CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #4

[mrjitty]

The breaking point came, though, when Joey realized Chase was actually forging checks, and the "ripping off" became outright theft, to the tune of thousands of dollars.

Agreed.

There is a big difference between a useless business partner who doesn't deliver on projects and misallocates fund to suit himself and borrows lots of money vs a guy who directly steals 1000s from your bank account by hanging a bogus cheque

 

[mrjitty]

I wanted to go back and listen to the prosecution asking about the area code... this is what I got...

That phone number is an 858 phone number? Yes, I believe so 858-717-6508

Do you know where that area code is? no sir

Do you know the area code for Hawaii? no sir

a gap (can see that the video is edited)

so you don't know what the 858 area code number is? no

How bout 808, do you know what area code that's at? No sir

page 583... a short pause... I have no further questions.


I was checking area code 858 right away LOL I thought for sure it was going to be Hawaii!!!!

Del Mar, La Jolla, Poway, (part of) San Diego, Rancho Santa Fe, Solana Beach
858 Area Code: location, cities, map and time zone


808 is Hawaii
808 Area Code: location, cities, map and time zone

I guess it doesn't matter if he knows.

The area codes are a matter of public record and thus admissible. In any event - the relevance will be when detectives examined the lists

 

[mrjitty]

So San Bernardino County did get a search warrant for Kavanaugh's phone records back in December 2013. So much for the defense claim that he wasn't investigated.

I am shocked i tell you!

 

[mrjitty]

So Carmen said that MSM was supposed to be getting a percentage of the fountains, and that Joseph wasn't being forthcoming about the selling price of the fountains. I guess this would make it a bit different. From what Sequieda testifed about, I couldn't help but think it was none of his business what Joey sold the fountains for. She doesn't say what the percentage was supposed to be though. I am not sure why Dave Sequieda Sr. isn't testifying, seems like he should know all of this.

Now I have to wait for more video's to get uploaded

ETA: I'm not sure how them getting a percentage makes sense in this case... Them being paid for the work that they do and product makes sense to me. JMO

Remember that they were also providing the facility for CM to work in - that is not a straight vendor relationship.

 

[mrjitty]

He is a sly OLD, really OLD, according to him, lol! dog ya know, but not nearly as sly as he thought or needed to be in the end. LOL

He was so sure he had pulled off the perfect murders.

Can you imagine what he thought when he learned the biker had found the skull?

I would be very interested in knowing who all he was with that day, and what he said to them when he knew the gravesites were no longer his own dark secret?

Btw. I've missed you today. I have become so accustomed to reading your posts every day that I've become quite spoiled. LOL!.

I find them so logical,
compelling, and well said. You bring up great points I hadn't even considered before you wrote them.

Imo

Thanks Ocean!

Mad busy at the moment. Just caught up on all the great posts. Hope to watch some testimony in the w/e!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

To me this trial has spiraled down into a three ring circus.

It's now become much more about the antics displayed in the courtroom by the lawyers than ever about the four family members who's lives have been destroyed in the most vicious way imaginable.

Joey, Summer, and their two precious little boys, and what happened to them all are getting lost in all of it.

Imo, it's now become all about choosing sides, and which lawyer can one up the other one the best.

Also which one can cause the most drama as if this is some kind of fictional CSI show unfolding as if real lives of the four who were cruelly murdered are only an insignificant small part of the fictional show.

Before this trial even started I worried how it would be carried out, and now its come true.

What I don't understand is why some seem to want DK to be the one, even willing to believe and take the defense OS at face value that his alibi had never been verified.

I could understand somewhat if someone believed that if they had never followed other murder cases, but for those who have... know all too well an alibi of anyone during any investigation is verified, and not merely accepted at face value. That is investigation 101 for every homicide investigating team whether in this case or in all others just like it.

All of it is so heartbreaking to me when others seem to make sure they stress the subject about Joey's character than stressing the immoral bad character and consistent criminal history and bad reputation of CM which is far far worse, and has been for most all of CMs life.

I have to admit I was appalled feeling gut punched when someone posted if Joey was alive the prosecutor would convict Joey.

Joey had no legal responsibility to tell anyone at MSM what he sold the fountains for since he paid them what they billed him, yet that makes him a crook? Of course not, but it seems Joey can be judged without anyway to defend himselt. That's supposed to be relevant somehow yet what is of most importance in this case is for the jury to know the history, and bad character of the one on trial and Joey isn't the one. He is one of CMs 4 victims.

