Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #7

[imstilla.grandma]

We don’t even know if they were using pot at all, but any/all methods would probably have been at a party of that size. Mags referred to bong rips, but there were also social media pics of the same teens (not at the party) holding vape pens, so anything is possible until we have facts confirmed.

I use the cartridges but my stoner pen runs out easily if it’s set on high. This could have been what they were charging in the car. imo

 

[getthefax]

I use the cartridges but my stoner pen runs out easily if it’s set on high. This could have been what they were charging in the car.

Maybe- it is certainly possible. I was just going by what SS stated in her interviews, which was that they went to the car to charge their phones.

 

[Seattle1]

Thanks for this perspective. I wonder what percentage of AWP’s YT subscribers would define “adventure” in language similar to that used by Levy or Malraux… but it’s a fair point (and I think I did own my curmudgeonliness when I said I’m uncomfortable with the glib tone of that part of the moniker)…

I do know what SCUBA stands for (didn’t need a PhD for that, just some low-key NAUI diver certs). So that’s something, anyway.

Perhaps many more of the subscribers know the history where AWP did not start out to rescue or recover missing loved ones but that the charity evolved from the business of shipyard salvage, and why not dream about the adventures of finding buried treasures, that ultimately led to answering the compassionate call to help others-- using a skillset known to few. JMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Maybe- it is certainly possible. I was just going by what SS stated in her interviews, which was that they went to the car to charge their phones.

They could have been doing both but she might have chosen to stick with only the phone, understandably.

 

[Truckeeite]

<modsnip - discussing moderators’ actions>
Reviewing a few facts.

1. Based on the FB video authorized by the mods of the nighttime drive from the "party site" to the beach, it takes about 6-7 minutes to drive from the "party site" to the beach off which Kiely was found

[Added citations: Facebook video showing the drive from the "party site" to the beach at night was specifically approved by a moderator here: Found Deceased - CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #6 - it's post #775.
Screen shot approx 17:53 in the video she begins to drive from the "party site"
Screen shot approx 24:50 into the video she stops on the beach (note she's not all the way to the water)
Elapsed time of the drive = approximately 7 minutes]

Also note that at approximately the place in the video of the second screen shot, the driver says she can see the water even though it's dark.]

2. The last ping from Kiely's phone at 12:33 am was within 50 feet of where she was found: Mystery over how SUV of missing teen Kiely Rodni ended up in a reservoir

3. [Added note: I deduce from facts #1 and #2 that] Kiely would have had to leave the party by 12:26 or 12:27 to get to the reservoir by 12:33 am, and that's assuming there were zero obstacles in her path e.g., other cars trying to leave the party on super narrow roads. <modsnip>

In addition to other facts not computing, the math does not compute my friends.

New edit: <modsnip> the vimeo video cited here was specifically approved by a mod further up the threads:

(PI Steve Fischer video)

Note based on the night video and my own drive out to the site, the PI is not actually at the party site - and I believe he says this in the video and points off in that direction. He is at the fork in the road that our videographer made her first turn in the night video. It takes him about 4.25 minutes to get from that fork to 89 (video 1:04 to 5:20) but it took our nighttime videographer about 3.5 minutes to get from the party site to the fork (stopping briefly at 21:30 in her video). If we add those together, it takes about 7.25 minutes to get from the "party site" onto 89. That assumes no cars slowing someone down on the route.

 

[Megnut]

Maybe no one saw Kiely leave at 12:30 because she and SS went to her car much earlier. Do we know for fact that Kiely ever rejoined the party after the phone charging? Maybe she stayed in her car. Was she communicating with someone, did she have company in the car? Was she just killing time, expecting to give SS a ride home much earlier?

I'm not at all surprised no one apparently noticed Kiely leave the party for her car. How many would've noticed her going back and forth to her car at any point?

Right, it could have information about anything. I imagine it does. I remember posts saying it was inundated with people submitting duplicate tips, so hopefully LE has been able to wade through and get everything that was directly associated with people at the party.

Also, LE said they interviewed 400 people in connection. (It will take me a moment to locate source again, mentioned by a few posters in prior threads.)

Edited to ask something: Let's say people HAVE come forward to say they saw Kiely leave the party. What reason would LE have now to keep that private? It seems innocuous enough? i.e. "We now know a couple in fact saw the silver CRV leave just after 12:30 pm, but did not realize it was Kiely until ____ LE confirms..." or "Kids at the party came forward at the anonymous teen meetings to say they waved good bye.."

