Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #9

[Laughing]

To me that's close, but not what is in my minds eye. They used to be called "wife-beaters", have been around for decades, and are thin & ribbed.

A "wife-beater"...is an old fashion, sleeveless undershirt... The "wife-beater" shirt isn't some nouveau tank top. It's the ribbed undershirt once worn only by granddads and Stanley Kowalski in A Street Car Named Desire.

What is a less controversial name for the clothing item known as a "wife-beater" in the United States?

In the United States, a white sleeveless shirt is often referred to as a "wife-beater". Typically I try to avoid using "wife-beater" due to its negative connotation. I've tried using a few different

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In my family, this is known as an A-shirt, shaped more like an A than a T-shirt. The above picture is NOT my family, although I am certain those gentleman are very nice & good sports about have an underwear pic all over the Internet.

I wear them as a camisole in cool weather and under itchy sweaters!

Possible TMI: Covers your tummy and vertical C-section scar when wearing low-waisted jeans & a top that might ride up.

jmhexperience ymmv lrr

 

[Ixchel13]

The Sun is having a busy day. I also do not find them not the best source. I know they're an approved source, but I think at times the style of writing can be confusing.

Take this for example:

They have been criticized for interviewing an alleged witness, named Nick, who appeared to describe seeing Kiely with a boy in a "black San Francisco [Giants] ball cap, facing forwards."

Nick never specifically said it was a Giants cap. We may have collectively inferred that it was, but I caught myself on that point as well. I'm not a journalist, just a person following along. If someone from LE interviewed Nick, and has tapes of the encounter, they know this, of course. But The Sun does not, and they should not fill in the gaps as fact.

Divers who found missing teen's body break silence on 'murder conspiracies'

THE volunteer dive team who found missing teen Kiely Rodni in her submerged car still feels her death is “suspicious” but does not believe her boyfriend was involved. Kiely, 16, was dis…

www.the-sun.com

Glad you brought the hat up. Nick RA DID say that and afterwards social media AND here on WS posted pics of both Jagger and his friend Nate wearing Giants caps facing forwards. will search for and post links because they are right here somewhere. OR....
did Nick RA somehow see photos of Jagger before awp interview% its like which came first, chicken or egg so I like to keep options open as who is telling the truth, they dont call it fake news fer nothing.

 

[SteveP]

<modsnip - snarky> Bro tanks are not the same thing as what is commonly called a wife-beater, or sleeveless undershirt. It is not ribbed. It is a looser fitting tank top, that is very popular with California guys, apparently. JMO

Bro Tanks vs Tank Tops

The stupidest fight my boyfriend and I ever had was over a sleeveless shirt. Well, okay. It was more of a mild disagreement than a fight, but it was still ridiculous. It all started when

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[evilwise]

Because inquiring minds want to know, but apparently not badly enough to Google it, I took one for the team and did the dirty work. Bro tanks are not the same thing as what is commonly called a wife-beater, or sleeveless undershirt. It is not ribbed. It is a looser fitting tank top, that is very popular with California guys, apparently. JMO

Bro Tanks vs Tank Tops

The stupidest fight my boyfriend and I ever had was over a sleeveless shirt. Well, okay. It was more of a mild disagreement than a fight, but it was still ridiculous. It all started when

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Really, what the trend is in men's pull over shirts right now is a wider crew neckline that falls below the collar bone and extra soft high thread count cotton-poly blend fabric. Both so-called "hipster tees" and "bro tanks" are this style. Bros are just more likely to have developed upper arms than hipsters.

 

[Ixchel13]

Also, in case it was a Giants hat, a search for black San Francisco hat. See? Many styles, not all the same as the one JW is often shown wearing. So, really, who knows? View attachment 367962

 

[Teche]

Agreed. I come to the table with huge bias though - 22 years of active duty military service. I would have been crucified if I discussed with the press or social media the business of the air force, the activities that happened on an air force base, or events that happened during the course of my air force duties. ESPECIALLY if it involved a missing person/possible murder investigation. My career would have been over. Full stop.

I know civilian companies may not be *that* radical and don't expect their employees to have that level of discipline, but even in a civilian company this kind of thing wouldn't be tolerated with a smile. For now, the actual name of the RA company is not out there and we haven't heard from Nick since. I suspect the company may have had a word with him about his social media activities. IMO

Thank you for your service and sacrifice.

 

[RedHaus]

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Nah... this is the one I initially found on Google... a white bro tank top on the guy at Nick the RA guy's service stop.

And my question to the group, which no one I think has quite answered is, wouldn't a young man (e.g. 20/30's) wear this?

"Bro" tank top - Google Shopping

 

[Ixchel13]

Why would you rule out anything unless LE specifically said so? I'm not a prof detective, but aren't we supposed to not have tunnel-vision and be open to all scenarios including homicide? I'm not immediately dismissing Nick's account until LE confirms whether it's verified or not.

