CA CA - John Beck, 73, Alameda, 9 Feb 2016 #1

[kimi_SFC]

Just chiming in after catching up this morning to send my thoughts and prayers to JoyM, John and his family. Again, thank you all for the stellar work being done on John's thread!

I'll be singing in choir shortly and I've asked our pastor to pray for the searchers this morning.
raying:

Your dedication to bringing John home is tremendous. Awaiting updates with my fellow WSers...

:candle:

#FindJohn



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[1&2&3]

Just had a thought. In my city there are many public places where one can go to use a computer. Have no idea what they are called, it looks like a regular retail store in a strip shopping center, however, inside both sides of the wall have computers on them. You pay by the hour.

Are there any of these in the area that John could be stopping by? It would be a place he would blend in with the crowd, could get off his feet, get the world news if so inclined, or plan his next couple days of travel.

Thinking of all the searchers, friends, and family who have done such a miraculous job of putting many vague pieces together in their search for John. I feel they are getting closer, now if the public sightings will continue.

 

[persimmon]

I am feeling a little conflicted about the way tho case is going now.

I have been married for over 30 years. If my husband went missing I would pull out all the stops to try and locate him and bring him home safely. I have great respect and admiration for John's family and friends. They are amazing the way they have handled this mystery.

But I guess that if I eventually learned that my missing husband was traveling around voluntarily, and hiking local tourist spots and was alive and well----then what? I suppose the thought that he might be considering suicide is a strong motivation to keep searching for him. But I would be somewhat conflicted if I thought he was just on an adventure and trying to hide from the family.

I keep thinking that perhaps he has been silently suffering from a decline in mental health. I think men of that generation are less likely to share that with everybody. But the ongoing stress of the lawsuit coupled with the public aspect of that ordeal and an impending seizure of property could work ones mind into a place of darkness.

Im just suggesting that he might be acting outside the norm without an awareness of the suffering he is causing his family and friends. He is hiking around beautiful places. The kind of places that make you feel better when you're there. Idk I'm wondering if he has missed other court appointments? The fact that he missed court, is telling to me. He couldnt take it any longer....he snapped a bit? But he must then have some money or somehow a friend who isn't aware he is missing?
Ive seen coverage in local communities so the story is out there. Be hard to think a friend is unaware but perhaps.

 

[persimmon]

Just had a thought. In my city there are many public places where one can go to use a computer. Have no idea what they are called, it looks like a regular retail store in a strip shopping center, however, inside both sides of the wall have computers on them. You pay by the hour.

Are there any of these in the area that John could be stopping by? It would be a place he would blend in with the crowd, could get off his feet, get the world news if so inclined, or plan his next couple days of travel.

Thinking of all the searchers, friends, and family who have done such a miraculous job of putting many vague pieces together in their search for John. I feel they are getting closer, now if the public sightings will continue.

I think they are referred to as Internet cafes. Yes, internet access is all over this region.

 

[persimmon]

Battle Creek, NV is very close to I80 the coast to coast Interstate. Maybe he was contemplating a long journey.

 

[LaborDayRN]

I keep thinking that perhaps he has been silently suffering from a decline in mental health. I think men of that generation are less likely to share that with everybody. But the ongoing stress of the lawsuit coupled with the public aspect of that ordeal and an impending seizure of property could work ones mind into a place of darkness.

Im just suggesting that he might be acting outside the norm without an awareness of the suffering he is causing his family and friends. He is hiking around beautiful places. The kind of places that make you feel better when you're there. Idk I'm wondering if he has missed other court appointments? The fact that he missed court, is telling to me. He couldnt take it any longer....he snapped a bit? But he must then have some money or somehow a friend who isn't aware he is missing?
Ive seen coverage in local communities so the story is out there. Be hard to think a friend is unaware but perhaps.

BBM: I've been thinking the same thing. It's actually what Robin Williams family believes was the reason behind his suicide.

"Lewy Body Dementia killed Robin," she said definitively. "It's what took his life and that's what I've spent the last year trying to get to the bottom of.
While they did not know the culprit behind his mental battle at the time, Schneider says her husband knew something was definitely wrong from the start.
"He was aware of it. He was keeping it together as best as he could, but the last month he could not. It was like the dam broke." she said, adding that while he was scheduled to go for neurocognitive testing around the time of his death, she believes his suicide was his way of regaining control. "I think he was just saying no and I don't blame him one bit.""

