CA CA - Lydia "Dia" Abrams, 65, Idyllwild, 6 Jun 2020 #2

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Unexpected arrival at memorial service for Jodi Newkirk near Idyllwild | cbs8.com
Author: David Gotfredson (Investigative Producer)
Published: 6:59 PM PST January 19, 2022 Updated: 6:59 PM PST January 19, 2022


Harper’s arrival at Newkirk’s memorial service – at Living Free Animal Sanctuary in Mountain Center – was surprising, awkward, and upsetting to some in attendance.

Harper strolled into the outdoor venue, coming face to face with friends and family of the deceased.

CBS 8 was in attendance at the invitation of Newkirk’s sister, Kelly Berkowitz, who drove up in a car just after Harper arrived. She was visibly shaken when she noticed Harper was nearby.

“My reaction to seeing Keith Harper was a panic attack. I kind of lost my mind there for a minute. I just couldn't believe it. I was stunned,” Berkowitz told CBS 8.

Harper already had been warned not to show up at the service, according to a family member who said they told him about a week earlier that he was not welcome.

Oh my! If this weren't such a serious case with muliple lives lost (or taken, IMO), I would compare it to a soap opera. KH certainly is an "interesting" character. Such gall to show up there! I hope police were there as well and watching.
 
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Unexpected arrival at memorial service for Jodi Newkirk near Idyllwild | cbs8.com
Author: David Gotfredson (Investigative Producer)
Published: 6:59 PM PST January 19, 2022 Updated: 6:59 PM PST January 19, 2022


Harper’s arrival at Newkirk’s memorial service – at Living Free Animal Sanctuary in Mountain Center – was surprising, awkward, and upsetting to some in attendance.

Harper strolled into the outdoor venue, coming face to face with friends and family of the deceased.

CBS 8 was in attendance at the invitation of Newkirk’s sister, Kelly Berkowitz, who drove up in a car just after Harper arrived. She was visibly shaken when she noticed Harper was nearby.

“My reaction to seeing Keith Harper was a panic attack. I kind of lost my mind there for a minute. I just couldn't believe it. I was stunned,” Berkowitz told CBS 8.

Harper already had been warned not to show up at the service, according to a family member who said they told him about a week earlier that he was not welcome.
How disrespectful! Who does that? SMH
 
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How disrespectful! Who does that? SMH
A psychopath, that’s who. I don’t doubt he is knee deep in both cases. I hope LE is gathering the evidence they need to make an arrest for once and for all.
 
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MOO So ... employee dies on the property while they're out and about. Fk' em – I got work to do?

Man ... so many folks seem certain KH did the deed. Twice, now.

I try to imagine what I'd do in his situation. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't. For me, I'd go to the service (but yes, leave if the organizers voiced a strong objection). If innocent, I'm showing my respect to her. I'd likely feel I owe her that (especially if some of the backstory suggestions are true). I, too, would have lost someone and I too would deserve the opportunity to grieve; to give the family an opportunity to let me grieve; weather the (understandable) storm and accept the apologies later, hopefully with understanding. To not try would feel disrespectful to Jodi.

If guilty, I guess I'd likely not give a fk and would use my appearance calculatingly.

Show up or not show up ... I doubt anyone changed their opinion over him with that.

"Harper strolled into the outdoor venue ..."
Nice objective reporting. Fk man ... already being convicted in the court of public opinion. Clinton must be bursting with glee.

Hopefully the truth of it all comes out sooner than later. And yes – I'm fully prepared to eat my words if this all turns up against him. Until then ...
 
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MOO So ... employee dies on the property while they're out and about. Fk' em – I got work to do?

Man ... so many folks seem certain KH did the deed. Twice, now.

I try to imagine what I'd do in his situation. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't. For me, I'd go to the service (but yes, leave if the organizers voiced a strong objection). If innocent, I'm showing my respect to her. I'd likely feel I owe her that (especially if some of the backstory suggestions are true). I, too, would have lost someone and I too would deserve the opportunity to grieve; to give the family an opportunity to let me grieve; weather the (understandable) storm and accept the apologies later, hopefully with understanding. To not try would feel disrespectful to Jodi.

If guilty, I guess I'd likely not give a fk and would use my appearance calculatingly.

Show up or not show up ... I doubt anyone changed their opinion over him with that.

"Harper strolled into the outdoor venue ..."
Nice objective reporting. Fk man ... already being convicted in the court of public opinion. Clinton must be bursting with glee.

