Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #6

[Gemmie]

That's the one factor I can't get around either. If she did travel the beach, how did no one see her? Surely, she couldn't have been the only person or vehicle on the beach with that many people around.

Has anyone addressed the police tape that was on the beach? It was a squared off section in the upper right section of the picture. There were 2 orange cones not too far from it as well.

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While this may mean absolutely nothing, here is an observation I made about the photo in @Look4theHelpers post.

There are tire tracks between the rear of Kiely's car, and the back of the tow truck. While the tow could have driven all the way down to the shoreline before driving forward again, I'm thinking they didn't get that close to the water unless they needed to drop some heavy tools/equipment off so rescuers aren't having to haul it there themselves.

But IF that's as close as the tow got to the water, then those tracks had to be made by Kiely's car which would have pinpointed her location. So if that's the case, I'm surprised she wasn't found before AWP came in. They basically are like an arrow pointing and saying "Look here".

 

[SpideySense]

I wasn’t doubting you but this really helps clear up some of the confusion, I think. It looks like the “nicer” road bears right and you went left, to go more south. IMO

Agreed (except I think you mean right at the fishtail, not left, to go more south), and I don’t think we have any evidence that cars went down that right turn to go south. That’s where the one of the party locations was, but my understanding from everything I’ve read and another video from Steve Fischer is that the cars were parked up the road to the Sanctuary, in open areas near the trees.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

If she was wearing it, I'm sure she would've taken her seatbelt off once her vehicle started to fill up with water. I doubt she would have just sat there with it on while she sank.

Seatbelt off, would be the first thing. Then either try to open the door, or roll down a window....and you may only have a few seconds to do all of that.

Exactly! 20 seconds and It is hard for me to believe a 16 year old perhaps inebriated would be able to think that quick. Not sure I would, but then I am 70 and do not think as fast as once did. JMO

 

[Truckeeite]

I agree! All we have are tales brought to us by Sami, very little being supported by facts given by law enforcement. Remember LE has not confirmed anything. Did she even attend the party? We DO know she texted her mom and replied to Jagger, but was she the one that sent the text? The only other text was sent to Sami--or did someone else send that text to provide a timeline. Phone dead after this text near the lake. That is all we have.

Everything about this case is hearsay until LE gives us the Facts at a Press Conference.....We have heard no facts from them, just need for information.

Somehow AWP finding her car 30 minutes after getting to the ping site is a mystery as to HOW LE could have gone to that same ping site and NOT found the car in the days after Kiely went missing. Makes me wonder if the car was even in that water before AWP
got there. She may have died somewhere else and brought there after LE search.
Something seems off with this community IMO

Correct that we have few facts confirmed by LE. However, LE did confirm they had a video of Kiely at the party wearing the Odd Future hoodie. They did not publish the video nor did they say the precise time the video was taken. We have that other witness Elsa saying she saw Kiely at the party around midnight. From (around) midnight to 12:33 am with the last ping, we don't know what happened.

 

[SpideySense]

Unfortunately, I don't know how to do great editing in Preview yet. Here's a screenshot of the map from Prosser Family Campground (satellite version)

The thin black line is the route I took. At the very top, you're still on the paved road. If you stayed on the paved road, it would take you to the boat launch on the other side.

Instead, I veered off at the sign that said "not recommended" for cars, only to cringe as my car dropped off the pavement and made a loud clunking sound.

I put an X on the map near where the paved road turns into the difficult dirt road.

I drove first to the beach area. The small circle is approximately where I took the photo of her memorial.

Then I drove back up the little side road and intended to go all the way to the party location. But the road got even worse and I didn't want to damage my car so turned back.

Now I’m confused all over again.

I see your “X” where you say the difficult dirt road begins. But I’m also seeing Steve Fischer drive that road at a decent clip, one hand on the wheel and the other filming with his phone.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Again, I have no idea what happened. I'm only saying the idea that she took a wrong turn to the lake, drove however many yards on what was obviously the beach and just "accidentally" landed herself in the water is not believable to me.

She wasn't found in the driver's seat. We have no idea whether she was in the driver's seat. We don't know if she was alive or dead going into the water. We don't know how the damage happened to the car.

All legit questions- hopefully we get the full picture when the full accident investigation team report is released.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

There were various search teams from different authorities, locals on foot, ATVs and vehicles around this whole area for 2 weeks before she was found. If anyone decided to dump her car in the lake, they'd have been seen!

AWP found the car because that's what they do! Many police search teams don't have the time, funds, ability, the equipment and the speciality that AWP has. They have sonar equipment....and the police divers were trying to find something in 14ft. of murky water with their eyes!

AWP are amazing. They have the same sonar equipment Law enforcement has they just know how to manipulate it better and that is what counts

 

[otto]

I've been looking at the pictures on msm. I see a fairly large square roped off. Untnil I saw the pictures I thought the area would be rather small.

I've modified the image using photoshop and added dots to mark the approximate corners of the squared off area near the beach.

 

[SpideySense]

While this may mean absolutely nothing, here is an observation I made about the photo in @Look4theHelpers post.

There are tire tracks between the rear of Kiely's car, and the back of the tow truck. While the tow could have driven all the say down to the shoreline before driving forward again, I'm thinking they didn't get that close to the water unless they needed to drop some heavy tools/equipment off so rescuers aren't having to haul it there themselves.