It must be frightening to know you are in a state of mental decline but there is nothing you can do to stop it.

 

[bellesnwhistles]

Was hoping to come here and see he had been found. What kind of area is this new place he was possibly sighted in?

 

[persimmon]

Was hoping to come here and see he had been found. What kind of area is this new place he was possibly sighted in?

It's in what we call wine country. Very near to Napa and warmer than SF coastal area. Beautiful, scenic area with an active arts culture and a few wineries. It's a small town in my opinion and I don't think a place to hide out.

 

[persimmon]

BBM: I've been thinking the same thing. It's actually what Robin Williams family believes was the reason behind his suicide.


It must be frightening to know you are in a state of mental decline but there is nothing you can do to stop it.

Yes, I imagine that he must have felt a loss of control in battling a prolonged court case and all the minutia involved. I don't know the details but I know he was fighting the government which would seem an impossible feat. Often a man's identity is bound to his work and success...his ability to provide for his family and losing that ground could cause a loss of self. I cannot imagine any person in his shoes not suffering.

 

[Lilibet]

Yes, I imagine that he must have felt a loss of control in battling a prolonged court case and all the minutia involved. I don't know the details but I know he was fighting the government which would seem an impossible feat. Often a man's identity is bound to his work and success...his ability to provide for his family and losing that ground could cause a loss of self. I cannot imagine any person in his shoes not suffering.

I think it might help if we had some clarity about what the meeting in Oakland 2/9 was about, not that it's any of our business, of course. My early recollection is that it had to do with his bankruptcy, not the FTC appeal. The liquidating receiver appointed last August was seizing his assets and the court was allowing him to stay in his home until the FTC appeal was decided, if what we read is accurate. But the coincidence of missing a court appointment and walking at Lands End leads me to believe that something very significant was happening. Was there something he was supposed to sign that day? Is it possible that his family did not know the immediate gravity of the situation? There was a comment his daughter made that things were looking up, but I don't see how they could be. I'm haunted by the anxious look on his face in the first photo we saw. I'm stumped and so sorry for all of them. Where are you John?

http://alamedasun.com/news/alameda-man-disappears

 

[persimmon]

I think it might help if we had some clarity about what the meeting in Oakland 2/9 was about, not that it's any of our business, of course. My early recollection is that it had to do with his bankruptcy, not the FTC appeal. The liquidating receiver appointed last August was seizing his assets and the court was allowing him to stay in his home until the FTC appeal was decided, if what we read is accurate. But the coincidence of missing a court appointment and walking at Lands End leads me to believe that something very significant was happening. Was there something he was supposed to sign that day? Is it possible that his family did not know the immediate gravity of the situation? There was a comment his daughter made that things were looking up, but I don't see how they could be. I'm haunted by the anxious look on his face in the first photo we saw. I'm stumped and so sorry for all of them. Where are you John?

http://alamedasun.com/news/alameda-man-disappears

Let me look at the court calendar.

 

[persimmon]

I think it might help if we had some clarity about what the meeting in Oakland 2/9 was about, not that it's any of our business, of course. My early recollection is that it had to do with his bankruptcy, not the FTC appeal. The liquidating receiver appointed last August was seizing his assets and the court was allowing him to stay in his home until the FTC appeal was decided, if what we read is accurate. But the coincidence of missing a court appointment and walking at Lands End leads me to believe that something very significant was happening. Was there something he was supposed to sign that day? Is it possible that his family did not know the immediate gravity of the situation? There was a comment his daughter made that things were looking up, but I don't see how they could be. I'm haunted by the anxious look on his face in the first photo we saw. I'm stumped and so sorry for all of them. Where are you John?

http://alamedasun.com/news/alameda-man-disappears

I think you're correct as that Clay Street address is where the bankruptcy court is located. Online access to cases doesn't seem to be available.

 

[Lilibet]

I think you're correct as that Clay Street address is where the bankruptcy court is located. Online access to cases doesn't seem to be available.