I can't even beginning to imagine how this three ring circus, disguised as a serious murder trial.. is profoundly affecting all of the family members who seek justice for the four precious lives that were cruelly murdered and taken away from them.

It's one of the strangest trials I've tried to follow. And because I haven't been able to watch the entire testimony on a daily basis, I truly have no clue what was really said in its entirety, word for word, without any editing.

Hours of testimony are whittled down to summaries in short summations, Over the years I have seen some who tweeted from the courtroom put their own spin on what was said. They decide what they think is important when in truth, everything testified to has equal importance.

I said at the beginning, I may not be able to follow this trial to completion due to its unnecessary long time. But now that its become much more about the grandstanding attorneys, I feel I will not be able to endure it to the end with no end in sight. The way it's going now it may be at the end of the year.

Jmoo and nothing more.

 

[Tortoise]

I've transcribed a portion of Carmen Garcia's testimony after lunch, to clear up whether she had said she phoned Merritt on Monday or saw him. It's clear now she recalled she saw him and I think that must be correct because she didn't see him on Friday 5th, the day after the murders, and at some point he must have given her the two cheques he printed on the 5th (backdated to the 4th). I haven't listened to that part yet where he gave her the cheques.

1.54 to 13.15 Day 14 Part 3

P: Now you indicated that sometimes the defendant would bring in the cheques is that right?

CG: That’s what I recall yes.

P: Ok and then sometimes you would also receive cheques that were in the mail?

CG: I believe so yes.

P: When a cheque came in whose responsibility was it to record it to a specific job that it was for?

CG: Mine.

P: Now at some point while you were working at Metro Sheet Metal did you become aware of the fact that Joseph McStay and his family were missing?

CG: Yes.

P: Do you recall when that was that you became aware of that?

CG: Um I recall that we tried contacting him on a Friday and couldn’t get in touch. I know Dave had some questions about a project I don’t know if it was money related or design related I don’t remember that and I couldn’t, couldn’t get in touch with him by phone and he didn’t respond by email.

P: Let me actually put a calendar up for you that may help refresh your recollection of when that specific date was. So this would be on the bottom here would be the first week in February with 31st of January into that first week, do you recall which date in looking at this calendar that was?

CG: I remember it was a Friday. So probably February 5.

P: February 5th you believe?

CG: Mhm.

Def: What exhibit’s that?

P: I will check in just one second. So you believe you tried to contact him on the 5th?

CG: Correct.

P: Ok and so this would be People’s exhibit 567.

P: And so was that you that specifically tried to contact Jo?

CG: Yes. By phone and email.

P: Ok. Does that look accurate? “Carmen Garcia attempted to contact Jo” on the 5th?

CG: Jo being Joseph?

P: Yes. I’ll put Jo McStay.

CG: Cos there was also Joe..

P: Yes I forgot. Yes, ok does that look accurate to you?

CG: Yes.

P: Ok. Now you indicated that you had tried to reach him both via telephone and email is that right?

CG: Yes.

P: Did you um you indicated your first phone call that you tried to reach him on was the 5th. Do you recall approximately what time of day it was that you tried to reach him?

CG: I would guess the morning and by afternoon I was sending him an email so maybe couple of times in the morning and that didn’t work and…because he was usually pretty responsive.

P: Ok so typically in the past if you contacted Jo via telephone he would respond to you pretty quickly?

CG: Yeah, more or less.

P: Ok so you reached out to him, when you called him do you recall if you were able to leave a message for him?

CG: I believe I, hmm, I can’t say. I can’t recall I should say. I believe I would have because we had all expectation that he would get back to us.

P: Would it refresh your recollection to look at a portion of the report that you gave to the detective with respect to whether or not you left messages for him on that date?

CG: Phone messages you mean?

P: Yeah, because you indicated that you believe you did but would it refresh your memory to look at the report?

CG: Yes.

P: Showing her the transcript of her interview, page 17.

Def: Which page number?

P: 17.

Def: What page number?

P: (louder) 17.

Def: Page 17?

P: Yes.

CG: Yes, ok.

P: Did that refresh your recollection of your conversation with the detective?

CG: Yes.

P: And do you recall now after reviewing that if you were able to leave messages for Joseph when you first tried calling him?

CG: Yes.

