CA CA - Karlie Lain Gusé, 16, Mono County, 13 Oct 2018 #2

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  • #321
I'm not familiar with instagram but doesn't that account (with her name) belong to somebody else (i.e., ..beans)? TIA
Looks like the BF's Insta...
 
  • #322
I'm not familiar with instagram but doesn't that account (with her name) belong to somebody else (i.e., ..beans)? TIA
The account I shared, with her name, is hers. She has a link on her profile to her boyfriend's account. Kids do this when they're dating.
 
  • #323
Why in the world would these so-called crazy people (me and the rest of the concerned world) choose to crucify 3 innocent witnesses out of all the shady folk whom are involved in this case? Thats just absurd. They are witnesses, not murder suspects. Sounds silly to even suggest that they would be subject to harassment by all the internet 5150's. They would be the least of anyones worries, including the crazies.
In fact, I would appreciate them for their witness accounts because that would mean SM had nothing to do with her disappearance and that she was actually last seen alive. This would be good news for all.
As for allowing LE to do their job, who interfered? I would do the same, give what i have over to LE, and, like you, let them do their job. However, I wouldnt see it necessary to remain anonymous as these witnesses have. Id make myself avail to further assist LE as well as offer my account to the news media. But thats just me.
Actually it happens more often than not. You may be surprised. Witnesses are treated as suspects by the community/internet. Their past is scrutinized, Internet sleuths dig up anything they can find, their families (including children) are harassed in the community/at work/school. It can be a hellish experience for a witness of a crime. Hopefully when the crime is solved, it ends. But some unsolved crimes it can affect their entire lives, as well as their children’s/families lives.

What would the good be from them giving media interviews? It would satisfy public curiosity? Give them more ammo to use? Then you have media knocking on your door? Following you in public?

If LE says the witnesses credible, that is good enough for me. That is their job, I don’t need to see them on the news.

If I was a witness I’d absolutely remain anonymous. Not absurd.
 
  • #324
I can understand wanting to remain anonymous and at the same time I am not satisfied with LE saying credible. So in my mind, we just don't know if there were sightings or not.
 
  • #325
I can understand wanting to remain anonymous and at the same time I am not satisfied with LE saying credible. So in my mind, we just don't know if there were sightings or not.
There very well may have been sightings of someone wearing that first clothing description given, but that doesn't mean it was Karlie. Just sayin'.
 
  • #326
If I remember correctly, the witnesses didn't say "yes I saw Karlie", they said they saw a young female walking around and described and outfit that did not match the description of the outfit Karlie was wearing. I don't believe these witnesses saw Karlie.
 
  • #327
Right? I mean, why have none of them made themselves known?
From what I understand they want to remain anonymous, but what for?
Why would they choose to not be seen or heard from with all question their witness accounts have raised? Honestly, refusing to come forward publicly is causing more problems than anything for SM and BD. Why would these witnesses prefer their accounts be doubted rather than provide relevance to SM's claims? Sounds like some messed up people live in that town.
If they cannot materialize in human form than Im simply never going to believe they exist. They have no reason to fear for their lives over this, just an excuse that raised even more question in my opinion.
These witnesses were never confirmed either. How could the wooder be confirmed? Impossible! SM said she spoke to him early morning but sheriff didnt even arrive on scene until late afternoon/early evening... They think i believe the wooder stuck around to be confirmed for nearly 10-12 hours? They didnt confirm any of this. Corruption. Poor Karlie.
So, if you were a juror, you would not believe a witness because they did not appear on television?
 
  • #328
If I remember correctly, the witnesses didn't say "yes I saw Karlie", they said they saw a young female walking around and described and outfit that did not match the description of the outfit Karlie was wearing. I don't believe these witnesses saw Karlie.

Given they were new to the neighborhood -- none of the witnesses knew Karlie and/or had ever seen her before to really know if that's who they witnessed. I don't think this was ever clear in the media.

What was clear is that witnesses described clothes that SM was wearing. I also know that SM publicly stated on Dr Phil that she was lied about clothes Karlie was wearing when she disappeared (or was it her clothes?). I forget!

MOO
 
  • #329
SM has told so many lies, and MCSO continues to back her up. This leads me to believe that LE isnt credible, shes not credible, most of the town isnt credible.
Its so sad for Karlie. Lots of people to blame for this poor child still being missing, lots.
Reminds me of the Hailey Dunn case. Even though her remains were later found, no one has ever been arrested for her murder.

Where is Karlie?!
 
  • #330
Reminds me of the Hailey Dunn case. Even though her remains were later found, no one has ever been arrested for her murder.

Where is Karlie?!
At this point, there are people out there who really care about Karlie and that are suffering, she needs to be found. At least that. This case makes me so sad.
 
  • #331
Reminds me of the Hailey Dunn case. Even though her remains were later found, no one has ever been arrested for her murder.

Where is Karlie?!

I wish i knew.
I dont know about the Hailey Dunn case. Ill have to look it up.
At this point, I dont really know if she will ever be found. Hard to be optimistic after watching the way this case unfolded.
 
  • #332
So, if you were a juror, you would not believe a witness because they did not appear on television?
If I was a juror then the witness would have to materialize, it would otherwise be hearsay, not admissable. These witness accounts make all the difference in this case. I hope you dont truly think they wouldnt have to testify...
Doesnt necessarily mean they would have to be on tv but how about an interview for print media, an actual notable one. Not some amateur unknown journalist looking for his big break... You know what I mean, I know you do.
 
