CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #5

[A lucas]

No the OS didn't mention the 4.18 call - (unless you mean the defense OS which I haven't got) - this is the pros OS:


Between 3.03 pm and 3.07 pm, if there was a meeting it would be after the meeting, Joseph calls the defendant seven times during that time period. The longest call – lasting two minutes and 37 seconds – was at 5.48 pm that night. Joseph’s phone is again travelling southbound back home, that 5.48 phone call he’s in the Fallbrook area when he makes that phone call – 5.48 pm. After that 5.48 pm contact with the defendant the defendant’s cell phone goes off the grid. And that is to say it’s either turned off, it’s in airplane mode or it’s somewhere where it’s not connecting with any towers.

From 5.48 pm on February 4th to 9.32 pm his cell phone is not connecting any towers. And there are during that time period 1-2-3-4-5 calls between 6.09 and 9.04 from Catherine Jarvis, his wife at the time, to the defendant and Voicemail messages are left. Now the way we know that just looking at the records you’ll also know a lot about cell phones at the end of this trial, is, this gives the geographic location as well as other information for the cell towers that his phone was connecting with. During that time period, during those calls that he was getting from his wife, Catherine Jarvis, he’s not connecting with any tower. It’s actually more than three and a half hour period, all incoming calls appear to be forwarded to Voicemail.

At 8.28 pm Joseph’s cell phone record shows a call to the defendant, again during that time period when the defendant’s cell phone is off. The defendant’s cell phone does not register a call during that time period. Could be explained by quickly trying to call someone and hanging up before the connection is made from the closest tower to you to the closest tower to them, before that connection is made you’re calling then hanging up.

At 9.32 pm he calls Catherine Jarvis and his cell phone connects with a cell tower in Mira Loma which is south of Rancho Cucamonga north of Corona. After that 9.32 pm contact his phone is off the grid until 7.30 the next morning, February 5th.

Those 7 calls from joey to CM just after the lunch meeting sound very much like an argument to me. You know the type where you row and then keep hanging up on each other?

 

[Tortoise]

I know why you like your theory - as it solves a lot of the actual mechanical murder issues

But isn't it just a far less tense interpretation of the phone evidence that each man had his own phone and Joey simply drove home?

otherwise you need such elaborate staging and 2 people right from the get go....

just my highly overvalued opinion

Then there is the issue of it not being the Trooper in the driveway at the time of Mitchley video. So if Joey was out how did he get murdered and why was there no activity on Joey's phone between 5.47 pm and 8.28 pm and both calls are to Chase?

 

[katydid23]

As confusing as all of this phone info is for me who has been following for awhile, I am trying to imagine how hard it is for the jury deciphering it all.

YES, I agree. The same problem, perhaps, with the truck video and the QuickBooks info. It is very hard to keep straight. And few of the witnesses have been that clear and direct, then the flood of objections from both sides, and the cross examinations muddying up the waters----I wonder if the jury has been able to follow it all so far.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 4m4 minutes ago
#McStay - UPDATE: The juror is fine and court will be starting soon.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

Those 7 calls from joey to CM just after the lunch meeting sound very much like an argument to me. You know the type where you row and then keep hanging up on each other?

That's a very strange assumption. Arguments usually last a long call, and if one party is angry enough to hang up, the other party may call back but unlikely to persist 6 times, let alone the other party would answer it 6 times. Possible 7 calls: forgetting some point and calling back to add, to ask for clarification of something about the business, to get back with an answer after checking some information, and so on.

 

[MrsPC]

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[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 4m4 minutes ago
LIVE NOW: Sgt. Ryan Smith is recalled to the stand by the state. He conducted a search of Charles Merritt's home on 10/22/2014 where Merritt lived with his girlfriend Mechele Muir. He collected an iPhone and laptop.

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[A lucas]

That's a very strange assumption. Arguments usually last a long call, and if one party is angry enough to hang up, the other party may call back but unlikely to persist 6 times, let alone the other party would answer it 6 times. Possible 7 calls: forgetting some point and calling back to add, to ask for clarification of something about the business, to get back with an answer after checking some information, and so on.

Erm, I’ve persisted more times than that when someone hasn’t wanted to listen to a point I’m making on the other end of the phone! And I think I’m pretty normal .

JM had just confronted him after he stole money from him. Somehow I can’t envisage an amicable ‘business convo’ ensued after that?

Chase tried to ring his girlfriend six times when he realised he had been rumbled earlier that day. Six times in close succession stinks of panic and frenetic activity in my view.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 8m8 minutes ago
That was all Smith was recalled for. Now on the stand is Det. Jason Schroeder - Hi-tech Crime Division, Hisperia PD.

 

[Edmo]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 8m8 minutes ago
That was all Smith was recalled for. Now on the stand is Det. Jason Schroeder - Hi-tech Crime Division, Hisperia PD.

Who's computer is testifying about? Just got here, thanks.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

JM had just confronted him after he stole money from him.

I must have missed that, could you point/link to the evidence of that? Thanks in advance.

 

[MrsPC]

Who's computer is testifying about? Just got here, thanks.

The McStay office computer, or at least I think that's correct.

 

[Edmo]

The McStay office computer

Thanks. Is he insinuating CM was the person using it?

I guess the $4,000 check to cm is kinda proof , lol. The check was made close to 8pm on the 4th.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

So Mechele Muir was CM's girlfriend in 2014? When was Jarvice his girlfriend?

 

[Force Ten]

Those 7 calls from joey to CM just after the lunch meeting sound very much like an argument to me. You know the type where you row and then keep hanging up on each other?

Well it could go two ways, one, your scenario, two, Joseph trying to get something from Chase. The reason what the latter may be is unclear but in all the calls after the meeting it is Joseph calling Chase. So if Joseph was done with Chase, why is he continuing to call him if he is headed or already home? And is the last conversation (1 minute long) the final straw for Chase? Did it send him over the edge?

 

[MrsPC]

Thanks. Is he insinuating CM was the person using it?

I guess the $4,000 check to cm is kinda proof , lol. The check was made close to 8pm on the 4th.

I think so as it was being accessed at approx 2am on the 8th of Feb 2010

 

[Edmo]

So, if CM was accessing their computer at around 2am on the 8th, how does his cell phone records "match" this timeline? We know his phone was off for 20 hours, but I forget the dates?

 

[Force Ten]

So Mechele Muir was CM's girlfriend in 2014? When was Jarvice his girlfriend?

Jarvis and Chase separated not many months after the disappearance.

 

[Force Ten]

So, if CM was accessing their computer at around 2am on the 8th, how does his cell phone records "match" this timeline? We know his phone was off for 20 hours, but I forget the dates?

20 hours on the 5th into the 6th.

 

[Force Ten]

I think so as it was being accessed at approx 2am on the 8th of Feb 2010

2 AM?? Are you sure about that? Is this in the current testimony? I'm not watching. TIA