Def: […]

P: It’s the bottom of page 17 the last two lines, and the top of page 18.

P: You also indicated that you had sent an email to him, is that right?

CG: Yes.

P: Did you receive any response from Mr McStay at all?

CG: No.

P: Now given that that message was on Friday do you recall if you saw the defendant that day?

CG: I didn’t. I don’t recall that I don’t believe so because...I don’t believe so.

P: Why do you not believe so?

CG: Because when he came in on Monday I asked him or I told him that we’d been trying to contact Joseph and we have been unable to, and what was going on.

P: Ok so Monday and looking at the next calendar which would be exhibit 568, Monday being the 8th, you indicated, is that correct?

CG: Mhm.

P: So Monday February 8th you saw the defendant and can you tell us about that conversation with him?

CG: I just asked him you know or just told him that we were trying to contact Joseph and that he hadn’t gotten back to us and what was going on and he asked me well why do you need to get in touch with him and I said Dave has questions about the unit that we’re working on.

P: Ok. Let me go ahead and mark that down on the calendar that you spoke with

CG: Chase

P: Chase on the 8th. So does that appear to be correct to you that on the 8th Carmen Garcia spoke with Chase regarding Joseph McStay?

CG: Mhm.

D: Your honor that’s actually mistaken; testimony is she saw Mr Merritt on that date.

J: Overruled.

P: So you indicated that you talked to him about that and you told him that you were trying to get a hold of him, did he appear concerned at that time?

CG: No. He said he’d been trying to get in touch with him as well at the weekend.

P: Ok. Did it seem to you that he was more worried about something else?

Def: Objection leading.

J: Objection sustained. Calls for speculation and […]

P: Did he ever express concern during that interview, or that time that you spoke with him?

CG: About him being available? (overspeaking) P: About Joseph

P: Yes.

CG: Um no not really.

P: When you told him that you’d been trying to get in touch with him regarding some issues that Dave had what was his response?

CG: I don’t recall.

P: Did you ask him or talk to him about whether or not he had called law enforcement about them missing?

CG: No he said he hadn’t. I think he said he was going to wait a few days.

P: You indicated that you don’t recall exactly what the gist of the conversation with the defendant when you had talked to him what his response was about why you wanted to get hold of Joseph, do you recall that?

CG: Right, he just reacted like ‘why do you need to get in touch with him, why do you need to speak to him?’

P: Did he tell you what further actions he was going to take regarding that if any?

CG: Regarding me trying to contact Joseph?

P: Regarding Joseph being gone.

CG: Well he said he was just going to wait a few days and then he was what’s the word going to contact the family and I think he said he was going to hold off on that and he was going to go to the house and check it out himself.

P: Did he tell you when he was going to go to the house?

CG: No, I think, no I can’t remember specifically.

P: Would it refresh your recollection to look at a transcript of the interview that you gave with the detective?

CG: Please.

P: Page 17. Line 639. So if you can review line 639 (or 6 thru 9) to yourself.

CG: Mhm, later in the week.

P: Ok so he indicated to you he was going to go by the house later in the week?

CG: Right.

P: At that point you had tried calling Jo on that Friday and then you had emailed him. Did you continue trying to get a hold of Joseph after that?

CG: I think we kind of left it up to Chase to try and follow up on that.

Def: Objection speculation.

J: Overruled.

P: You testified that you had asked him about getting a hold of his family do you remember that?

CG: Yes.

P: Now did you have any contact information for Joseph McStay’s family?

CG: No. Later I did but not at that time.

P: In fact at the time that Jo McStay went missing had Metro Sheet Metal been working on any projects for EIP?

CG: We had 2 projects still outstanding I recall.
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My comment on BBM "P: Ok so he indicated to you he was going to go by the house later in the week?" . To me this seems very predictive rather than expectant that Joey will show up.

 

[missy1974]

When did Merritt go to Susan's? It was the 9th, wasn't it? And he went and drove by the house that day too?

If he went into MSM on Monday morning, when did he leave the Trooper at the border then? We know from the security guards testimony that it had to be Monday the 8th, right? I wonder if there was any other gaps that day in his cell activity?

 

[geevee]

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My comment on BBM "P: Ok so he indicated to you he was going to go by the house later in the week?" . To me this seems very predictive rather than expectant that Joey will show up.

Yes, and quite the nonchalant attitude for a best friend whom he speaks with several times a day to be suddenly out of touch for 4 days and yet he'll go by the house 'later in the week'.