  • #333
Reminds me of the Hailey Dunn case. Even though her remains were later found, no one has ever been arrested for her murder.

Where is Karlie?!


Reminds me of Hailey as well....this is ridiculous
 
  • #334
Actually it happens more often than not. You may be surprised. Witnesses are treated as suspects by the community/internet. Their past is scrutinized, Internet sleuths dig up anything they can find, their families (including children) are harassed in the community/at work/school. It can be a hellish experience for a witness of a crime. Hopefully when the crime is solved, it ends. But some unsolved crimes it can affect their entire lives, as well as their children’s/families lives.

What would the good be from them giving media interviews? It would satisfy public curiosity? Give them more ammo to use? Then you have media knocking on your door? Following you in public?

If LE says the witnesses credible, that is good enough for me. That is their job, I don’t need to see them on the news.

If I was a witness I’d absolutely remain anonymous. Not absurd.

Well thats your opinion and I respect that, but I disagree because these people didnt witness a crime, they witnessed a young girl walking down the street... So why choose to remain unknown when there is no crime involved? I can understand if there was a crime but there wasnt, so whats the big deal? A girl passing by someones home is not a crime but fabricating a witness account is.
I dont put all my faith in any one person or group because people lie, everyone does. Just because they have a badge doesnt mean what they say is fact, especially after the poor job LE has done with investigating Karlie's case. I only put my trust in LE based on their work ethic and this agency has done nothing by the book and that raises red flags all over the place for me. Its not like its never happened before. Plenty of corrupt and incompetent LE out there... We see it all the time. I have the utmost respect for LE but even I have my limits and Mono has corruption written all over this case. Thats my opinion of course.
 
  • #335
Given they were new to the neighborhood -- none of the witnesses knew Karlie and/or had ever seen her before to really know if that's who they witnessed. I don't think this was ever clear in the media.

What was clear is that witnesses described clothes that SM was wearing. I also know that SM publicly stated on Dr Phil that she was lied about clothes Karlie was wearing when she disappeared (or was it her clothes?). I forget!

MOO
Who knows anymore??? Ive lost track of that womans lies.
 
  • #336
This is the Official FB Page ran by SM and the family of Karlie Gusé. I hope Im not violating any rules but I think its okay because its public and ran by the family..??? Forgive me if im wrong.

Bring Karlie Home

This public post is alarming. The things said are so ugly and confrontational. What is wrong with SM? Doesnt she know that she brought this on by making public videos. IMOO

Bring Karlie Home
 
  • #337
I wish i knew.
I dont know about the Hailey Dunn case. Ill have to look it up.
At this point, I dont really know if she will ever be found. Hard to be optimistic after watching the way this case unfolded.
There were also people who said they saw Hailey, none of the eyewitness sightings were true. The last person to see her alive is believed to be responsible for her murder. But eight years later still has not been arrested. The investigation in her case was also "botched". Hailey's Mom was very controversial. Like I said, some similarities to Karlie's case.
 
  • #338
This is the Official FB Page ran by SM and the family of Karlie Gusé. I hope Im not violating any rules but I think its okay because its public and ran by the family..??? Forgive me if im wrong.

Bring Karlie Home

This public post is alarming. The things said are so ugly and confrontational. What is wrong with SM? Doesnt she know that she brought this on by making public videos. IMOO

Bring Karlie Home
One comment on her post sums it up nicely, "I think people are struggling because it doesn't make sense".

IMO, MG has poor decision making/impulse control, which is why we are here discussing Karlie missing to begin with. She should have taken her to an ER that night.
Has she ever admitted that was a mistake? I ask because I have not followed this case from the beginning.
 
  • #339
There were also people who said they saw Hailey, none of the eyewitness sightings were true. The last person to see her alive is believed to be responsible for her murder. But eight years later still has not been arrested. The investigation in her case was also "botched". Hailey's Mom was very controversial. Like I said, some similarities to Karlie's case.
Then Haileys case bares similarities to another ongoing case... Alisha Lynn Blair Ivy. The last person to see her alive is also the one responsible for her death. Crazy. Bogus friends, bogus witnesses.
Has Haileys case been closed/solved, cold, or still open?
 
  • #340
One comment on her post sums it up nicely, "I think people are struggling because it doesn't make sense".

IMO, MG has poor decision making/impulse control, which is why we are here discussing Karlie missing to begin with. She should have taken her to an ER that night.
Has she ever admitted that was a mistake? I ask because I have not followed this case from the beginning.


I have honestly never heard her admit to any wrongdoing whatsoever through all of this. Her excuse is always that "she was never provided the handbook on how to handle a missing child."
What I hear when she says that is her making more excuses for what she has done incorrectly but is not willing to publicly own any responsibility. Shes a classic case of a sociopath, shes the only one that matters, and she feels no remorse for her mistakes or ill will.
Yes, and it seems that comment is the only one that doesnt praise her for such an obnoxious post. She cant be mad at the public's opinion when she personally invited the public to watch her FB Lives. She did this to herself and blames everyone else. Its ridiculous. Poor Karlie.
 
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