delaying. This is why he mentioned a continuance today. I do not believe he thinks he will be prepared to question Dr. Rudin, and that is one witness I wouldn't want to be ill prepared for. I don't think he will have a problem questioning LE officers once he knows what he is questioning them about lol, it's the technical stuff that I am sure he is more worried about.

Well I will have to see the sick note I am afraid as people on here don’t believe Dan was in Hawaii so I can choose to believe this is a delaying tactic


All kidding aside I hope he is back on Tuesday as this trial was a complete farce a month ago. Now I have no words for how bad it is. Thank God the UK system is a millions time better than this and it will certainly stop me moaning about my country for awhile as California should be ashamed at how unprofessional trials are.

At the end of day it’s Patrick I feel for as this is NOT justice for his family. This is a complete mockery for a family that lost their life’s in the most barbaric way imaginable.

 

[missy1974]

If they're thinking along the lines of an appeal that tells me they're also thinking along the lines of a guilty verdict. Hmmm

Nothing is guaranteed. I would never ever bet on this case to go one way or the other LOL

 

[travelbug]

I think we need a multiple choice poll.
Q. If CM is acquitted should the investigation continue?
A. No, it's over, the real killer has escaped justice.
A. Yes, focusing upon DK.
A. Yes, focusing upon _____________.

Yes, focusing upon the new evidence presented during this trial, the truthfulness of witnesses during this trial, the new DNA and each person and/or company that substantially stood to benefit from the death of JM and/or SM.

 

[travelbug]

If they're thinking along the lines of an appeal that tells me they're also thinking along the lines of a guilty verdict. Hmmm

I disagree, Maline is covering all bases and utilizing due diligence. imo

 

[citygirl]

In response to Cathy's question below...

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson
#McStay - My lawyer friends, @KenneyBaden @RBianchiEsq @AKellerLawCrime anyone else that wants to weigh in, problem that the jurors are openly laughing/exasperated at the delays in this trial and some seem to smile at pros. as they walk out? Defense worries blame is on them


Bob Bianchi TV Host; Head NJ Co. Prosecutor/DA frm‏ @RBianchiEsq 4m4 minutes ago
Replying to @cathyrusson @KenneyBaden @AKellerLawCrime
Wow, great question, hard to say not being there. It would concern me their attention is off the case and they are not taking it seriously. Laughing too?? My guess it’s not something jurors would do if they are thinking of imposing a death sentence.

Interesting. My take is just the opposite. They have been in this for four months? IMO, they have become hardened to the gruesome details. They have observed the defendant every day as they have listened to testimony much that has addressed anything but the injuries. Cell phones, pings, quick books etc. Far afield of the fact that this young family was brutally murdered. It's all about the defendant. And the mysterious DK. Are they anxiously waiting to see him on the stand? I would be.