 

[geevee]

When did Merritt go to Susan's? It was the 9th, wasn't it? And he went and drove by the house that day too?

If he went into MSM on Monday morning, when did he leave the Trooper at the border then? We know from the security guards testimony that it had to be Monday the 8th, right? I wonder if there was any other gaps that day in his cell activity?

Yes, the Trooper was towed the night of Feb. 8th, I think one of the security said it had been noticed late afternoon - 5:30ish?

 

[Tortoise]

When did Merritt go to Susan's? It was the 9th, wasn't it? And he went and drove by the house that day too?

If he went into MSM on Monday morning, when did he leave the Trooper at the border then? We know from the security guards testimony that it had to be Monday the 8th, right? I wonder if there was any other gaps that day in his cell activity?

If I was a juror I would not be relying on Carmen's memory to say he went into MSM during the morning - she was unsure and had no reference point to make it a stand out memory, like it happened before such and such happened. She had to have her memory refreshed several times.

It's most likely he was south of Azusa (MSM) on Monday morning given that he was over 30 miles away at Corona and heading north at around 1.30 pm. That suggests he was south of Corona before his phone came back on.

The clearest evidence of when he went to the border is when his phone wasn't connected to any towers - from 7.26 am. Unless he went to MSM before setting off on his journey south.

MOO

 

[missy1974]

If I was a juror I would not be relying on Carmen's memory to say he went into MSM during the morning - she was unsure and had no reference point to make it a stand out memory, like it happened before such and such happened. She had to have her memory refreshed several times.

It's most likely he was south of Azusa (MSM) on Monday morning given that he was over 30 miles away at Corona and heading north at around 1.30 pm. That suggests he was south of Corona before his phone came back on.

The clearest evidence of when he went to the border is when his phone wasn't connected to any towers - from 7.26 am. Unless he went to MSM before setting off on his journey south.

MOO

It's possible that phone records might be able to help. The issue with some of the phone records that I can foresee is some of the inactivity is just that, inactivity. Unless he got a call and was required to connect to a tower, like on the 4th when his phone was clearly off/in airplane mode/out of range when CJ was calling him, the phone didn't have to connect to a tower. During some of the phone testimony yesterday (it may have been the night of the 4th), the prosecutor pointed out that from 9:30ish until the next morning around 7:30 there was no activity on his phone. Well... if you look at my phone records from last night, there was no activity from around 8:30 until this morning at 8 ... it doesn't mean I had my phone off.

At least on the 4th we can see that his phone was clearly off, thanks to Jarvis calling him 4 times

 

[Tortoise]

To me this trial has spiraled down into a three ring circus.

It's now become much more about the antics displayed in the courtroom by the lawyers than ever about the four family members who's lives have been destroyed in the most vicious way imaginable.

Joey, Summer, and their two precious little boys, and what happened to them all are getting lost in all of it.

Imo, it's now become all about choosing sides, and which lawyer can one up the other one the best.

Also which one can cause the most drama as if this is some kind of fictional CSI show unfolding as if real lives of the four who were cruelly murdered are only an insignificant small part of the fictional show.

Before this trial even started I worried how it would be carried out, and now its come true.

What I don't understand is why some seem to want DK to be the one, even willing to believe and take the defense OS at face value that his alibi had never been verified.

I could understand somewhat if someone believed that if they had never followed other murder cases, but for those who have... know all too well an alibi of anyone during any investigation is verified, and not merely accepted at face value. That is investigation 101 for every homicide investigating team whether in this case or in all others just like it.

All of it is so heartbreaking to me when others seem to make sure they stress the subject about Joey's character than stressing the immoral bad character and consistent criminal history and bad reputation of CM which is far far worse, and has been for most all of CMs life.

I have to admit I was appalled feeling gut punched when someone posted if Joey was alive the prosecutor would convict Joey.

Joey had no legal responsibility to tell anyone at MSM what he sold the fountains for since he paid them what they billed him, yet that makes him a crook? Of course not, but it seems Joey can be judged without anyway to defend himselt. That's supposed to be relevant somehow yet what is of most importance in this case is for the jury to know the history, and bad character of the one on trial and Joey isn't the one. He is one of CMs 4 victims.

I can't even beginning to imagine how this three ring circus, disguised as a serious murder trial.. is profoundly affecting all of the family members who seek justice for the four precious lives that were cruelly murdered and taken away from them.

