CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #5

[Force Ten]

If possible, would like to know where you read or heard this. Will be appreciated. I seem to remember at the testimony the defense asked the neighbor whether she reported to the camera manufacturer about the problem and the answer was negative.

I don't really recall. I could be mistaken. I'm not sure it really matters if it was having issues, it recorded what it recorded.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

Once again, smr, one two three - aside from playing nonsensical semantic ping pong, and because you obviously dispute anything that connects Merritt to this crime, do you have a theory, of any kind, as to what happened to the McStay family? And, if so, do you have anything substantive to prop up your theory? I do recall, a while ago, you referred to a gang hit of some kind. What with the back and forth that has transpired since then, could you refresh our beleaguered memories? Our minds are in traction, smr. We need a jolt ........

Have you ruled out a hitman possibility yet? I fail to see so.

<modsnip bickering>

 

[Deleted member 192280]

We are only a fraction into the trial, hopefully you will find the evidence more compelling by the end of it.

None of us know what new evidence will be be, whether it will be more compelling in favor or against the defendant.

 

[Bernina]

Have you ruled out a hitman possibility yet? I fail to see so.

I don't tell you what to say, I hope you also don't feel entitled to tell me what to say.

I, probably like a few others on this thread, would REALLY like to see what evidence you have that may support a "hitman" possibility. Connect the dots for us, circumstantial or otherwise. Feel free to link MSM or court transcripts. Your posts and responses compel me to believe that you know something we don't know.
Please share, you could break this case wide open. None of us we want to see an innocent man wrongfully convicted and you appear to know something no one has been able to un-earth in this 9 year old case.
I would REALLY like to see what you have as far as a hitman, or any other viable suspect. Break it down for us.

 

[Longtimenoc]

Of course there are going to be people who are sure that DK is involved. The defense keeps throwing it out there, an old blog hyped him as being some devious money grabbing psycho while defending Merritt.

The timeline works in DKs favor. Unlike Merritt, he tried to get in touch with Joe and then Summer. You can be sure his phone records were analyzed and he has been ruled out as the killer or accessory.

His history of violence pales in comparison to Merritts. I feel he has been crucified and wronged. Hope that justice will be served but some are so convinced of his guilt no amount of evidence to the contrary will convince them.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

I, probably like a few others on this thread, would REALLY like to see what evidence you have that may support a "hitman" possibility. Connect the dots for us, circumstantial or otherwise. Feel free to link MSM or court transcripts. Your posts and responses compel me to believe that you know something we don't know.
Please share, you could break this case wide open. None of us we want to see an innocent man wrongfully convicted and you appear to know something no one has been able to un-earth in this 9 year old case.
I would REALLY like to see what you have as far as a hitman, or any other viable suspect. Break it down for us.

I have no evidence either way, therefore I don't rule it out, esp. given the complication of what transpired. Did I claim it was definitely a hit job? But you seem to rule it out without due evidence.

 

[Force Ten]

Have you ruled out a hitman possibility yet? I fail to see so.

I don't tell you what to say, I hope you also don't feel entitled to tell me what to say.

Maybe we shouldn't rule out Kevin Spacey, El Chapo, Krusty the Clown. They're all bad guys. So many possibilities.

The evidence brought Chase Merritt to court and the judge found it sufficient enough for Merritt to go to trial. And here we are.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

Maybe we shouldn't rule out Kevin Spacey, El Chapo, Krusty the Clown. They're all bad guys. So many possibilities..

Or that CM was a cannibal. Oops I used past tense.

 

[Plumeria5]

I suppose it could be a hitman and he or she made out a few checks to CM while they were at it.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

I suppose it could be a hitman and he or she made out a few checks to CM while they were at it.

Hitmen could have helped in a variety of ways from luring, abduction, transporting, murder, burial to driving back, where one person may not be enough.

 

[Bernina]

Pray tell which post of mine was uncivil, where did I treat everyone as enemy. Sounds like you are trying to get rid of a poster for holding an unpopular view in this thread and pointing out fallacies in reasoning, perceiving the latter as being hostile and personal attack.