Hopefully the truth of it all comes out sooner than later. And yes – I'm fully prepared to eat my words if this all turns up against him. Until then ...

I concur..
 
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It was probably very upsetting for Jodi's children, and her sister, to have to see this man there. He's a possible suspect in the death of their mother. He was asked specifically not to show up there at an emotional gathering to honor Jodi. MOO, he could've just sent flowers, or even offered to pay for some of the funeral expenses if he wanted to show respect, or appear innocent and caring. What must her family think? I'm still haunted by that statement KH made about missing Jodi before she died.

Unexpected arrival at memorial service for Jodi Newkirk near Idyllwild | cbs8.com
Harper already had been warned not to show up at the service, according to a family member who said they told him about a week earlier that he was not welcome. BBM
 
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It was probably very upsetting for Jodi's children, and her sister, to have to see this man there. He's a possible suspect in the death of their mother. He was asked specifically not to show up there at an emotional gathering to honor Jodi. MOO, he could've just sent flowers, or even offered to pay for some of the funeral expenses if he wanted to show respect, or appear innocent and caring. What must her family think? I'm still haunted by that statement KH made about missing Jodi before she died.

Unexpected arrival at memorial service for Jodi Newkirk near Idyllwild | cbs8.com
Harper already had been warned not to show up at the service, according to a family member who said they told him about a week earlier that he was not welcome. BBM
I agree. Showing respect to Jodi would have been to honor her family's request that he not attend her memorial service. Jodi, unfortunately, was beyond caring, but her family, including her children, asked that he not come. IDK if KH had anything to do with Jodi's death, or with Dia's disappearance, but he didn't do himself any favors in the court of public opinion by ignoring her family's request. It might have been different, had the family not asked him to not go, but they did. It makes him look selfish and entitled, and like a world-class jerk. IMO
 
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Journal entry and audio recording shed light on woman’s death at ranch near Idyllwild | cbs8.com
Jodi wrote about a weird comment texted to her-- "I'm really feeling very strange about the "always going to miss me comment" in the text a few days ago. What the hell was that about and you never did elaborate. Anyhow, I don't like the way that sounds, not a bit, it's weird.
It's chilling too. Jodi was very uncomfortable with that statement KH made implying she wasn't going to be around. I believe both women felt a sense of foreboding. Someone was perhaps gas lighting them. The only reason I bring it up now is that both women are gone and a common denominator is KH. He must be under investigation by LE. Yet. he seems comfortable to force his presence at Jodi's Memorial. Makes me wonder how much pressure he feels from LE... maybe not enough.
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Woman dies at Bonita Vista Ranch near Idyllwild | cbs8.com
In a series of text messages with News 8, Harper indicated he received information that one of Abrams’ workers “escorted her off the ranch into the hands of those who execute[d] her” and “they then waited [sic] her down and put her in the bottom of Lake Hemet.”
Lydia "Dia" Abrams deserves Justice. She was a victim of foul play and LE should be on this 24/7. Before she mysteriously disappeared, she changed her Trust naming new Trustees KH and DF, new people in her life really, and then she was gone two weeks later. She didn't change her paperwork right after the last Probate hearing with her children. The timing is so suspicious. I hope LE is collecting evidence. Please. I've been waiting for them to make their move for quite some time.
 
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okay - JMO - but it sounds like KH never got these letters. In a couple of them she says she is "venting". Otherwise - if she had sent them to him - why are the letters still in her possession?? They'd be in his.... I believe they are Jodi's vent letters.

I'm glad you brought this up. There's a lot of weight being given to Jodi's writings with some seeming to taking them as fact, when they are simply "words". They may suggest her varying state of mind, but that's it at most. Collaborating evidence, should it be discovered, will qualify all that of course.
 
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I would love to know what KH told Jodi about Dia. Why did she believe Dia would be coming back? Did she think Dia was voluntarily missing?

But I hope from the bottom & all of my heart that you realize that I truly have you & yours, all of your animals, friends & home, possessions, & even Harper’s best interest at heart. ... And I know so far it has been a challenge to get the right people & get moving in the direction of getting out of the red & maybe Harper can take better care of himself so he can be around here for you when you come home! And I do honestly think you will be coming home!! I hope you like me!!

Letters: Woman who died on ranch near Idyllwild in relationship with boss | cbs8.com
 
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Letters: Woman who died on ranch near Idyllwild in relationship with boss Jodi Newkirk wrote several letters to Keith Harper during her 4 months at the ranch.
All my own thoughts and MOO. Sorry, it's so long.
I agree @Niner and @sleuther007 that Jodi wrote some letters to vent. She wrote like she was journaling. Trying to process her options. The letters can't be taken as "evidence"; however, her vent letters help define the situation, which seems increasingly toxic after only four months. She did mention leaving, so it might explain KH's statement of missing her when she's gone.