It's one of the strangest trials I've tried to follow. And because I haven't been able to watch the entire testimony on a daily basis, I truly have no clue what was really said in its entirety, word for word, without any editing.

Hours of testimony are whittled down to summaries in short summations, Over the years I have seen some who tweeted from the courtroom put their own spin on what was said. They decide what they think is important when in truth, everything testified to has equal importance.

I said at the beginning, I may not be able to follow this trial to completion due to its unnecessary long time. But now that its become much more about the grandstanding attorneys, I feel I will not be able to endure it to the end with no end in sight. The way it's going now it may be at the end of the year.

Jmoo and nothing more.

I'm keeping the faith! This one is a real test of the evidence - not the lawyers. If this jury comes back with a guilty verdict it won't be because it hasn't been challenged at every turn.

I believe common sense will prevail - he would be the unluckiest guy in the world to have all this evidence stacked against him just at the time Joey and his family is murdered. Proof he lied he was at home and his phone didn't even register the call from Joey he said he ignored - he has no alibi. He was at the gravesites. He was at the house.

The detectives ruled out Kavanaugh because the evidence led them to Merritt the snake. A handshake to explain his DNA on the steering wheel. - if that was the case his DNA would be on the car key and the inside and outside door handles too because Joey must have touched those first. So Joey must have wiped down the door handles! The case Kavanaugh did it is what I call the Desperate Dan defense. Smoke and mirrors. That is why they invented a knife - to fit with their witness to his confession. That is laughable IMO. So the murderer buried the hammer and everything else but he loved his knife so much he couldn't bring himself to leave it in the grave.

They still haven't got down into the best of the evidence yet ocean, they're laying the scenery and saving the best to last, to be freshest in the jury's minds after months of sitting in the courtroom listening to these oafs.



MOO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

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Yes, and quite the nonchalant attitude for a best friend whom he speaks with several times a day to be suddenly out of touch for 4 days and yet he'll go by the house 'later in the week'.

It's very telling testimony to me pointing to his guilt.

He knew he could take his time because he knew they would still be missing no matter when he got around to it.

He knew there wasn't any reason to rush. imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I cant thank you enough, Tortoise for transcribing what was actually said.

Now that I have read it I get a much better view of the testimony, and now I actually think the state is doing very well. They are asking very good direct questions.

I wouldn't have come to that conclusion if I hadn't read your transcript though.

It makes me realize I was not getting the full scope of what is really being said by just getting quick summaries.

I was very confused as to what she really testified to but it does make me also realize there are many witnesses who have also testified where I don't nearly know the entire scope of what was actually said, word for word, which can make all the difference in the world.

It's like taking something out of context and having to guess what it all means. Lol

Now I'm much more relieved the jury is hearing compelling evidence.

So I have much more hope now that justice will be served.

Thank you again for your hardwork. It has made such a big difference since nothing is better than knowing what was really asked and answered.

Ocean

 

[asyousay]

I have been super busy this week so I have missed loads so why is Joey’s character suddenly being called in to question? I’m confused

 

[fridaybaker]

To me this trial has spiraled down into a three ring circus.

It's now become much more about the antics displayed in the courtroom by the lawyers than ever about the four family members who's lives have been destroyed in the most vicious way imaginable.

Joey, Summer, and their two precious little boys, and what happened to them all are getting lost in all of it.

Imo, it's now become all about choosing sides, and which lawyer can one up the other one the best.

Also which one can cause the most drama as if this is some kind of fictional CSI show unfolding as if real lives of the four who were cruelly murdered are only an insignificant small part of the fictional show.

Before this trial even started I worried how it would be carried out, and now its come true.

What I don't understand is why some seem to want DK to be the one, even willing to believe and take the defense OS at face value that his alibi had never been verified.

I could understand somewhat if someone believed that if they had never followed other murder cases, but for those who have... know all too well an alibi of anyone during any investigation is verified, and not merely accepted at face value. That is investigation 101 for every homicide investigating team whether in this case or in all others just like it.

All of it is so heartbreaking to me when others seem to make sure they stress the subject about Joey's character than stressing the immoral bad character and consistent criminal history and bad reputation of CM which is far far worse, and has been for most all of CMs life.

I have to admit I was appalled feeling gut punched when someone posted if Joey was alive the prosecutor would convict Joey.

