CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

[Mony Mony]

What's with the black light. They keep circling back to it.

 

[asyousay]

Right! Receipts... pictures.. something. Not saying they don't have it, but then show it (which the pro's didn't, even on redirect)

Looking at old posts, timelines, etc. in the last week, I recall seeing transfers from Joey to Dan for very small amounts, like $25 or $30 in the week or so before the 4th. He can afford to go to Hawaii but has to ask for those small amounts of money to live?

Cathy Russon, who is tweeting for L&C and is in the courtroom... said in chat about 10 minutes ago that the defense will be calling Dan as a witness. Meaning... the pro's won't be. This tells me the pro's know there are issues when it comes to Dan. I really want to hear his testimony.

ETA: even cell phone records would show where he was, wouldn't they?

Yes mobile phone records would of pinged in Hawaii.

 

[Reachingfornettles]

Dk is a computer programmer also he could have posted pics of a previous trip or any pic on social media for that matter. Merritt called from his own phone and acted like he was JM and wanted to buy another Quikbook acct. The black light was in the kitchen at the time of the search. I do believe.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 5m5 minutes ago
#McStay - Under recross examination defense attorney Maline asked why not be overly cautious and take 3 days worth of security cam footage from the mall? DuGal - Because of the man hours and it would incorporate something that was really out of the scope of what I was told

 

[Plumeria5]

Anyone know where DK supposedly stayed on Oahu? I could check it out.

 

[missy1974]

Anyone know where DK supposedly stayed on Oahu? I could check it out.

In opening statements, the defense said at his landlords... but they also said the landlord said it didn't happen... I expect they will call the landlord to testify if this is the case.

Again, OS's are not evidence, but it gives us an idea of what they *think* they can prove.

 

[missy1974]

DuGal is done... I didn't hear who they called to the witness stand.. but they are at sidebar right now

 

[missy1974]

the witness they called will be coming back, they need to go over documents before she can testify. They are going to call another witness instead. (she will be coming back on the 29th)

Geesh, you would think they would have all this worked out already.

 

[missy1974]

State calling Denys Williams to the stand. She is a woman... name is pronounced Denis... I was expecing a man lol

ETA: she is a forensic evidence technician. Now retired, since 2014.

 

[asyousay]

DuGal is done... I didn't hear who they called to the witness stand.. but they are at sidebar right now

I bet he is glad to be done as he was definitely incompetent and made a ton of errors. Flight reservations was his way of saying Dan was in Hawaii is laughable. Definitely a million better ways to confirm his alibi than that.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 20m20 minutes ago
#McStay - The judge is now asking some clarification questions of DuGal. Prosecutor Sean Daugherty objected to the judge's question, judge overruled, laughter in the courtroom.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1m1 minute ago
#McStay - State calls Denys Williams - Ret. Forensic Evidence Technician. She took photos the of the McStay house the day San Diego County authorities entered with a search warrant on Feb 19, 2010

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[cobalt sky]

I have considered Joey being 'tied' up to get the password as well. My only issue with that is that we have no indication that Joey actually changed the pswd, and because we know that CM already had the password, he would have no need to 'get' it. I believe that Quickbooks would have had a log of the password change considering they kept logs of when it was accessed, what was done, etc.

If CM was able to access the account on the 2nd, Joey became aware of it the morning of or before the meeting with Chase on the 4th... why wouldn't Joey change his password immediately? That is just not logical to me at all. We know he had access to it on his phone, he had access to it at home... change the password before it happens again! JMO

I have never used Quickbooks so I'm not familiar with the program. I'm wondering if an email would have been generated and sent to Admin notifying them of any password changes, as is the normal policy for many companies? Not sure if Quickbooks did this or not back then.

I agree that it would seem logical that if Joseph had any suspicions that he would have immediately changed the Quickbooks password. In addition, I have always wondered why, after realizing that funds were missing from his bank account, why did he not immediately put a hold on his bank account until he got it sorted out? We know he talked to his bank and had the time and opportunity to do so. We know he did not do this because Chase was able to cash those additional checks in the days after his disappearance.

So, were the financials really as important to Joseph and the catalyst for what happened? Or did something else go down that day?

 

[Funky funky]

I have never used Quickbooks so I'm not familiar with the program. I'm wondering if an email would have been generated and sent to Admin notifying them of any password changes, as is the normal policy for many companies? Not sure if Quickbooks did this or not back then.

I agree that it would seem logical that if Joseph had any suspicions that he would have immediately changed the Quickbooks password. In addition, I have always wondered why, after realizing that funds were missing from his bank account, why did he not immediately put a hold on his bank account until he got it sorted out? We know he talked to his bank and had the time and opportunity to do so. We know he did not do this because Chase was able to cash those additional checks in the days after his disappearance.

So, were the financials really as important to Joseph and the catalyst for what happened? Or did something else go down that day?

Good question. I think something big must’ve went down for him to murder the whole family, I just can’t get my head around why they all had to die. If he had killed Joey in a rage it would have been easier to take but to murder innocent babies is pure evil and shows premeditation.

 

[MrsPC]

DuGal is done... I didn't hear who they called to the witness stand.. but they are at sidebar right now

that's bugging me - I didn't clearly hear her name but for some reason the defense wasn't ready for the state to call this witness. and she cannot return to testify until January 29th so she must be from out of state or something.

 

[Plumeria5]

A forensic photographer's nightmare. Clothes, etc strewn everywhere!

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 2m2 minutes ago
#McStay - Williams walked through many of the photos she took on the 19th at the McStay residence. She will continue on direct examination tomorrow morning

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[missy1974]

that's bugging me - I didn't clearly hear her name but for some reason the defense wasn't ready for the state to call this witness. and she cannot return to testify until January 29th so she must be from out of state or something.

I don't know if the defense wasn't ready, I thought it had to do with documents that hadn't been "dealt with yet", whether they were admissible or not in the trial. I could be wrong and I am hoping to be able to listen to some of this testimony again later, I missed a bit today.

 

[missy1974]

From today:

 

[mom2chloe]

Surely airlines keep records longer than 4 years? We're talking electronic bookings in 2010, not just paper records.

There is without a doubt a valid record of it somewhere if true. TSA has it!