KH was the employer, the boss, the landlord, and it appears he led Jodi to believe they were in some kind of involved emotional relationship. Obvious to me, he played on her emotions, and her insecurities, and used other "girls" to keep her unbalanced. Tied her employment security to his libido. Sounds like he was threatening to hire another girl. She says he's a computer dog and like a "gig0l0" favoring women with his attentions. Yuck, the man is an old dude RSO, but JMO here.

Reading her vent letters made me feel incredibly sad for her. I'd say she was not in a stable mental state in Sept. 2021. She needed help getting her life back in order and she put her trust in the wrong person. She sounded so willing to work hard, and seemed to jump at the chance to believe there was hope. As @jash questioned, why did she believe some kind of falsehoods about Dia still being alive? What did KH tell Jodi because he's now saying Dia's in Lake Hemet?

Jodi sounded so grateful at first believing someone was going to give her a chance. She was led astray by promises to help her have a future, get her horse, make money, rent a place and get some nights to herself, whatever... all lies she was finding out according to her detailed vent letters.

MOO, bet it was obvious four months ago, that this woman was struggling, and was easy to manipulate. KH took advantage of Jodi as an easy mark to use her by getting involved in a relationship with her. His MO using or taking advantage of women? Then, he played games on her head. He was never satisfied with her work, kept her off balance, the other "girls", even the way of being conveniently overheard knocking her. She mentions he was gone for awhile. Did he leave her to care for the ranch? She hints that he used up all her time, nights she needed for herself. In Sept. 2021, Jodi was in a weak point in her life. I'd guess he did a number on her and kept her basically trapped going no where while he used her. She wasn't just working with the horses, but she mentions making beds and cleaning, spending nights at the ranch. At this point, I don't know if KH caused Jodi's death, but I absolutely think he isn't the nice person he tries to portray.
 
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Letters: Woman who died on ranch near Idyllwild in relationship with boss
Jodi Newkirk wrote several letters to Keith Harper during her 4 months at the ranch.

Harper, I am so dumbfounded…So I was already inside when you answered the phone. I’m assuming it was Jen. I’m almost positive I heard you say hi Jen. But I’m totally completely positive without a doubt that I heard you say “All she does is follow me around all day.” I am not one to be real sensitive usually but this is wow. I can’t begin to express how hurt I am! Even if there was not a personal relationship of sorts between us, I still am so unspeakably devastated. I can’t even talk to you right now. I honestly don’t know what to do as I’m pretty much stuck here again. And to know this is a b_tch I begged you for!! How dare she!! What the hell did I do to deserve this??

Probably because I feel like you’re a computer dog like a high class gigilo (sp?). Anyhow you really do sleep with as many females as you can & you tell all girls what they want to hear & you tell them all basically the same thing.

What we had wasn’t really all that to you probably cause you have no idea what you had & you never will. No I’m no Anna or Patricia but you know what? I may not be perfect but I am true, honest, loyal, & sincere. I would have killed, died, given my right arm for you. Even if you don’t deserve it
 
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What we had wasn’t really all that to you probably cause you have no idea what you had & you never will. No I’m no Anna or Patricia but you know what? I may not be perfect but I am true, honest, loyal, & sincere. I would have killed, died, given my right arm for you. Even if you don’t deserve it

Wow - I don't think she was being literal when she wrote she would have killed for KH but it does make me think he has more charisma and charm than I gave him credit for. Perhaps even enough to coerce s0meone into helping him get rid of "problems" or at least help with a cover up to protect him. Aside from DF, were there any other ladies regularly on the ranch while Dia was living there?
 
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I truly believe he kept her off balance and basically confused about the working arrangements, and their emotional relationship. Seems he didn't care a bit about what she wanted.

Harper,
We need to figure out what my hours will be & how much my pay is. We can deduct the rent off the top. Then figure recent [sic] how many hours a day I’ve been working & the days. Because it seems I have been here at least 6 days a week. And the time you were gone. I’m feeling extremely & I mean extremely frustrated by everything & not being able to have any kind of outside activities is getting me seriously burnt out. Not only that but I need to be able to be home at least 3 nights a week & I would actually prefer more. I feel like you don’t really appreciate me like you could & you[‘re] constantly trying to hire another person (girl)....