Joey had no legal responsibility to tell anyone at MSM what he sold the fountains for since he paid them what they billed him, yet that makes him a crook? Of course not, but it seems Joey can be judged without anyway to defend himselt. That's supposed to be relevant somehow yet what is of most importance in this case is for the jury to know the history, and bad character of the one on trial and Joey isn't the one. He is one of CMs 4 victims.

I can't even beginning to imagine how this three ring circus, disguised as a serious murder trial.. is profoundly affecting all of the family members who seek justice for the four precious lives that were cruelly murdered and taken away from them.

It's one of the strangest trials I've tried to follow. And because I haven't been able to watch the entire testimony on a daily basis, I truly have no clue what was really said in its entirety, word for word, without any editing.

Hours of testimony are whittled down to summaries in short summations, Over the years I have seen some who tweeted from the courtroom put their own spin on what was said. They decide what they think is important when in truth, everything testified to has equal importance.

I said at the beginning, I may not be able to follow this trial to completion due to its unnecessary long time. But now that its become much more about the grandstanding attorneys, I feel I will not be able to endure it to the end with no end in sight. The way it's going now it may be at the end of the year.

Jmoo and nothing more.

Ocean: Welcome to my world! We are are on the same page here, as you kindly pointed out regarding my little outburst about the injustice of it all. All that's left of this family is a pile of bones. I think people these days are somewhat inured to the horror of such things for many reasons, but it's beyond frustrating to me to see those bones versus Chase Merritt, who has all the opportunity in the world to postpone, postpone, postpone; then show up in court and play on the jurors' emotions; have his attorney object to anything and everything, which certainly disrupts the process, sows "unreasonable doubt" in the minds of the jurors, etc. Such a game.

A trial spanning months and months, complete with three-day weekends, holidays, various and sundry other days off, can only make all the minutiae even more muddled for the jury. Congratulations, Chase Merritt! If you are convicted of making faces at the McStays, it will be a miracle!

 

[fridaybaker]

He is a sly OLD, really OLD, according to him, lol! dog ya know, but not nearly as sly as he thought or needed to be in the end. LOL

He was so sure he had pulled off the perfect murders.

Can you imagine what he thought when he learned the biker had found the skull?

I would be very interested in knowing who all he was with that day, and what he said to them when he knew the gravesites were no longer his own dark secret?

Btw. I've missed you today. I have become so accustomed to reading your posts every day that I've become quite spoiled. LOL!.

I find them so logical,
compelling, and well said. You bring up great points I hadn't even considered before you wrote them.

Imo

Speaking of "when he learned the biker had found the skull": This reminds of something from years ago. Does anyone remember the Craiglist ad asking about anyone who had seen a 4-wheel drive vehicle in the desert? I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed here. I just can't keep up!

If I recall, it was a year or so after they went missing, and it was a really odd post. I think it described the Trooper. I've always wondered what came of that, and if LE ever tried to track down the poster. For some reason I think they did and couldn't find him/her? However, I'm wondering if any theories ever came from it by LE over the years. Just thinking here about everything, and little items from the far corners of my mind, like that strange Craiglist post, keep creeping to the fore.

 

[asyousay]

Speaking of "when he learned the biker had found the skull": This reminds of something from years ago. Does anyone remember the Craiglist ad asking about anyone who had seen a 4-wheel drive vehicle in the desert? I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed here. I just can't keep up!

If I recall, it was a year or so after they went missing, and it was a really odd post. I think it described the Trooper. I've always wondered what came of that, and if LE ever tried to track down the poster. For some reason I think they did and couldn't find him/her? However, I'm wondering if any theories ever came from it by LE over the years. Just thinking here about everything, and little items from the far corners of my mind, like that strange Craiglist post, keep creeping to the fore.

The person was found and it was debunked. It had nothing to do with the case.

Somebody posted about this last week and mentioned there was nothing in it. Just a coincidence.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I hope in the state's closing they bring forth CMs many statements that points to CoG.

Just wait until the jury sees and hears him on his other interviews.

Now that the jury knows he is the one accused of murdering all 4 every word he said will be dissected line by line.

It was in one of those interviews way before his arrest that convinced me then he would be the one arrested one day if the bodies were ever discovered.

I think I may have been one of the very few that wasn't shocked in the least when he was arrested.

I thought...' Yes.it's about dam* time!!!'