Found Deceased CA - Madyson Middleton, 8, Santa Cruz, 26 July 2015 - #2 *Arrest*

[gngr~snap]

I found his IG account to be just plain eerie. Him posting photos of the sky between builings - night time photos at the pier, but then he had some videos of skate board tricks. Maybe it's just me. If I had seen his IG prior to having knowledge of what he did, I might have viewed it differently.
Moo

 

[epiphany]

I don't want him to be funny and I don't want him to be clever. I guess that's part of the big picture though. He was so normal and got along well with everyone even though he was terrible and dead inside.

This (below) was not normal imo esp that AJG was not with a larger mixed-age group (incl his peers) when he was with Maddy. He was winning her trust, in a sense grooming her. He was alone with her. It's a red flag:

Male Teen: "I'd seen them together literally dozens of times, behind the building, playing, having a good time..."

This was a longer interview of what appeared to be an older male teen (face not shown) that I saw this morning. It's no longer on the site.

In the longer version, the teen adds, and I'm paraphrasing this piece now: the only thing that was a little odd was the
difference in their ages

Yup

He also said that Maddy appeared very happy and that AJG was not aggressive during those times he saw them playing together behind the building.

 

[blue22]

I have a 16 year old nephew. I monitor his accounts (parents are so NOT tech savvy, lol) and also look at all his friend's accounts. His stuff looks like typical, emo teenage stuff. I see it all the time on teenagers instagrams and social media. That's what is so horrific of it all, his posts are so normal for his age and generation. Nothing that would EVER make me think he was violent or deviant. Not before. Of course we look back now and create all kinds of threads that intertwine. But if I looked at that not knowing what we do now, I would not have thought this.

 

[Yvettea]

Forgive me if this has already been said. This is not about depression, not as we generally think of it. This is someone who wanted to see what it would be like to commit these criminal acts and watch as they searched for the victim. That was part of the thrill.

 

[gngr~snap]

Mark Klass will be discussing case on KUTV: @4pm (6pm EST)
Check out @PollyDad's Tweet: https://twitter.com/PollyDad/status/626466084359507968?s=09

Also:

Santa Cruz Sentinel fixed their site to work on mobile.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ge...ged-as-adult-in-brutal-homicide-of-8-year-old

 

[anansie]

Forgive me if this has already been said. This is not about depression, not as we generally think of it. This is someone who wanted to see what it would be like to commit these criminal acts and watch as they searched for the victim. That was part of the thrill.

I've been thinking : do psychopaths get depressed? Because when I read through his IG posts, he does appear like he could be depressed. The general mood of everything he posts is that it is a bit downbeat. There is no excitement. It all feels a bit flat and placid. I am not sure if I am confusing the mood of a psychopath with depression.

And if I try to Google, I get things like this https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...VzlTmEQAYzONJ1hSA&sig2=R-LPL9zI77nk7ZAnOE-Ddw where self proclaimed psychopaths say they do feel hopeless and depressed etc.

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[kristinaT]

marking my spot. Im going to go home tonight and hug my little girl. So sad. poor baby girl. :anguish:

 

[gngr~snap]

AJG -Charging document 7 pages
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186458-adrian-gonzalez-complaint-7-29-15.html#document

 

[T4Tide]

I keep trying to post a reply to a quote, but it keeps disappearing. Testing this post to see if it works without said quote.

And it did....weird.

 

[anansie]

I have a 16 year old nephew. I monitor his accounts (parents are so NOT tech savvy, lol) and also look at all his friend's accounts. His stuff looks like typical, emo teenage stuff. I see it all the time on teenagers instagrams and social media. That's what is so horrific of it all, his posts are so normal for his age and generation. Nothing that would EVER make me think he was violent or deviant. Not before. Of course we look back now and create all kinds of threads that intertwine. But if I looked at that not knowing what we do now, I would not have thought this.

I learned a lesson a while ago that it is not a good idea to allow my teen "private" access to any SM account. Long story short. I caught her breaking all the internet safety rules which school and I have been drumming into her head for a few years and it shocked me just how much she revealed of herself and the family to some stranger she only just knew. And she knowingly did it too. She said things like "my mum says I must not tell you this because of privacy." After she did it. Only when that person became abusive to her and saying offensive things about her sister, spamming and harassing her account with loads of rude messages, that she finally learnt her lesson (I hope she did, anyway). We had that person (and his multiple accounts) blocked and disabled Google Hangouts. But now he knows her and her sister's full name and what town we live in, and even how we look (because she sent him photos), he could stalk her (or us) anytime online. And that was just a bored 10 year old boy she met on a gaming platform.