What exactly is "your view" on this trial?
And no poster has the power to "get rid" of anyone who has an "unpopular view". That is left to the moderators and only when a poster violates the TOS.

 

[citygirl]

Hitmen could have helped in a variety of ways from luring, abduction, transporting, murder, burial to driving back, where one person may not be enough.

I have wondered how he could accomplish burying the family on his own. I'm pretty sure it's stated that there was DNA in one of the graves that didn't match the family or the defendant. I'm anxious to hear more about that even though they need not prove he had help.

 

[Bernina]

None of your business how long I've been here and what I know, and btw I decide what to say or not to say. I don't tell you what to say or not to say. I don't care how long you've been here.

Your length of your membership is clearly shown on your profile as is everyone else. It is PUBLIC. I don't see why that would be an issue.
I am just asking you to explain your theory or back up your responses with legitimate sources. That is what we do on this forum.
No one can tell you what to say, but clarifications of your statements would be polite.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

What exactly is "your view" on this trial?
And no poster has the power to "get rid" of anyone who has an "unpopular view". That is left to the moderators and only when a poster violates the TOS.

My view is the murderer(s) should pay for what they did and innocent people should not be wrongly convicted. Convicting an innocent person entails letting the real murders free. My view is as of now, Day 17, there has been no solid evidence to link CM to the murder, there is plenty of reasonable doubt. My view is basic logic is necessary for attempting to solve a complicated case.

Some asked for my theory. I can't have a theory without enough information. Not having a theory is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm here not to provide theories. Who said each member must provide a theory? Casting doubt on the theory of another doesn't imply having a theory of one's own. Some people here are knowledgeable about various law-related issues and other stuffs that I'm not knowledgeable of, some know more details about the case, so there are stuffs I'm interested to learn here. If you investigated my posting history, you'd see that my first post here was to ask a question, about the significance about the testimony about the paint tray in the house.

 

[QueenBofOB]

I looked at the actual list of qualifying charges. SOME burglary charges apply and some do not. Chase's specific charges were not on the list of qualifying charges. I totally agree it doesn't have to be violent charges to qualify.

Would HE know that, though?

 

[Bernina]

My view is the murderer(s) should pay for what they did and innocent people should not be wrongly convicted. Convicting an innocent person entails letting the real murders free. My view is as of now, Day 17, there has been no solid evidence to link CM to the murder, there is plenty of reasonable doubt. My view is basic logic is necessary for attempting to solve a complicated case.

Some asked for my theory. I can't have a theory without enough information. Not having a theory is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm here not to provide theories. Who said each member must provide a theory? Casting doubt on the theory of another doesn't imply having a theory of one's own. Some people here are knowledgeable about various law-related issues and other stuffs that I'm not knowledgeable of, some know more details about the case, so there are stuffs I'm interested to learn here. If you investigated my posting history, you'd see that my first post here was to ask a question, about the significance about the testimony about the paint tray in the house.

BBM, no, but quantifying that doubt with a reasonable explanation helps others understand why you doubt the poster.

 

[QueenBofOB]

Have you ruled out a hitman possibility yet? I fail to see so.

I don't tell you what to say, I hope you also don't feel entitled to tell me what to say.

Well, *I* highly doubt that a "hit man," is responsible. For one, they wouldn't go thru all the trouble of burying the bodies or killing the babies, as the kids wouldn't be able to identify him/her. And I personally think, that a hit man wouldn't use a sledge hammer. More than likely a gun with a silencer.

 

[Bernina]

Would HE know that, though?

Probably NOT. When the 3 strikes law came about, there was a bit of confusion. From my experience, most criminals didn't know the in's or out's of it, just as many don't know if "spousal privilege" is a National law vs, State by State.

 

[Deleted member 192280]

What does BBM stand for? I've seen it more than once.

 

[Bernina]

What does BBM stand for? I've seen it more than once.

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