The "SF" caps are all mostly San Francisco Giants caps, let's be honest. The thing is, in NorCal, every other guy and gal has one. But it is a Giants hat.

what if ruling out something is part of your scenario%

 

[ItalyReader]

BBM that is not what she said. No one thinks that. Maybe you perceive it that way.
About this Nick RA thing, I dont think one single poster on here thinks he didnt get a service call. It was real. No one would be that idiotic to report to LE they had a service call that they could not back up. The questions are, Who were the clients, and when did he service them% He says he cannot remember the date, but we know, we all know, that his company has that info!
With this guy, We dont know who and we dont know when, and that just makes any amateur or REAL detective wonder, why% I honestly think Nick RA was set up, who knows if he knew this thing would mushroom on SM like it did.

Agree with all just not sure what you mean by “set up”?
Who would have set him up and why?
Or do you mean AWP taking advantage of the opportunity?

 

[Ixchel13]

Nah... this is the one I initially found on Google... a white bro tank top on the guy at Nick the RA guy's service stop.

And my question to the group, which no one I think has quite answered is, wouldn't a young man (e.g. 20/30's) wear this?

"Bro" tank top - Google Shopping

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No, they would not, I mean obviously someone is wearing them, but if you are talking about someone who doesnt want to be made fun of, no. Bro hasnt been a thing for quite some time, neither is brah, it is BRUH now.

 

[Ixchel13]

Agree with all just not sure what you mean by “set up”?
Who would have set him up and why?
Or do you mean AWP taking advantage of the opportunity?

yes.

 

[Ixchel13]

Bro being printed on the shirt has taken on a life of its own. Wouldnt he have said that the guy had on a shirt that said, BRO%

LE has stated they had a detailed interview with Jagger. So, they did not just confirm he was somewhere else, they dug into everything! The state of their relationship currently, common friends, drug and alcohol use, their breakup, their trips, and whatever else they could possibly think of.
Because, they had a guy who thought he saw Kiely with someone he described as exactly like Jagger. Jagger was firmly cleared.

Now, if Nick RA was saying he was possibly the last one to see Kiely alive with her ex BF.
can you imagine the interview he got too% They would have to clear him.
*hey, I am the last guy who has seen a missing girl and her BF.* Then, he was firmly cleared. Both Jagger and Nick RA were raked over the coals, IMO, before they were cleared!

Jagger could have a case for defamation, Amber Heard did not mention Johnnys name either. So yeah, I agree, Nicks case may not be over like people are saying..Just a theory, MOO, MHOO, but if Jagger would try to sue Nick RA and awp, Nick would have to prove
he was not coerced into describing Jagger and fudging on not knowing the day, but that
he really could not recall. I guess he might have to dust off the ol *I do not recall* button

and what is that thing called when you have no peace of mind because people are threatening to kill you%

Just theorizing and keeping my options open as advised.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Bro being printed on the shirt has taken on a life of its own. Wouldnt he have said that the guy had on a shirt that said, BRO%

LE has stated they had a detailed interview with Jagger. So, they did not just confirm he was somewhere else, they dug into everything! The state of their relationship currently, common friends, drug and alcohol use, their breakup, their trips, and whatever else they could possibly think of.
Because, they had a guy who thought he saw Kiely with someone he described as exactly like Jagger. Jagger was firmly cleared.

Now, if Nick RA was saying he was possibly the last one to see Kiely alive with her ex BF.
can you imagine the interview he got too% They would have to clear him.
*hey, I am the last guy who has seen a missing girl and her BF.* Then, he was firmly cleared. Both Jagger and Nick RA were raked over the coals, IMO, before they were cleared!

Jagger could have a case for defamation, Amber Heard did not mention Johnnys name either. So yeah, I agree, Nicks case may not be over like people are saying..Just a theory, MOO, MHOO, but if Jagger would try to sue Nick RA and awp, Nick would have to prove
he was not coerced into describing Jagger and fudging on not knowing the day, but that
he really could not recall. I guess he might have to dust off the ol *I do not recall* button

and what is that thing called when you have no peace of mind because people are threatening to kill you%

Just theorizing and keeping my options open as advised.

I know we are focused on the AWP video here because that's the only one we can link. But members of the AWP team have done numerous, numerous interviews about this case on other YT channels and go into much more detail about the identification of the male individual by RA Nick.

When viewing some of those videos I found myself thinking of the Amber Heard case, too, strangely enough, and that the jury found it obvious who Amber was referring to in her article. IMO

 

[Ixchel13]

I know we are focused on the AWP video here because that's the only one we can link. But members of the AWP team have done numerous, numerous interviews about this case on other YT channels and go into much more detail about the identification of the male individual by RA Nick.