Letters: Woman who died on ranch near Idyllwild in relationship with boss | cbs8.com
 
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I have a difficult time believing that KH has not online dated in years. Dia was online dating and I believe that is how she met KH. There are other women that have come forward that have connections to online dating with KH...
Dia, Jodi, and there's a Jen, an Anna, a Patricia, and probably more letting this man into their lives, too. [B]@Sun Spot[/B], you knew Dia... she didn't sound that trusting or gullible. Somehow, KH started running the ranch and stuck around. He must have a convincing way about him. Is it possible he actually talked her into signing him as Trustee?

What's his charm and attraction? I mean he really gets around for a 72 yr. old man. Even now, still trying to get over losing his fiancé and take care of her estate, he manages to have other "girls"? This thing with Jodi was only over a four month period. Jodi was 46. She said he tells all the girls the same thing. Are they desperate to be sweet-talked or something? In MOO, her letters show how Jodi was unraveling from all KH's misleading. Seems he wasn't coming through with anything he promised her. At one point she was willing to give her right arm? I can't understand these women (girls) finding KH sincere or that attractive. They must think he has lots of money or something. Please someone explain his magical charisma.
 
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Adding to my post ^^^ my own thoughts and MOO.
Or does he just zero in on women at a weak point in their lives which makes them easy to manipulate with a little bit of love-bombing and some lies? Think about what he's managed to pull off. He's running the ranch. Dia's been missing 1 1/2 yrs now.
 
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Adding to my post ^^^ my own thoughts and MOO.
Or does he just zero in on women at a weak point in their lives which makes them easy to manipulate with a little bit of love-bombing and some lies? Think about what he's managed to pull off. He's running the ranch. Dia's been missing 1 1/2 yrs now.
Yes. He does just zero in. He's a predator, IMO. A predator who takes what he can from people, good people, who don't see him coming. I think KH took advantage of Jodi's delicate self-respect. He baited her with her own baggage, and trapped her like a spider, in a web. He pretended to need her: her help with the ranch, with the animals, with the houses, the horses, with his loss. His loneliness. He made sure to check all her boxes: horse, check. House, check. Paycheck, check. A job, peace and quiet, no questions asked, no background check. Check. Of course she went for it. He offered her a chance to change her life, a beautiful break in a hard and sometimes hostile world.

It was too good to be true. She had to know that. She tried to set boundaries, with her hours, with their relationship. She was literally trying to define them in her letters. I don't think KH has much respect for boundaries. He needs too much. If she she wasn't up for it, well. He had other women. Grateful women, too, and other houses, other work, other things to do in other states. He didn't need her. She wasn't enough anyway. Look at her mistakes. KH is missing her before she is gone. He is scaring her with text messages, teasing her with other women, and playing with her feelings. He is done with her. Why?

Jodi didn't want to take Dia's place, but KH needed someone in it. When it turned out Jodi wasn't Dia, wasn't going to take all of his responsibility on herself, and now she wants a relationship? When he is treating her this way? And what changed, that he would go for her like that? Did she reject him? IDK.

MOO. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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Of course she went for it. He offered her a chance to change her life, a beautiful break in a hard and sometimes hostile world..... It was too good to be true. She had to know that. She tried to set boundaries, with her hours, with their relationship. She was literally trying to define them in her letters.
Great post, @coastal. I got a lot out of your post. It's easy to see how vulnerable Jodi was and her state of mind when along came a spider. Figuring out what happened to Dia and now Jodi seems to be connected to the spider.

Just my own thoughts I'd like to share that I've put together from living in a "hostile world" where trusting is a dangerous endeavor and I had to learn how to spot predators. I'll use the word "mark" here to define the person being preyed upon by a con artist or predator.

The mark usually needs to believe they're going to profit or reap some rewards or benefits (monetary , romantic, or help of some kind type rewards) for a con artist to get into their lives and play their game on the mark. I had been thinking the same thing... he's a predator always after some mark. This is important and how they keep you hooked for longer until you're trapped. The trick is to let the mark think they're able to set boundaries and control any of it. The mark will voice their concerns and state their firm boundaries thinking they're going to see change. The predator will keep the mark confused by intermittent rewards of love bombing or acting like they're complying while doing what they darn well please. It's an up and down tactic, and the mark is kept off balance. Believing they can set boundaries is what keeps them sticking around longer than they should. (If it's a monetary con, then the mark might be led to falsely believe they can place precautionary safety boundaries in place before the deal takes place.)
 
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