Might Kiely have moved her car to the beach much earlier, while she had moonlight on her side? No screeching air through the back windows if she wasn't doing much over 5mph.

So.... maybe no one saw Kiely leave at 12:30 because she left before midnight. To go park/party by the water.

Just some thoughts.

JMO

 

[getthefax]

Perhaps many more of the subscribers know the history where AWP did not start out to rescue or recover missing loved ones but that the charity evolved from the business of shipyard salvage, and why not dream about the adventures of finding buried treasures, that ultimately led to answering the compassionate call to help others-- using a skillset known to few. JMO

Yes. My (self-admitted, unnecessary) point was only that now they might consider evolving the name to more sensitively represent the gravity of the work that they have evolved to do and are currently undertaking (and getting a lot of press for) on the part of the missing and their families.
MOO, they are under zero obligation to care whatsoever what I think of their name.

 

[SMK777]

Maybe no one saw Kiely leave at 12:30 because she and SS went to her car much earlier. Do we know for fact that Kiely ever rejoined the party after the phone charging? Maybe she stayed in her car. Was she communicating with someone, did she have company in the car? Was she just killing time, expecting to give SS a ride home much earlier?

I'm not at all surprised no one apparently noticed Kiely leave the party for her car. How many would've noticed her going back and forth to her car at any point?

Might Kiely have moved her car to the beach much earlier, while she had moonlight on her side? No screeching air through the back windows if she wasn't doing much over 5mph.

So.... maybe no one saw Kiely leave at 12:30 because she left before midnight. To go park/party by the water.

Just some thoughts.

JMO

But how wind up in the water, then?

 

[Laughing]

IMO I'd think she's apply the brake. And it's hard for me to imagine someone continuing to drive on like that with an airbag in their face, no matter how messed up they were.

I also can't imagine driving more than a snail's pace on that road. @Truckeeite has described it, as well as the woman in that one vid upthread that drove it in the dark. What they relayed makes it hard for me to imagine someone speeding on it. MOO

Late to the party, but IIRC when a front airbag deploys -- generally fires out of the center of the steering wheel -- the driver is usually knocked unconscious.

We're all anxiously awaiting any news, aren't we?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Mominmi]

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Late to the party, but IIRC when a front airbag deploys -- generally fires out of the center of the steering wheel -- the driver is usually knocked unconscious.

We're all anxiously awaiting any news, aren't we?

jmho ymmv lrr

none of my relatives/friends/acquaintances who‘ve been in accidents with front airbag deployment were knocked unconscious. and I can think of around 20 people off the top of my head. They do usually end up with a black and blue, skint up face. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but I don’t think we can assume it would have happened either.

 

[Megnut]

But how wind up in the water, then?

My hypothesis is that she may have relocated to the beach while there was enough light to make the drive quite doable.

If she parked near the water for any length of time, she may have gotten stuck. In trying to rock out, perhaps she hit the gas, broke free and landed tragically in the reservoir.

JMO

 

[SteveP]

Just to be clear, LE have released absolutely no information stating where Kiely's car was parked at any time on the night of her disappearance, while at the party, what time she left, any path or road she may have taken to get from where it was parked to the water, or how it ended up where it did. It seems if they had known from where it went into the water, it might not have taken two weeks to find it. JMO

 

[Beekarina]

Hmm....

Although we DO hav Elsa stating she saw Kiely at the party around midnight, remember? So perhaps Kiely did not leave while it was light, but a few things seem like a very tight timeline.

August 6, 12 a.m. - Elsa Pekarek who was at the party saw Kiely around 12 a.m.

Timeline: The disappearance of 16-year-old Kiely Rodni

An exact timeline of missing Truckee teenager Kiely Rodndi.

foxreno.com

 

[getthefax]

Just to be clear, LE have released absolutely no information stating where Kiely's car was parked at any time on the night of her disappearance, while at the party, what time she left, any path or road she may have taken to get from where it was parked to the water, or how it ended up where it did. It seems if they had known from where it went into the water, it might not have taken two weeks to find it. JMO

This cannot be overstated ^

+1

 

[Beekarina]

And Sami told Inside Edition she saw Kiely at 12:25....

Search Is On for Missing Teen Amid Fears She Was Abducted After Party

The teen texted her mom around 11:30 p.m. last Friday to say she would be leaving the Lake Tahoe campground party soon, but never made it home. The 16-year-old's car is also missing.

www.insideedition.com

Sami Smith was at the party with Kiely and is one of the search coordinators.