When viewing some of those videos I found myself thinking of the Amber Heard case, too, strangely enough, and that the jury found it obvious who Amber was referring to in her article. IMO

wanted to add, it is one thing to theorize like we do, but when you get LE involved
with a SM podcast its another ball game. LE could take that more seriously than expected.

 

[CharlestonGal]

wanted to add, it is one thing to theorize like we do, but when you get LE involved
with a SM podcast its another ball game. LE could take that more seriously than expected.

It seems to be calming down on SM, finally. Hopefully Kiely's friends and family will have some peace and quiet for a while. Before it all kicks up again when the autopsy and investigation documents are released. IMO

 

[Foxone1]

Sadly, AWP has gotten a lot more attention with this case, I know they work off donations, so I guess making Kiely's recovery Murder or Accident? in their YouTube video was much needed for donations. In my opinion

 

[Wallendo]

Not sure about the discretion of parent or guardian but many records in CA end up being released for the public to see even in accident situations. I'll have to look into this more to get a more accurate answer.

According to this website:

Vital Records Obtaining Certified Copies of Death Records

www.cdph.ca.gov

"The California Department of Public Health – Vital Records (CDPH-VR) maintains a permanent, public record of every death that has occurred in California since July 1905.

Certified death records are $24 per copy"


I also found this:

"The Deceased Child Victims’ Protection and Privacy Act is not intended to limit access to reports by law enforcement agents, prosecutors, defendants or civil litigants under state and federal discovery laws, but it will deny access to reporters and the general public if the child’s parents choose."

source: California law allows parents to seal child autopsy reports - The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press

A quote from the above link.

The new law only applies to cases in which a person has been convicted and sentenced for committing a criminal act resulting in the death of a child. The law does not apply if the victim was in foster care or was a dependent of the juvenile court at the time of death. Records also cannot be sealed if abuse or neglect was determined to be the cause of death.

An amendment to the law required that a request to seal reports could only be made by a family member who had no involvement in the child’s death. The law also states that records can become public if they are ever entered as evidence in a trial.

According to this, it is unlikely that KR's records would be unavailable. If no one is convicted of causing her death, this law does not apply. If someone is tried, and these records are used at trial, the records can become public. The only way I can see from my layman's perspective that these records would remain private is if someone is arrested and takes a plea deal with no trial.

 

[AggieLou]

Bro being printed on the shirt has taken on a life of its own. Wouldnt he have said that the guy had on a shirt that said, BRO%

LE has stated they had a detailed interview with Jagger. So, they did not just confirm he was somewhere else, they dug into everything! The state of their relationship currently, common friends, drug and alcohol use, their breakup, their trips, and whatever else they could possibly think of.
Because, they had a guy who thought he saw Kiely with someone he described as exactly like Jagger. Jagger was firmly cleared.

Now, if Nick RA was saying he was possibly the last one to see Kiely alive with her ex BF.
can you imagine the interview he got too% They would have to clear him.
*hey, I am the last guy who has seen a missing girl and her BF.* Then, he was firmly cleared. Both Jagger and Nick RA were raked over the coals, IMO, before they were cleared!

Jagger could have a case for defamation, Amber Heard did not mention Johnnys name either. So yeah, I agree, Nicks case may not be over like people are saying..Just a theory, MOO, MHOO, but if Jagger would try to sue Nick RA and awp, Nick would have to prove
he was not coerced into describing Jagger and fudging on not knowing the day, but that
he really could not recall. I guess he might have to dust off the ol *I do not recall* button

and what is that thing called when you have no peace of mind because people are threatening to kill you%

Just theorizing and keeping my options open as advised.

Please link where it has come directly from LE that JW was "firmly cleared". Or anyone has been cleared. A call to NCSO can clear that up. Not because a tabloid article stated so, when said tabloid has numerous times in the past had to admit to false statements and misinformation. Maybe I missed a verbal or written press release directly from NCSO. I apologize if I have. It's hard to keep up when working and all other obligations in life.

 

[tayaway]

Please link where it has come directly from LE that JW was "firmly cleared". Or anyone has been cleared. A call to NCSO can clear that up. Not because a tabloid article stated so, when said tabloid has numerous times in the past had to admit to false statements and misinformation. Maybe I missed a verbal or written press release directly from NCSO. I apologize if I have. It's hard to keep up when working and all other obligations in life.

There's been no official statement that they cleared JW - just the US Sun article claiming he was cleared early on (before AWP found K), and PMs from an unverified NCSO account (which can't be linked here, since they're SM based). The most recent Reno Gazette Journal article on the case does not make any mention of JW or whether LE have cleared him.

[edit: link correction]

 

[shushu]

Isn't it fair to assume that nobody is a suspect since this case is currently being handled by the CHP? They investigate traffic related deaths.