Kids aren't aware of the power of SM until it's too late. I used an analogy to explain it to my daughter : when you send your jpeg photos to someone you met online, it's akin to just walking out the front door of our house and handing a passerby photos of you and letting them keep them. Would you seriously do that in real life? Go out the front door and tell a random passerby your full name, give them copies of your photos to keep, etc.?

I have since then removed all personal passwords for her Windows profile and am signed into her email accounts all of the time so I can see what is being said. I felt sorry I had to do this. To deny her privacy on SM, but after all this I felt it was the only way. When she's 18, she can have her privacy back. It was also a lesson too for me that I can try and teach my kids so much, but it is up to them personally how much the lesson takes.

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[Steleheart]

I keep trying to post a reply to a quote, but it keeps disappearing. Testing this post to see if it works without said quote.

And it did....weird.

I think the quote was likely removed.

:blushing:

 

[Madeleine74]

Can we please not call an 8 yr old a "baby?" I mean I realize she is and always will be her mother's 'baby,' but she was a child. Most kids that age do not want to be thought of as "babies."

 

[blue22]

I learned a lesson a while ago that it is not a good idea to allow my teen "private" access to any SM account. Long story short. I caught her breaking all the internet safety rules which school and I have been drumming into her head for a few years and it shocked me just how much she revealed of herself and the family to some stranger she only just knew. And she knowingly did it too. She said things like "my mum says I must not tell you this because of privacy." After she did it. Only when that person became abusive to her and saying offensive things about her sister, spamming and harassing her account with loads of rude messages, that she finally learnt her lesson (I hope she did, anyway). We had that person (and his multiple accounts) blocked and disabled Google Hangouts. But now he knows her and her sister's full name and what town we live in, and even how we look (because she sent him photos), he could stalk her (or us) anytime online. And that was just a bored 10 year old boy she met on a gaming platform.

Kids aren't aware of the power of SM until it's too late. I used an analogy to explain it to my daughter : when you send your jpeg photos to someone you met online, it's akin to just walking out the front door of our house and handing a passerby photos of you and letting them keep them. Would you seriously do that in real life? Go out the front door and tell a random passerby your full name, give them copies of your photos to keep, etc.?

I have since then removed all personal passwords for her Windows profile and am signed into her email accounts all of the time so I can see what is being said. I felt sorry I had to do this. To deny her privacy on SM, but after all this I felt it was the only way. When she's 18, she can have her privacy back. It was also a lesson too for me that I can try and teach my kids so much, but it is up to them personally how much the lesson takes.

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You did the right thing and sound like a wonderful parent. The internet opens up a world that is really too much for young people.

 

[TweekTweak]

AJG -Charging document 7 pages
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186458-adrian-gonzalez-complaint-7-29-15.html#document

Oh my God. Poor Madyson went through so much suffering at the hands of a "big kid" she trusted. All of that in less than an hour. I've been quietly following this case since she went missing, and everything reminds me of Jenise Wright - another case of a little girl being brutalized by a teenage boy, almost exactly one year ago.

I planned on lighting some candles for Jenise when I go out to Bremerton on the third. I will light one more for little Maddy. Two sweet girls, living joyfully and playing outside...now dead, so young, so unfair.

 

[blue22]

Can we please not call an 8 yr old a "baby?" I mean I realize she is and always will be her mother's 'baby,' but she was a child. Most kids that age do not want to be thought of as "babies."

She was only on the world for 8 years and she was snuffed out by a monster. I see nothing inappropriate about calling her a "baby." These children are always someones baby, and I truly think people are just honoring that.

 

[human]

If you were looking at a resume of a kid, he woukd look good.

Volunteers at all kinds of activities. Plays the piano. Does yo yo tricks.

Good recommendations from adults. Polite, kind.

I wonder what his cognitive abilities are.

He doen't seem really bright.

 

[Madeleine74]

None of his suicidal thoughts will come into play in saving him from being convicted and receiving a life sentence. This is a slam dunk case. He knew right from wrong. He's guilty, he'll be sentenced to LWOP. He won't be free for many decades and likely never since his crime was so heinous and involved a child under the age of 14.

 

[T4Tide]

I think the quote was likely removed.

:blushing:

Ahhhh, ok.

Well, it's author should know that that wasn't what I meant at all!

 

[TweekTweak]

Can we please not call an 8 yr old a "baby?" I mean I realize she is and always will be her mother's 'baby,' but she was a child. Most kids that age do not want to be thought of as "babies."

Considering how young Madyson and all of these other kids are, they really are "babies" to us. These sentiments come from a place in our hearts that want to nurture and protect these little children rendered helpless by terrible people that rape, beat, and kill them. There is no offense meant. Just love.

 

[bluesneakers]

Can we please not call an 8 yr old a "baby?" I mean I realize she is and always will be her mother's 'baby,' but she was a child. Most kids that age do not want to be thought of as "babies."

I agree. Most eight-year-olds would hate it.