“The last time I saw Kiely was around 12:25 in the morning of the party. I was leaving and I gave her a hug, telling her I loved her and goodbye, for her to get home safe, or be safe,” Sami told Inside Edition.

I guess it is assumed she means the primary party site? No one ever spoke of a different place, did they? She just says when SHE was leaving, but she does not clarify from where, so I always assumed it just means at the vehicles, or one of those big clumps of partygoers, like we have seen photos of?

 

[Beekarina]

(This is giving me a headache!)

 

[WillenFan21]

<modsnip>
Reviewing a few facts.

1. Based on the FB video authorized by the mods of the nighttime drive from the "party site" to the beach, it takes about 6-7 minutes to drive from the "party site" to the beach off which Kiely was found

[Added citations: Facebook video showing the drive from the "party site" to the beach at night was specifically approved by a moderator here: Found Deceased - CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #6 - it's post #775.
Screen shot approx 17:53 in the video she begins to drive from the "party site"
Screen shot approx 24:50 into the video she stops on the beach (note she's not all the way to the water)
Elapsed time of the drive = approximately 7 minutes]

Also note that at approximately the place in the video of the second screen shot, the driver says she can see the water even though it's dark.]

2. The last ping from Kiely's phone at 12:33 am was within 50 feet of where she was found: Mystery over how SUV of missing teen Kiely Rodni ended up in a reservoir

3. [Added note: I deduce from facts #1 and #2 that] Kiely would have had to leave the party by 12:26 or 12:27 to get to the reservoir by 12:33 am, and that's assuming there were zero obstacles in her path e.g., other cars trying to leave the party on super narrow roads. [Note to mods: this is simple math. Do you seriously want me to post to an internet page doing basic subtraction or is this sufficient?]

In addition to other facts not computing, the math does not compute my friends.

New edit: Now let's add another fact. To be clear for any moderator who may not have seen the prior threads, the vimeo video cited here was specifically approved by a mod further up the threads:

(PI Steve Fischer video)

Note based on the night video and my own drive out to the site, the PI is not actually at the party site - and I believe he says this in the video and points off in that direction. He is at the fork in the road that our videographer made her first turn in the night video. It takes him about 4.25 minutes to get from that fork to 89 (video 1:04 to 5:20) but it took our nighttime videographer about 3.5 minutes to get from the party site to the fork (stopping briefly at 21:30 in her video). If we add those together, it takes about 7.25 minutes to get from the "party site" onto 89. That assumes no cars slowing someone down on the route.

All due respect there is a lot you aren't taking into consideration here. If Kiely's phone died after the call with Sami at 12:36 that'd be why the last ping was at 12:33 because from my understanding if the phone dies it's not going to ping anymore and that means there is only a 3 min time frame there and a phone call is gonna make that phone die faster. My guess is that the party moved near the water after that call to Sami or she went with someone near the water which is why Sami said she could hear people in the background. No one knows where Kiley was at that time she made the phone call and I'm guessing because she was drunk she forgot Sami had already left. Or it could just be that her phone pinged off the tower closest to the water.

 

[WillenFan21]

My hypothesis is that she may have relocated to the beach while there was enough light to make the drive quite doable.

If she parked near the water for any length of time, she may have gotten stuck. In trying to rock out, perhaps she hit the gas, broke free and landed tragically in the reservoir.

JMO

That's my thought is that the party moved closer to the water. <modsnip> I'm hoping LE will release more info soon.

 

[Beekarina]

All due respect there is a lot you aren't taking into consideration here. If Kiely's phone died after the call with Sami at 12:36 that'd be why the last ping was at 12:33 because from my understanding if the phone dies it's not going to ping anymore and that means there is only a 3 min time frame there and a phone call is gonna make that phone die faster. My guess is that the party moved near the water after that call to Sami or she went with someone near the water which is why Sami said she could hear people in the background. No one knows where Kiley was at that time she made the phone call and I'm guessing because she was drunk she forgot Sami had already left. Or it could just be that her phone pinged off the tower closest to the water.

We have already gone there. None of us really know?

Tons of discussion on the types of shut downs a phone can do and when/how it would ping, as well if you have time to scroll back. I would link, but it is pages back in the last # thread.

Edited to add: personally, that's what I think happened.

 

[WillenFan21]

Also I would take anything that Sami says with a huge grain of salt not becuase I think she is guilty of anything but because she was also probably drunk and could have the times wrong.