Thanks for checking! Here's a possibility I'm mulling over. If the court hearing for the bankruptcy on 2/9 would put John in the position of losing the house they lived in sooner than expected, is it possible John would feel that disappearing would at least make his wife's life materially easier for the time being. Although CA is a community property state, without John the case may take many more years to process. None of this helps to find John, but I'm just trying to make sense of why he would disappear that particular day. Knowing that might help the search...or not. Apologies for my muddled rambling.

 

[JoyM]

Joy, you may have done this already but I'd also suggest putting up posters in the Golden Gate Transit "hooch" near the toll plaza of the bridge. (There's one on either side of the roadway.) Back when I commuted to the City, it was usually the same riders on the buses day in and day out, and most people were of pre-retirement age, so either drivers or commuters may remember John since he'd be a non-regular as well as a bit older than the usual commuter crowd.

We are thinking alike! We had already done this on the SF side and just today did it on the Marin side. Thank you, Lilibet!!

 

[JoyM]

Maybe the local library in the town John is from should be questioned?
Perhaps he did some extra research there online that he knew wouldn't be traced?
We librarians know our regulars - or an older gent with a hat just might have stuck out.

good idea! We'll look into this!

 

[JoyM]

It's in what we call wine country. Very near to Napa and warmer than SF coastal area. Beautiful, scenic area with an active arts culture and a few wineries. It's a small town in my opinion and I don't think a place to hide out.

Yes. We are not certain about this sighting. The eyewitness was driving and he was walking. She believes it was him, but she's not 100% sure. The search team spoke to so many people yesterday, and it is a very small town. We are still taking this seriously, but we're also aware of the possibility it was another older white man with the same hat. My father has that hat too--I think it's not uncommon.

 

[JoyM]

But I guess that if I eventually learned that my missing husband was traveling around voluntarily, and hiking local tourist spots and was alive and well----then what? I suppose the thought that he might be considering suicide is a strong motivation to keep searching for him. But I would be somewhat conflicted if I thought he was just on an adventure and trying to hide from the family.

From what we know of John, we think there must be something gravely wrong either mentally/emotionally or physically for him to have been missing this long. But I agree, if we learn that he's just on adventure, I'd be annoyed . (But still grateful that he's safe.) I'm fairly certain that there is a severe mental/emotional or medical issue to blame here. And I hope we will know soon, either way!

 

[JoyM]

Just had a thought. In my city there are many public places where one can go to use a computer. Have no idea what they are called, it looks like a regular retail store in a strip shopping center, however, inside both sides of the wall have computers on them. You pay by the hour.

Are there any of these in the area that John could be stopping by? It would be a place he would blend in with the crowd, could get off his feet, get the world news if so inclined, or plan his next couple days of travel.

Thinking of all the searchers, friends, and family who have done such a miraculous job of putting many vague pieces together in their search for John. I feel they are getting closer, now if the public sightings will continue.

We have this on our list! It's a good thought. Thank you!

 

[JoyM]

I think it might help if we had some clarity about what the meeting in Oakland 2/9 was about, not that it's any of our business, of course. My early recollection is that it had to do with his bankruptcy, not the FTC appeal. The liquidating receiver appointed last August was seizing his assets and the court was allowing him to stay in his home until the FTC appeal was decided, if what we read is accurate. But the coincidence of missing a court appointment and walking at Lands End leads me to believe that something very significant was happening. Was there something he was supposed to sign that day? Is it possible that his family did not know the immediate gravity of the situation? There was a comment his daughter made that things were looking up, but I don't see how they could be. I'm haunted by the anxious look on his face in the first photo we saw. I'm stumped and so sorry for all of them. Where are you John?

http://alamedasun.com/news/alameda-man-disappears

I'm not totally certain of all the details, but I know it was one meeting of a long series of meeting i/r/t the bankruptcy. The family didn't think it was a particularly consequential one--it has been a long legal process.

 

[JoyM]

Thanks for checking! Here's a possibility I'm mulling over. If the court hearing for the bankruptcy on 2/9 would put John in the position of losing the house they lived in sooner than expected, is it possible John would feel that disappearing would at least make his wife's life materially easier for the time being. Although CA is a community property state, without John the case may take many more years to process. None of this helps to find John, but I'm just trying to make sense of why he would disappear that particular day. Knowing that might help the search...or not. Apologies for my muddled rambling.

No, I'm afraid the bankruptcy process will proceed regardless of whether John is present or not. But this is a good thought--I had the same question myself.