But IF that's as close as the tow got to the water, then those tracks had to be made by Kiely's car which would have pinpointed her location. So if that's the case, I'm surprised she wasn't found before AWP came in. They basically are like an arrow pointing and saying "Look here".

This!! With all that manpower and so many volunteers, did no one walk the entire perimeter of the reservoir close to the party looking for tracks ending at the water line?

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Yup, I saw a bunch of them coming down the road no problem.

Yup these people are the experts at driving their partners in crime to investigation scenes.......and it was daytime.

 

[SteveP]

I am sorry I missed that information . Where might I find that documentation and confirmation other than Sami . I thought that is why LE was begging for photos or witness statements .. Perhaps when they have a real Press conference they will confirm this.

You can find it in the Placer Co Sheriff's Dept press conference the day they showed the photo of a pink and white sweatshirt like the one Placer County LE confirmed that they had video of her wearing at the party.

 

[otto]

This!! With all that manpower and so many volunteers, did no one walk the entire perimeter of the reservoir close to the party looking for tracks ending at the water line?

Could those tracks have been caused by the search team putting a boat in the water on August 21? Maybe they would use the boat launch and circle around? Hard to say.

 

[Truckeeite]

Regarding the map below, and presuming this was an accident:

If she took the green road in the photo, how would she have taken that sharp right turn to the path leading to the lake? It looks impossible to me without having to stop and do a three-point-turn.

The purple route also doesn't look likely as if she were driving on the foreshore of the lake, surely the lake would glisten and glint when it reflected her headlights. Plus the sandy mud would've felt different under her tyres.

So for me, the only likely route she took was the white route. Out of the parking, turn right and a straight run down into the lake.

MOO.

Ah that map looks more helpful. Some people were saying parking was closer to the lake but it didn't really make sense. If there is a "better" road out up there, then it would seem to make even less sense how she ended up by the lake, especially if other people were leaving at the same time. I have no idea if that portion of the road is better because I didn't drive that leg - but that leg isn't near the lake.

 

[getthefax]

Regarding the map below, and presuming this was an accident:

If she took the green road in the photo, how would she have taken that sharp right turn to the path leading to the lake? It looks impossible to me without having to stop and do a three-point-turn.

The purple route also doesn't look likely as if she were driving on the foreshore of the lake, surely the lake would glisten and glint when it reflected her headlights. Plus the sandy mud would've felt different under her tyres.

So for me, the only likely route she took was the white route. Out of the parking, turn right and a straight run down into the lake.

MOO.

She wouldn’t have taken a sharp right turn. In the sketch i posted, She would only have had to have missed turning left, and stopped hugging the brush on the left, and the water would have been straight ahead of her.
With it being dark to the right, and with a drop off, she wouldn’t have even seen it.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Could those tracks might have been caused by the search team putting a boat in the water on August 21? Maybe they would use the boat launch and circle around? Hard to say.

Yes. I'm not seeing them on Steve Fisher's video (see around the 2:20 - 2:35 mark) at all.

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[Truckeeite]

While this may mean absolutely nothing, here is an observation I made about the photo in @Look4theHelpers post.

There are tire tracks between the rear of Kiely's car, and the back of the tow truck. While the tow could have driven all the say down to the shoreline before driving forward again, I'm thinking they didn't get that close to the water unless they needed to drop some heavy tools/equipment off so rescuers aren't having to haul it there themselves.

But IF that's as close as the tow got to the water, then those tracks had to be made by Kiely's car which would have pinpointed her location. So if that's the case, I'm surprised she wasn't found before AWP came in. They basically are like an arrow pointing and saying "Look here".

Not sure what's in the photo. there was a gouge on the beach when I went. They used a heavy cable to pull the car up and I suspect that cable put a pretty deep indentation into the beach. Wish I had taken a few more photos.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Re: the roped off squarish area:

Visible on Steve's video here beginning around 2:53.

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[MsMarple]

I am sorry I missed that information . Where might I find that documentation and confirmation other than Sami . I thought that is why LE was begging for photos or witness statements .. Perhaps when they have a real Press conference they will confirm this.

LE verified Kiely was at the party in the August 15 Press Conference @ 5:20.

 

[SpideySense]

I agree! All we have are tales brought to us by Sami, very little being supported by facts given by law enforcement. Remember LE has not confirmed anything. Did she even attend the party? We DO know she texted her mom and replied to Jagger, but was she the one that sent the text? The only other text was sent to Sami--or did someone else send that text to provide a timeline. Phone dead after this text near the lake. That is all we have.

Everything about this case is hearsay until LE gives us the Facts at a Press Conference.....We have heard no facts from them, just need for information.

Somehow AWP finding her car 30 minutes after getting to the ping site is a mystery as to HOW LE could have gone to that same ping site and NOT found the car in the days after Kiely went missing. Makes me wonder if the car was even in that water before AWP
got there. She may have died somewhere else and brought there after LE search.
Something seems off with this community IMO

If you watch AWP’s video describing what they did and how they found her, they do a better job than any of us can in explaining very clearly how they could find her and why LE couldn’t. It just comes down to technology and experience.

 

[getthefax]

This!! With all that manpower and so many volunteers, did no one walk the entire perimeter of the reservoir close to the party looking for tracks ending at the water line?

A quick look at Google earth shows tracks all
Over all the beaches all around the reservoir—it’s allowable and typical for folks to off-toad and drive all around there, so while they may have looked for tracks, it may have been difficult to follow hers specifically, especially once they had so many searchers out there.