Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #6

[getthefax]

Regarding the map below, and presuming this was an accident:

If she took the green road in the photo, how would she have taken that sharp right turn to the path leading to the lake? It looks impossible to me without having to stop and do a three-point-turn.

The purple route also doesn't look likely as if she were driving on the foreshore of the lake, surely the lake would glisten and glint when it reflected her headlights. Plus the sandy mud would've felt different under her tyres.

So for me, the only likely route she took was the white route. Out of the parking, turn right and a straight run down into the lake.

MOO.

-Edited for typos.-

She absolutely could have gone the white route to the right of the map. The white route toward the other way was filled with water at the time (see all the previous maps posted from last night, from @otto and @OldCop et al). There have been a ton of maps posted over the past couple days.

That said, the question would be, “why?” And “is it likely?”
IMHO the most likely (if she did in fact get out there across that beach on her own, which is not yet substantiated but which I believe to be true based on what we know so far), is that she may have even thought she was on that road, or that she knew she wasn’t but thought it would be a quick hop to the fishtail part, where she would turn left, and missed it, and —not being able to see how close the water was to the right (in the dark, w/a drop-off), she continued on straight into the water (which was higher at that time).

 

[Truckeeite]

Now I’m confused all over again.

I see your “X” where you say the difficult dirt road begins. But I’m also seeing Steve Fischer drive that road at a decent clip, one hand on the wheel and the other filming with his phone.

He may have a better off road vehicle than I do. Mine is a standard mid size SUV similar to Kiely's.

That's why I posted the info yesterday because his video in no way prepared me for what it would actually be like to drive there. I also do not know whether he was driving the leg that I didn't take, from the parking area out and if that portion of the road is smoother. But that's not the portion near the lake.

 

[Sunny Day]

I'm not so sure that she was really so worried about getting home fast to meet curfew that she would have taken that weird, circuitous route to get home faster. Her mom had extended the curfew and IIRC she had been granted extensions on previous occasions and I think I read that her mom just told her to wake her up when she got home. I remember during my younger, wilder, party days my mom was quite permissive (and trusting). When I was out with my friends she would just go on to bed. Many times she would go to bed and never even knew what time I got home. I'm not suggesting that was the case with KR, but it happens. The one time I got caught not being where I was supposed to be was when one of my friends parents got suspicious and went out looking for us. They found us, called all our parents, and everyone was grounded!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Adventures With Purpose — an Oregon-based volunteer dive team who helped find Kiely Rodni's car and remains in the Prosser Reservoir in California on Aug. 21 — will now lend their expertise to two other missing person cases in the state: Annette Adams and Jolissa Fuentes.

The team was alerted of the missing women while searching for Rodni.

Volunteer Divers Who Helped Find Kiely Rodni's Remains Plan to Search for 2 More Missing Women in California

Jolissa Fuentes, 22, vanished from a gas station in Selma, Calif., during the early morning hours of Aug. 7, after reportedly getting into a disagreement with a friend at a party.

people.com

 

[getthefax]

He may have a better off road vehicle than I do. Mine is a standard mid size SUV similar to Kiely's.

That's why I posted the info yesterday because his video in no way prepared me for what it would actually be like to drive there. I also do not know whether he was driving the leg that I didn't take, from the parking area out and if that portion of the road is smoother. But that's not the portion near the lake.

his car is in one of his videos.
Screenshot of his car below:

I think @Truckeeite you were definitely on a different road.

 

[otto]

 

[windrower]

Simple. If you Google Map by car the Prosser Campground to The Lost Lodge it is 30 minutes by 89, IRRC, 30-35 min. via Alder Creek Rd. - a road less traveled. This was established here long ago.

Sorry, RedHaus, I chuckled and shook my head at your comment. Google Maps says a lot of things that aren’t true.

Look up “death by Google Maps” for why total reliance on Google Maps is not a good idea.

(By the way, I very much appreciated your comments and research on the Esther Dingley(?) thread. That was a tough story.)

 

[getthefax]

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Thx for the maps, as usual, @otto - super helpful (i keep making mine from my phone and it’s a bit of a pain).

But yes to these possibilities. OR, she could have parked at #1 and instead of backing out, decided to cut straight down toward #3 and gone left along the brush line, planning to meet up with the official (though still unpaved) road again, and instead missed that and went into the water.

Thanks again for the great visuals.

 

[Truckeeite]

his car is in one of his videos.
Screenshot of his car below:


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I think @Truckeeite you were definitely on a different road.

Did you look at the map? There is a different road that I did not take, as I've now noted a couple of times. It goes from where the parking at the party apparently was to the road that I was on and some have reported that it's a smoother road.

Remember, when he recorded that video, she had not yet been found in the lake. He was illustrating the most direct route to her house, not the road to the beach/lake. He still would have driven on part of the road I'm talking about but the first portion he drove may be smoother.

I illustrated on the map exactly where I drove. That is also the road to the beach/lake where she likely would have been driving.

Edit: so I went back and looked again. He definitely was on a portion of what I drove but you can see the reservoir is off in the distance, he was not close to the lake. That said, I don't think the video conveys the actual experience even in the portion where he drove the same part that I did. Maybe because I had stuff in the back of my car that was crashing around it was all the more noticeable. There were huge ruts and bumps. Many parts of the road were extremely narrow. Wish I had a dash cam but I don't. All I can say is what I said before. His car does rock back and forth sometimes. His video did not prepare me for the actual experience.

I guess it's also to say that for me the drive was stressful. I actually had plants in the back of the car that were knocked all over the place and significantly damaged by this drive. In order to drive it safely, I had to be very focused and really pay attention to each huge bump or rut that was appearing in front of me. That meant going fast was not an option.

It's easy to imagine someone dozing off on the freeway or even speeding into a lake on a paved road that looks like everything else they were driving until the last second. It's much harder for me to imagine such a scenario when the road is knocking you back and forth and demanding attention at each moment.

 

[ijuswannaplay2]

How could she turn right, instead of left, slowly drive towards the water, and not realize that she'd made a mistake while she was driving 50+ yards on the beach?

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I can't find the article that included her friend pointing out where she had actually parked and then where the kids were partying. But if I remember correctly the road to go out she'd have had to turn right on it to leave the party area. Maybe it's possible in her condition that she forgot she had already made that turn and when she came to the fork, that's when she made the fatal error of turning right? I dunno. Found the video: Teens at California party where Kiely Rodni disappeared asked to share videos and photos

 

[annpats]

Did the lake water really recede that much in just 2 weeks?!?

Because if it hadn't receded at all, the car would've been found much more than 55ft off shore.....more like 155ft!

If the water really was that high, then the car drifted/floated a lot after sinking or maybe she went in at a high speed that added to the forward motion?

MOO.

 

[otto]

Thx for the maps, as usual, @otto - super helpful (i keep making mine from my phone and it’s a bit of a pain).

But yes to these possibilities. OR, she could have parked at #1 and instead of backing out, decided to cut straight down toward #3 and gone left along the brush line, planning to meet up with the official (though still unpaved) road again, and instead missed that and went into the water.

Thanks again for the great visuals.

Knowing where she parked would make it easier to understand how she might have made the mistake of driving down the wrong road and straight into the water.

 

[otto]

Did the lake water really recede that much in just 2 weeks?!?

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The google map is 2022, but we don't know which month. The water levels on Aug 8 and 21 are much higher than in the google maps - based on the aerial photos during the car recovery.

 

[Gardenista]

Did the lake water really recede that much in just 2 weeks?!?

Because if it hadn't receded at all, the car would've been found much more than 55ft off shore.....more like 155ft!

If the water really was that high, then the car drifted/floated a lot after sinking or maybe she went in at a high speed that added to the forward motion?

MOO.

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Sheriff said it was 25 feet higher on the bank when she went missing

 

[Allabouttrial]

Video showing SS pointing to where Kiely's car was parked.

Timestamp 1:49.

 

[annpats]

Sheriff said it was 25 feet higher on the bank when she went missing

Thank you. I'm grateful for that added information.

 

[Warwick7]

A quick look at Google earth shows tracks all
Over all the beaches all around the reservoir—it’s allowable and typical for folks to off-toad and drive all around there, so while they may have looked for tracks, it may have been difficult to follow hers specifically, especially once they had so many searchers out there.

BBM
You took the words out of my mouth. Other searchers, even , and just folks in general wanting to be down at the water.

 

[Warwick7]

Regarding the map below, and presuming this was an accident:

If she took the green road in the photo, how would she have taken that sharp right turn to the path leading to the lake? It looks impossible to me without having to stop and do a three-point-turn.

The purple route also doesn't look likely as if she were driving on the foreshore of the lake, surely the lake would glisten and glint when it reflected her headlights. Plus the sandy mud would've felt different under her tyres.

So for me, the only likely route she took was the white route. Out of the parking, turn right and a straight run down into the lake.

MOO.

Is this the same idea as another poster had? I can't remember but I think OP said something about possibly KR leaving, dropping down near the shoreline and leaving (the purple arrow). That, to makes sense. Instead of turning left and heading north, she could have turned right...into the water.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The google map is 2022, but we don't know which month. The water levels on Aug 8 and 21 are much higher than in the google maps - based on the aerial photos during the car recovery.

Google maps date on the bottom is not the date of the image. If I look at my family's "Ranch" property image it say's "2022 Data" but it's from last year. I can tell because I can see the solar panel's I put up and where a neighbor cut brush and put in a long section of fence. It doesn't show a road extension that we did in January of this year.

In my opinion it's hard to say when the Google Maps image of Prosser Lake was taken. JMO.

 

[Truckeeite]

Thank you. I'm grateful for that added information.

I think we determined it was only 4-5 feet higher but maybe that meant 25 feet less shoreline at the beach where the car was found.